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Re: Would Yates 93 have won yesterday?
« Reply #75 on: September 28, 2008, 04:55:42 PM »
I was going to ask if you were retarded but we've already established that , its NOT mine I made the side by side I didn't make the pic

and if I did it would be a pic I didn't post a dozen times before and one you couldn't compare it to  ;)

you on the otherhand were busted by a professional graphic artist and the best contest photographer in the business lol next



psst. no one believes you ND.

everyone knows you sharpened the pic and tried to pass it off as legit.

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Re: Would Yates 93 have won yesterday?
« Reply #76 on: September 28, 2008, 04:57:51 PM »
he didn't say that physique , he said right before the contest  ;) you comprehension skills leave a lot to be desired lol



WTF

he said that physique could beat any bb in history of the sport.

we dont have those shots but we have the horrible arm shots from 95 and they probably look BETTER than the precontest shots LOL

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LOL and you agree with this guy LOL

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Re: Would Yates 93 have won yesterday?
« Reply #77 on: September 28, 2008, 04:59:03 PM »
psst. no one believes you ND.

everyone knows you sharpened the pic and tried to pass it off as legit.

hope this helps.

Ha Ha Ha forced to try and speak for everyone again NO ONE cares

Hulkster tried to pass of dozens of Bizzy's enhanced screencaps as ' overwhelming proof ' Kevin Horton exposed you now you're trying to deflect , exactly the same reason you reduced to personal attacks because you have nothing as usual  ;)

Dorian can't be the best bodybuilding in the world because one bicep is shorter than the other and yet Ronnie his with TWO missing calves that lack everything

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Re: Would Yates 93 have won yesterday?
« Reply #78 on: September 28, 2008, 05:01:21 PM »
WTF

he said that physique could beat any bb in history of the sport.

we dont have those shots but we have the horrible arm shots from 95 and they probably look BETTER than the precontest shots LOL

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LOL and you agree with this guy LOL

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I'll tell you what Hulkster just because he states it doesn't make it true , that's the difference between you and I , I can accept it for what it is a opinion on a subjective topic , you on the otherhand clings to quotes saying Ronnie would beat Yates but when Yates' is concerned they're junk lol

HYPOCRITE thats what you are

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Re: Would Yates 93 have won yesterday?
« Reply #79 on: September 28, 2008, 05:04:00 PM »

Dorian would beat Ronnie because he carries more muscular bulk , he has better balance & proportion and his density & dryness are much better , he's also better at posing & presentation . thats my dimwitted retarded friend is NOT subjective  ;)

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Re: Would Yates 93 have won yesterday?
« Reply #80 on: September 28, 2008, 05:07:08 PM »
I'll tell you what Hulkster just because he states it doesn't make it true , that's the difference between you and I , I can accept it for what it is a opinion on a subjective topic , you on the otherhand clings to quotes saying Ronnie would beat Yates but when Yates' is concerned they're junk lol

HYPOCRITE thats what you are

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this coming someone famous for shoving quote after quote after quote down everyone's throats and assuming them all to be 100% true

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Re: Would Yates 93 have won yesterday?
« Reply #81 on: September 28, 2008, 05:09:08 PM »
::)

this coming someone famous for shoving quote after quote after quote down everyone's throats and assuming them all to be 100% true

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No wrong again , I always said they don't make them true on subjective matters , however who was harder & drier was NOT subjective  ;) when McGough states Ronnie was NEVER harder or drier than Yates that's LAW as far as your concerned , he's right on the money too he called Dexter winning the show this year lol

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Re: Would Yates 93 have won yesterday?
« Reply #82 on: September 28, 2008, 05:12:49 PM »
 Why not have this argument on the truce thread?
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Re: Would Yates 93 have won yesterday?
« Reply #83 on: September 28, 2008, 05:14:04 PM »
Why not have this argument on the truce thread?

because I'm not there so the truce thread follows me like lost little puppies to every single thread I type in lol they need MY attention

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Re: Would Yates 93 have won yesterday?
« Reply #84 on: September 28, 2008, 05:24:55 PM »
Why not have this argument on the truce thread?

