Author Topic: The King's Olympia Observations.. The truth! (Read 25825 times)

tbombz · « **Reply #75 on:** September 30, 2008, 03:17:55 PM »

Insulin does alot more than bloat and contribute to glycogen stores though.

Insulin = anti catabolic

Steroids = anabolic

Combine the two for real muscle growth..

Im just wondering how he thinks it ruins physiques.. Personally I think gh(igf) is responsible for the distended abdomens. The other issues with today's physiques are lack of striations, detail, conditioning... maybe insulin is the culprit behind that? I dont know. Thats why im asking King.

Noel Fuller · « **Reply #76 on:** September 30, 2008, 05:35:22 PM »

Its been around before 96 , I believe it all stated in 93, at the 95 Olympia I was with Achim and was asked to help with a "sick" bodybuilder on insulin.

polychronopolous · « **Reply #77 on:** September 30, 2008, 10:01:39 PM »

I dunno, to say his face has aged 10 years is a bit of a stretch...

He's an Eastern euro, and he probably lives fast, and smokes alot so I would imagine alot of people his age look older than they are based on that simple fact.

Polska_Sensation · « **Reply #78 on:** October 01, 2008, 08:48:52 AM »

King I know this is a positive board and all but there is a rumor that has been out there for a while. The rumor is that when you were an up-and-coming pro and when you were the next big thing by placing super high in you early shows that you used to go to nightclubs and take shitloads of high powere Ecstasy. Is this true??

P.S. This is a legit question, you should be honest

polychronopolous · « **Reply #79 on:** October 01, 2008, 08:55:10 AM »

Quote from: Polska_Sensation on October 01, 2008, 08:48:52 AM

King I know this is a positive board and all but there is a rumor that has been out there for a while. The rumor is that when you were an up-and-coming pro and when you were the next big thing by placing super high in you early shows that you used to go to nightclubs and take shitloads of high powere Ecstasy. Is this true??

P.S. This is a legit question, you should be honest

Mods, delete post.

King Kamali · « **Reply #80 on:** October 01, 2008, 09:21:17 AM »

Noel Fuller: I'm sure you are right but from my own personal experience, especially when I was working with Chad Nicholls it was not used in the offseason.. Just for loading before a show.. And don't forget, at that time Chad was also advising Ronnie, Nasser, Flex, Myself, Don Long, Tom Prince and I know for a fact that none of these men were on insulin until showtime.

polychronopolous: The mans face does looked aged and don't forget he is only 29.. He looks 40.. Just my opinion. You are correct in the fact that he is a smoker.. I saw it at the Europa a couple years ago.

Polska_Sensation: Ahhhhh, the good old days. The answer to your question is yes I partied like a rock star and had the time of my life. I could go down a list of the things I did and taking Ecstasy is at the bottom of that list. Threesoms, foursoms, orgies, 5 minute batroom stall relationships in the clubs, porn stars in Miami, etc... It was a wild time in my life and I survived. Nothing to hide here, it's all good.

d0nny2600 · « **Reply #81 on:** October 01, 2008, 09:25:31 AM »

Quote from: King Kamali on October 01, 2008, 09:21:17 AM

Noel Fuller: I'm sure you are right but from my own personal experience, especially when I was working with Chad Nicholls it was not used in the offseason.. Just for loading before a show.. And don't forget, at that time Chad was also advising Ronnie, Nasser, Flex, Myself, Don Long, Tom Prince and I know for a fact that none of these men were on insulin until showtime.

polychronopolous: The mans face does looked aged and don't forget he is only 29.. He looks 40.. Just my opinion. You are correct in the fact that he is a smoker.. I saw it at the Europa a couple years ago.

Polska_Sensation: Ahhhhh, the good old days. The answer to your question is yes I partied like a rock star and had the time of my life. I could go down a list of the things I did and taking Ecstasy is at the bottom of that list. Threesoms, foursoms, orgies, 5 minute batroom stall relationships in the clubs, porn stars in Miami, etc... It was a wild time in my life and I survived. Nothing to hide here, it's all good.

Absolute giant respect for answering honestly.

Disgusted · « **Reply #82 on:** October 01, 2008, 12:38:45 PM »

Quote from: tbombz on September 30, 2008, 03:17:55 PM

Insulin does alot more than bloat and contribute to glycogen stores though.

Insulin = anti catabolic

Steroids = anabolic

Combine the two for real muscle growth..

Im just wondering how he thinks it ruins physiques.. Personally I think gh(igf) is responsible for the distended abdomens. The other issues with today's physiques are lack of striations, detail, conditioning... maybe insulin is the culprit behind that? I dont know. Thats why im asking King.

The anabolic anti-catabolic has zero merit when it comes to this debate. In fact, I know of no real proof that insulin's role in muscle growth is due to it's anti-catabolic proterties if any. If you do have any type of proof or at least a sound theory please feel free to share it with us.

Imo insluin does NOT do much more than contribute to bloat and glycogen storage. I hear all the time about how when someone gets off of insulin they look and feel really flat. This is due to the fact that you are more bloated (mainly) and you are storing more glycogen. Insulin does help build muscle, just imo there are reasons which I do not have time to get into right now that I would either not use it or use it sparinly on and off thru out the year.

tbombz · « **Reply #83 on:** October 01, 2008, 02:34:14 PM »

Quote from: Disgusted on October 01, 2008, 12:38:45 PM

In fact, I know of no real proof that insulin's role in muscle growth is due to it's anti-catabolic proterties if any.

Imo insluin does NOT do much more than contribute to bloat and glycogen storage.

Seriously ?

Stavios · « **Reply #84 on:** October 01, 2008, 04:10:24 PM »

Quote from: tbombz on October 01, 2008, 02:34:14 PM

Seriously ?

A welterweight from my gym got on insulin, he got up to 220 lbs (he is like 5'4). He looked huge and he wasn't fat.

he dieted down, and he was still a welterweight. (a pretty damn good welter tho

)

it was all bloat

Robert_Lopez · « **Reply #85 on:** October 01, 2008, 04:10:53 PM »

Quote from: King Kamali on October 01, 2008, 09:21:17 AM

Noel Fuller: I'm sure you are right but from my own personal experience, especially when I was working with Chad Nicholls it was not used in the offseason.. Just for loading before a show.. And don't forget, at that time Chad was also advising Ronnie, Nasser, Flex, Myself, Don Long, Tom Prince and I know for a fact that none of these men were on insulin until showtime.

polychronopolous: The mans face does looked aged and don't forget he is only 29.. He looks 40.. Just my opinion. You are correct in the fact that he is a smoker.. I saw it at the Europa a couple years ago.

Polska_Sensation: Ahhhhh, the good old days. The answer to your question is yes I partied like a rock star and had the time of my life. I could go down a list of the things I did and taking Ecstasy is at the bottom of that list. Threesoms, foursoms, orgies, 5 minute batroom stall relationships in the clubs, porn stars in Miami, etc... It was a wild time in my life and I survived. Nothing to hide here, it's all good.

Ummm You do know Polska that he is just playing with you!!! He never did any threesoms,foursoms, orgies, 5 minute bathroom stall relationships in the clubs, porn stars in Miami, etc. I know for a fact cause I was standing right next to him all those nights

tbombz · « **Reply #86 on:** October 01, 2008, 04:21:15 PM »

Quote from: Stavios on October 01, 2008, 04:10:24 PM

A welterweight from my gym got on insulin, he got up to 220 lbs (he is like 5'4). He looked huge and he wasn't fat.

he dieted down, and he was still a welterweight. (a pretty damn good welter tho )

it was all bloat

Alot of times that happens to guys. They make gains every offseason yet ever year come showtime they weigh the same. Why? They use the same diet (same caloric intake) every year for their prep.

My guess is that he didnt increase his calorie level from his last shows prep to this shows prep.

King Kamali · « **Reply #87 on:** October 01, 2008, 04:52:11 PM »

That's right people.. Lopez was standing right next to me on just about every single one of those magical occasions. My favorite part was leaving the "club" at 4:00 PM Sunday after arriving at the club at 4:00 AM Saturday.. Ummm that's 12 hours of family fun and rounds of redbull for everyone

. Like the movie, we owned the night and that's just about all that needs to be said.

NaturalWonder83 · « **Reply #88 on:** October 01, 2008, 05:36:46 PM »

king i used to not like u alot but after your recent show and the numerous ownings u have served i am now one of your biggest fans-keep up the great work-ive been following your diet and back routine from the muscletech book and i seen good reults
i also liked in the muscletechs dvd about food where its u and the boys w/ boeving jay cutler says egg whites and u say whole eggs making jay look like a warry wart...lol lol lol nice bro!!!

in iron
gene

Polska_Sensation · « **Reply #89 on:** October 02, 2008, 11:08:45 AM »

Ridiculous man. Lopez are you some BB are just a hanger-on, just playing bro'. I know he never had threesomes, foursomes or any of that bad stuff, he is a professional BB, they don't do those kind's of things.

Robert_Lopez · « **Reply #90 on:** October 02, 2008, 01:37:34 PM »

Quote from: King Kamali on October 01, 2008, 04:52:11 PM

That's right people.. Lopez was standing right next to me on just about every single one of those magical occasions. My favorite part was leaving the "club" at 4:00 PM Sunday after arriving at the club at 4:00 AM Saturday.. Ummm that's 12 hours of family fun and rounds of redbull for everyone . Like the movie, we owned the night and that's just about all that needs to be said.