ND ran away from that thread like a little pussy. He lost and he knew it.

he fears me.

just like Kevin Thorton does... he ran away too.

birds of a feather, like to flock together LOL
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Re: Would Yates 93 have won yesterday?
« Reply #85 on: September 28, 2008, 05:28:06 PM »
ND ran away from that thread like a little pussy. He lost and he knew it.

he fears me.

just like Kevin Thorton does... he ran away too.

birds of a feather, like to flock together LOL

Hulkster I fear NOTHING you ever typed or your photoshopped screencaps  ;) I could leave my opinion to stand on its own two feet YOU can't  ;) you keep trying to prove to ME

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Re: Would Yates 93 have won yesterday?
« Reply #86 on: September 28, 2008, 05:28:56 PM »
yates ronnie even flex flex leverone and ray would have won at their best, Dexter was Dexter, no difference Jay was off and isnt as good as those mentioned.

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Re: Would Yates 93 have won yesterday?
« Reply #87 on: September 28, 2008, 05:34:08 PM »
because I'm not there so the truce thread follows me like lost little puppies to every single thread I type in lol they need MY attention

Trust me ND. Nobody with an ounce of intelligence would follow you. You blather on and on about Yates. He had plenty of faults. His chest was weak compared to Coleman. His biceps were awful. His symmetry was non-existent after 1993 (although he was great in 1995, but I digress). Every bodybuilder has faults. Jay in 2006 looked very good; he deserved to win. He would have beaten Yates 2004, 2006 and 2007 without question. He is simply bigger with better striations. Jay of 2008 is a toaster. Dorian of 1997 was old and very close to losing if somebody would have come into the show in shape. If you think a 1993 could stand next to a 2003 Coleman and not get dwarfed you are an idiot. Dorian was 255 pounds. Ronnie was 286 pounds and every bit has striated. In fact, I would say that Ronnie had over 30 pounds of muscle on Dorian; I would bet you that their bodyfats were each less than 4-5%. Yes, it is debatable about who the judges would pick. I grant anyone that bodybuilding is a subjective, not objective, sport. Thus, a pro-Ronnie judging panel would have given him the show; same with Yates. After 1995 Dorian looked like shit. That is why he retired early. His receptors to drugs were failing and he came in looking a shadow of his former self (shadow of his former self...I amuse myself). At least he had the brains to get out before he got his ass handed to him. Ronnie stayed around a year too long.

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Re: Would Yates 93 have won yesterday?
« Reply #88 on: September 28, 2008, 05:34:38 PM »
Hulkster I fear NOTHING you ever typed or your photoshopped screencaps  ;) I could leave my opinion to stand on its own two feet YOU can't  ;) you keep trying to prove to ME

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Re: Would Yates 93 have won yesterday?
« Reply #89 on: September 28, 2008, 05:36:25 PM »
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Trust me ND. Nobody with an ounce of intelligence would follow you. You blather on and on about Yates. He had plenty of faults. His chest was weak compared to Coleman. His biceps were awful. His symmetry was non-existent after 1993

exactly.

but ND is too dense to get this.

everyone alway tells him this, shows him this, but he is just too damn dumb (or infatuated?)
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Re: Would Yates 93 have won yesterday?
« Reply #90 on: September 28, 2008, 05:42:20 PM »
Trust me ND. Nobody with an ounce of intelligence would follow you. You blather on and on about Yates. He had plenty of faults. His chest was weak compared to Coleman. His biceps were awful. His symmetry was non-existent after 1993 (although he was great in 1995, but I digress). Every bodybuilder has faults. Jay in 2006 looked very good; he deserved to win. He would have beaten Yates 2004, 2006 and 2007 without question. He is simply bigger with better striations. Jay of 2008 is a toaster. Dorian of 1997 was old and very close to losing if somebody would have come into the show in shape. If you think a 1993 could stand next to a 2003 Coleman and not get dwarfed you are an idiot. Dorian was 255 pounds. Ronnie was 286 pounds and every bit has striated. In fact, I would say that Ronnie had over 30 pounds of muscle on Dorian; I would bet you that their bodyfats were each less than 4-5%. Yes, it is debatable about who the judges would pick. I grant anyone that bodybuilding is a subjective, not objective, sport. Thus, a pro-Ronnie judging panel would have given him the show; same with Yates. After 1995 Dorian looked like shit. That is why he retired early. His receptors to drugs were failing and he came in looking a shadow of his former self (shadow of his former self...I amuse myself). At least he had the brains to get out before he got his ass handed to him. Ronnie stayed around a year too long.

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Re: Would Yates 93 have won yesterday?
« Reply #91 on: September 28, 2008, 05:43:26 PM »
..says the cowardly loser who runs away LOL

says the puppy who follows me around and hangs on MY every word I own you , you're in my pocket  ;)

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Re: Would Yates 93 have won yesterday?
« Reply #92 on: September 28, 2008, 05:44:03 PM »

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“ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!”
 
Q.  Milos, what do you think about the results of the 2003 Mr. Olympia? I remember reading your prediction in Flex that Ronnie Coleman would lose his crown.  Needless to say, Ronnie totally dominated all competition, and convincingly won his sixth ‘Olympia title.
After the show I logged onto your website bulletin board, to read your comments, expecting a public apology to Ronnie, but instead you wrote: “If I was a judge, I would have put one guy in front of him?”
Who is this person and why was he better than Ronnie?
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A. First of all let me emphasize that I consider Ronnie Coleman my personnel friend, someone I love, and respect very much. Ronnie, and I actually turned professional at the exact same time, and competed together for over a decade.  I personally witnessed first hand his rise to the top, and believe me, I was (and still am) ecstatic about his success, which couldn’t happen to a nicer or more deserving person.  Ronnie Coleman is simply a great person, and I mean that, in the true sense of the word, both as a bodybuilder and as a wonderful human being.
I must admit he looked beyond incredible at this year’s Mr. Olympia, and he won by a unanimous judging decision, (perfect scores from every judge in every round) and that my friend is totally unbelievable!
I will never forget (October 25th 2003) the moment when Ronnie first stepped on the stage, because it seemed that all sense of time had stopped for a moment.  Everyone was in a state of complete shock, and an eerie silence was broken only by the whispers of sheer disbelief!
No human EVER looked like that! EVER!
Reportedly, he weighed in around 290 pounds (over 130 kilos) at a height of 5’ 11” (179cm), and it is my guess that he was actually below 3% body fat!  His conditioning was simply superb, and his muscle mass absolutely unmatched.
But, did he deserve to win?  Well, few would argue, and personally, I felt just like every judge did.  I was witnessing the current Mr. Olympia in tremendous condition, but carrying 40 extra pounds of ripped muscle.  I realized then and there that Ronnie Coleman was simply unbeatable!
But then, I felt myself thinking the way IFBB judges do, which is making us believe that bigger is better, however as a friend of Ronnie, and also a fan, I was happy to notice an overwhelmingly impression from almost everyone, that he would easily win the title again.
In fact, everyone I talked to told me the same thing.  The sky is blue.  The grass is green, and Ronnie Coleman is still Mr. Olympia.
Chris Lund who I consider to be a great expert in our sport of bodybuilding, told me that Ronnie is simply the best bodybuilder he has ever seen, or photographed, and he has seen everybody, during the last 35 years.
Most IFBB officials, professional athletes and judges, also told me that Ronnie was untouchable, so naturally I found myself in agreement with them, at that time, and I am still extremely pleased that he won, and I am really proud of him.
But, I’ll tell you a little secret.  Every year, for the last 5 years Ronnie would call me a day or two after the ‘Olympia, to ask for my honest opinion, about his victory and conditioning, at that particular show.
He knew that I would always tell him the truth, (unlike many other people in the sport) because I have courage to criticize, and have no problem expressing my opinion. Complements are always nice to hear, and naturally everybody always loves to hear them, but really how many people truly mean what they say? It is very easy to give a compliment which means that the recipient will most certainly enjoy hearing it. Critique on the other hand, doesn’t sit well with most people, especially bodybuilders, after a contest, or during a photo shoot.  Just ask Chris Lund!
On the other hand, there were occasions, when I simply had to tell Ronnie that he was lucky to win.  In other words, there were times when I didn’t think he deserved to win the Mr. Olympia!