Ahhh, the good ol day's!!! If you guys only knew!!!!!

derekanthony · « **Reply #91 on:** October 02, 2008, 01:55:41 PM »

hey king,

listen i always respected you... but your first post??? come on bro are you serious?? you were real good in 2001,200etc, but dude just admit it man your body isnt the same and its not just me talking. hundreds of people think your delusional, and your just listening to the good people kissing your ass.... wider then wolf? bigger then melvin, and dexter . yeah you may weigh more but bro its mostly in your stomach. wolf has a ten times superior build then you, hes younger and way better now... not in those picks you posted when it was like he was what 25 26. he was still a baby. and bigger then melvin and dex? dude there builds are symetrical and beautiful. i just cant believe you can say shit like that. bro you need help guess all those drugs from factory in NYC days fried your brain man. i had so much more respect for you but i dont even want to say i looked up to you, and asked for your advice anymore . all my friends and people at md ,getbig etc think your delusional. represent NY better dude. you are loosing it man. let it go. promote shows, do some guest appearences but saying your top 10 material at the o makes you look silly. i think i am the only one telling you the truth i dont give a shit if you put me down or say im on crack or im a buck tooth whatever cause bro ill come say it to your face i get ten times more hate then you im not one of these pussy ass bitches from getbig or md talkign shit. from a man to man for real. and least im not saying what you said in your first post! love me or hate me least i am not delusional.

peace

Stavios · « **Reply #92 on:** October 02, 2008, 02:00:21 PM »

gotta respect Derek for posting on the boards with his real name and talking like this.

especially when he must meet King at every expo

flexingtonsteele · « **Reply #93 on:** October 02, 2008, 02:05:04 PM »

Quote from: Stavios on October 02, 2008, 02:00:21 PM

gotta respect Derek for posting on the boards with his real name and talking like this.

especially when he must meet King at every expo

exactly, we are all entitled to our own opinions, and i respect Derek for that.

He did the same thing King did, and stated what he thinks is true. Nothing wrong with that!

Should start a good discussion/debate anyways.

Glen..

**** Just keep it positive fellas*****

alejandro_torres · « **Reply #94 on:** October 02, 2008, 02:26:22 PM »

but i posted a pic of wolf and king from the front... didnt even make a comment, but my post got erased!!!

derekanthony · « **Reply #95 on:** October 02, 2008, 02:50:46 PM »

i dont hate king at all. i like his bad ass attitude . i just dont think hes getting wright information from whoever is telling him he looks good. his mom,wife fans ?? come on i mean serious. king ill put 5 k on it thats 1k more then to just show up at a qualified o placing. that you will never place top 10 again. lets see

put your $$ were your mouth is and stop blaming the judges! its your physique they dont like not your personality or anything you did in your past. and please god dont pose your back side like ronnie coleman when you were such a good entertaining poser. go back to what go you famous being lean and ripped and CONDITIONED and your great posing. not looking big and bloaded with a huge gut. and that last posing performance which was horrible. and dont say i cant dance etc etc. i use to dance for women for 5 years i know how to entertain and women will like you more posing like a your robotic cool ways then that shaking your ass like that performance. dude it was horrible.and i am not the only one that thinks so i have the balls to say it !

flexingtonsteele · « **Reply #96 on:** October 02, 2008, 02:56:20 PM »

keep it positive guys!!!

King Kamali · « **Reply #97 on:** October 02, 2008, 05:14:07 PM »

Robbie and I had some great times.. Even some shit that I would love to forget

.. But hey, it was a learning experience and we did what we did.. Times change and we are now both on a separate path. It was a very sad day today. We both attended Steve Stone's funeral and I must say it was surreal. The church was packed and a lot of respect was given to a good man. Other than a few morons that came with tank tops and muscle shirts and some women that were there in outfits that were made for clubs and not a funeral it was a very classy farewell... Life is too short. Anyway, I got back on track tonight and blasted chest and triceps. I am pushing 288 lbs. so I think I will increase the cardio a bit to slow things down. My rebound is the best ever but I do not want to jump past 290.. That's too much to fast. More good news is coming from Jim and his Powder.. I think you all will soon benefit from his creation.. Just hang in tight I promise it will be worth it.

Once again goodbye Steve... You will be missed.. RIP.

Stavios · « **Reply #98 on:** October 02, 2008, 05:16:24 PM »

Quote from: King Kamali on October 02, 2008, 05:14:07 PM

Robbie and I had some great times.. Even some shit that I would love to forget .. But hey, it was a learning experience and we did what we did.. Times change and we are now both on a separate path. It was a very sad day today. We both attended Steve Stone's funeral and I must say it was surreal. The church was packed and a lot of respect was given to a good man. Other than a few morons that came with tank tops and muscle shirts and some women that were there in outfits that were made for clubs and not a funeral it was a very classy farewell... Life is too short. Anyway, I got back on track tonight and blasted chest and triceps. I am pushing 288 lbs. so I think I will increase the cardio a bit to slow things down. My rebound is the best ever but I do not want to jump past 290.. That's too much to fast. More good news is coming from Jim and his Powder.. I think you all will soon benefit from his creation.. Just hang in tight I promise it will be worth it.

Once again goodbye Steve... You will be missed.. RIP.

Are you fucking serious ?!?!

damn some people have no class

RIP mr.Stone

Polska_Sensation · « **Reply #99 on:** October 02, 2008, 05:18:13 PM »

Derek shut up, your a nobody. Your a personal trainer, your a wannabe, just dont post anymore dude, your a bottom feeder.