 
 
 This is from another thread about Dex and deserving to win earlier. As I said, Milos who competed during both of their reigns knows who was the king. As he so articulately states, when on Ronnie was unbeatable. When off, well Ronnie was not so great. Same can be said about Dorian the one armed Olympia.

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Re: Would Yates 93 have won yesterday?
« Reply #93 on: September 28, 2008, 05:46:25 PM »

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“ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!”
 
Q.  Milos, what do you think about the results of the 2003 Mr. Olympia? I remember reading your prediction in Flex that Ronnie Coleman would lose his crown.  Needless to say, Ronnie totally dominated all competition, and convincingly won his sixth ‘Olympia title.
After the show I logged onto your website bulletin board, to read your comments, expecting a public apology to Ronnie, but instead you wrote: “If I was a judge, I would have put one guy in front of him?”
Who is this person and why was he better than Ronnie?
Marc Tepple e-mail

A. First of all let me emphasize that I consider Ronnie Coleman my personnel friend, someone I love, and respect very much. Ronnie, and I actually turned professional at the exact same time, and competed together for over a decade.  I personally witnessed first hand his rise to the top, and believe me, I was (and still am) ecstatic about his success, which couldn’t happen to a nicer or more deserving person.  Ronnie Coleman is simply a great person, and I mean that, in the true sense of the word, both as a bodybuilder and as a wonderful human being.
I must admit he looked beyond incredible at this year’s Mr. Olympia, and he won by a unanimous judging decision, (perfect scores from every judge in every round) and that my friend is totally unbelievable!
I will never forget (October 25th 2003) the moment when Ronnie first stepped on the stage, because it seemed that all sense of time had stopped for a moment.  Everyone was in a state of complete shock, and an eerie silence was broken only by the whispers of sheer disbelief!
No human EVER looked like that! EVER!
Reportedly, he weighed in around 290 pounds (over 130 kilos) at a height of 5’ 11” (179cm), and it is my guess that he was actually below 3% body fat!  His conditioning was simply superb, and his muscle mass absolutely unmatched.
But, did he deserve to win?  Well, few would argue, and personally, I felt just like every judge did.  I was witnessing the current Mr. Olympia in tremendous condition, but carrying 40 extra pounds of ripped muscle.  I realized then and there that Ronnie Coleman was simply unbeatable!
But then, I felt myself thinking the way IFBB judges do, which is making us believe that bigger is better, however as a friend of Ronnie, and also a fan, I was happy to notice an overwhelmingly impression from almost everyone, that he would easily win the title again.
In fact, everyone I talked to told me the same thing.  The sky is blue.  The grass is green, and Ronnie Coleman is still Mr. Olympia.
Chris Lund who I consider to be a great expert in our sport of bodybuilding, told me that Ronnie is simply the best bodybuilder he has ever seen, or photographed, and he has seen everybody, during the last 35 years.
Most IFBB officials, professional athletes and judges, also told me that Ronnie was untouchable, so naturally I found myself in agreement with them, at that time, and I am still extremely pleased that he won, and I am really proud of him.
But, I’ll tell you a little secret.  Every year, for the last 5 years Ronnie would call me a day or two after the ‘Olympia, to ask for my honest opinion, about his victory and conditioning, at that particular show.
He knew that I would always tell him the truth, (unlike many other people in the sport) because I have courage to criticize, and have no problem expressing my opinion. Complements are always nice to hear, and naturally everybody always loves to hear them, but really how many people truly mean what they say? It is very easy to give a compliment which means that the recipient will most certainly enjoy hearing it. Critique on the other hand, doesn’t sit well with most people, especially bodybuilders, after a contest, or during a photo shoot.  Just ask Chris Lund!
On the other hand, there were occasions, when I simply had to tell Ronnie that he was lucky to win.  In other words, there were times when I didn’t think he deserved to win the Mr. Olympia!

 
 
 This is from another thread about Dex and deserving to win earlier. As I said, Milos who competed during both of their reigns knows who was the king. As he so articulately states, when on Ronnie was unbeatable. When off, well Ronnie was not so great. Same can be said about Dorian the one armed Olympia.

Did you actually read that? LOL he's saying Dexter should have won in 2003

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Re: Would Yates 93 have won yesterday?
« Reply #94 on: September 28, 2008, 05:56:43 PM »
Trust me ND. Nobody with an ounce of intelligence would follow you. You blather on and on about Yates. He had plenty of faults. His chest was weak compared to Coleman. His biceps were awful. His symmetry was non-existent after 1993 (although he was great in 1995, but I digress). Every bodybuilder has faults. Jay in 2006 looked very good; he deserved to win. He would have beaten Yates 2004, 2006 and 2007 without question. He is simply bigger with better striations. Jay of 2008 is a toaster. Dorian of 1997 was old and very close to losing if somebody would have come into the show in shape. If you think a 1993 could stand next to a 2003 Coleman and not get dwarfed you are an idiot. Dorian was 255 pounds. Ronnie was 286 pounds and every bit has striated. In fact, I would say that Ronnie had over 30 pounds of muscle on Dorian; I would bet you that their bodyfats were each less than 4-5%. Yes, it is debatable about who the judges would pick. I grant anyone that bodybuilding is a subjective, not objective, sport. Thus, a pro-Ronnie judging panel would have given him the show; same with Yates. After 1995 Dorian looked like shit. That is why he retired early. His receptors to drugs were failing and he came in looking a shadow of his former self (shadow of his former self...I amuse myself). At least he had the brains to get out before he got his ass handed to him. Ronnie stayed around a year too long.

did you actually type Jay would beat Dorian? LMFAO I glanced over this nonsense quickly and man you're way , way out there lol


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Re: Would Yates 93 have won yesterday?
« Reply #95 on: September 28, 2008, 05:58:44 PM »
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His conditioning was simply superb

are you idiots (ND and Suckmyasshole) reading this?

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Re: Would Yates 93 have won yesterday?
« Reply #96 on: September 28, 2008, 05:59:58 PM »
^

LOL

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Re: Would Yates 93 have won yesterday?
« Reply #97 on: September 28, 2008, 06:00:23 PM »
Why not have this argument on the truce thread?

I agree that them arguing is boring but Hulkster always instigates it, always. He follows ND around and he is fucking douche who turns anything about Dorian into a Coleman v ronnie deal. It's always him and fat pumpster. ND posts on other topics but Hulkster ONLY posts about Dorian or Ronnie and is an attention seeker troll. ND shoulddn't bite but he never starts it.

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Re: Would Yates 93 have won yesterday?
« Reply #98 on: September 28, 2008, 06:01:02 PM »
are you idiots (ND and Suckmyasshole) reading this?

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For that SIZE

OLD NEWS dummy it pales in comparison to 1998/2001 which is exactly its not considered his best

Ronnie what was your best Olympia? I would say my first because my conditioning was SPOT-ON

get it?

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Re: Would Yates 93 have won yesterday?
« Reply #99 on: September 28, 2008, 06:01:25 PM »
anyone else think that ronnie's forearms in 2003 were larger than dorian's UPPER arms in 1992?:

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