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Re: Sarah Palin Claims DINOSAURS and Humans Coexisted 6000 years ago. SCARY.
« Reply #100 on: September 28, 2008, 07:18:50 PM »
If you follow any type of statistics you will find that 3 fourths of the usa population believe we were created so I think your commont is`speaking only for yourself, she is representing America and she is on par with what the nation believes in

3/4th of the population probably can't tell your how many states there are in the union.
3/4th of the country probably can't name the VP
3/4th of the country probably couldn't tell you which countries borders us
3/4th of the country probably couldn't you show you where on the map Washington DC is

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« Reply #101 on: September 28, 2008, 07:19:05 PM »
We DON`T use Carbon dating anymore. We use POTASSIUM ARGON.

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Re: Sarah Palin Claims DINOSAURS and Humans Coexisted 6000 years ago. SCARY.
« Reply #102 on: September 28, 2008, 07:20:50 PM »
The lot of you people are REALLY ignorant.

Unbelievably so.



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Potassium-argon dating

Potassium-argon dating or K-Ar dating is a radiometric dating method used in geochronology and archeology. It is based on measuring the products of the radioactive decay of potassium (K), which is a common element found in materials such as micas, clay minerals, tephra, and evaporites. The long half-life of 40K allows the method to be used on all samples older than a few thousand years.[1] The quickly cooled lavas that make nearly ideal samples for K-Ar dating also preserve a record of the direction and intensity of the local magnetic field as the sample cooled past the Curie temperature of iron. The development of the geomagnetic polarity time scale depended largely on K-Ar dating.[2]
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1 Decay series
2 Method
3 Applications
4 Notes
5 References
6 Further reading
[edit]Decay series

Potassium naturally occurs in 3 isotopes - 39K (93.2581%), 40K (0.0117%), 41K (6.7302%). The radioactive isotope 40K decays with a half-life of 1.248x109 (1.248 billion) years. Conversion to stable 40Ca occurs via electron emission beta decay occurs in 89.1% of decay events. Conversion to stable 40Ar occurs via positron emission beta decay or electron capture in 10.9% of decay events.[3]
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Argon, being a noble gas, is not a major component of most samples of geochronological or archeological interest. When 40K decays to 40Ar, the gas may be unable to diffuse out of the host rock. Because argon is able to escape from molten rock, this accumulation provides a record of how much of the original 40K has decayed, and hence the amount of time that has passed since the sample solidified.
Calcium is common in the crust, with 40Ca being the most common isotope. Despite 40Ca being the favored daughter nuclide, its usefulness in dating is limited since a great many decay events are required for a small change in relative abundance.
The 40Ar content of a rock is determined by mass spectrometry of the gasses released when a sample is melted. The amount of 40K is determined using flame photometry or atomic absorption spectroscopy. The ratio of the amount of 40Ar to 40K is related to the time elapsed since the rock was cool enough to trap the Ar by:

In the foregoing, t is time elapsed, t1/2 is the half life of 40K, Kf is the amount of 40K remaining in the sample, and Arf is the amount of 40Ar found in the sample. The scale factor 0.109 corrects for the unmeasured fraction of 40K which decayed into 40Ca; the sum of the measured 40K and the scaled amount of 40Ar gives the amount of 40K in the original unaged sample. In practice, each of these values is scaled to the total potassium fraction as only relative, not absolute, quantities are required.
Extraneous argon is commonly incorporated into the cooling sample. The above equation may be corrected for the presence of non-radiogenic
40
Ar by subtracting from the measured 40Ar value the amount originally present as determined by the 40Ar/36Ar ratio. Ordinarily, 40Ar is 295.5 times more plentiful than 36Ar, though this may need to be adjusted if the sample cooled in an isotopically enriched or depleted region. The amount of the measured 40Ar that resulted from 40K decay is then:
40
Ardecayed =
40
Armeasured - 295.5 *
36
Armeasured.
Both flame photometry and mass spectrometry are destructive tests, so particular care is needed to ensure that the aliquots used are truly representative of the sample. Argon-argon dating is a similar technique which compares isotopic ratios from the same portion of the sample to avoid this problem.
Some additional information about the history and composition of a sample is required before K-Ar isotopic comparison may be used to produce accurate dates.[4] Great care is needed in selecting a sample for dating, as many potential samples have been contaminated by various means. The sample must have remained a closed system since it cooled enough to retain argon, neither admitting nor emitting either of the isotopes of interest. A deficiency of 40Ar in a sample of a known age can indicate a full or partial melt in the thermal history of the area. Molten magma can be contaminated by inclusion of older xenolithic material such as chilled deep sea basalts that may not completely outgas preexisting 40Ar before cooling. Reliability in the dating of a geological feature is increased by sampling disparate areas which have been subjected to slightly different thermal histories.[5]
Accuracy relies on the isotopic ratios included in the sample being representative since 40K is usually not measured directly, but is assumed to be 0.0117% of the total potassium. Unless some other process is active at the time of cooling, this is a very good assumption for terrestrial samples.[6] Accuracy also requires that the nuclear decay rate be unaffected by external conditions such as temperature and pressure. Because of the energy scales involved, this is a very good assumption, though the 40K electron capture partial decay constant may be enhanced at ultrahigh pressure.[1]
[edit]Applications

Due to the long half-life, the technique is most applicable for dating minerals and rocks more than 100,000 years old. K-Ar dating was instrumental in the development of the geomagnetic polarity time scale.[2] Although it finds the most utility in geological applications, it plays an important role in archaeology. One archeological application has been in bracketing the age of archeological deposits at Olduvai Gorge by dating lava flows above and below the deposits.[citation needed] It has also been indispensable in other early east African sites with a history of volcanic activity such as Hadar, Ethiopia.[citation needed] The K-Ar method continues to have utility in dating clay mineral diagenesis[7]. Clay minerals are less than 2 microns thick and cannot easily be irradiated for Ar-Ar analysis because Ar recoils from the crystal lattice.
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Re: Sarah Palin Claims DINOSAURS and Humans Coexisted 6000 years ago. SCARY.
« Reply #103 on: September 28, 2008, 07:21:04 PM »
3/4th of the population probably can't tell your how many states there are in the union.
3/4th of the country probably can't name the VP
3/4th of the country probably couldn't tell you which countries borders us
3/4th of the country probably couldn't you show you where on the map Washington DC is


I obvioulsy get your point, majority beliefs count for nothing, but the country as a whole would rather have a leader that has a belief in a creator

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Re: Sarah Palin Claims DINOSAURS and Humans Coexisted 6000 years ago. SCARY.
« Reply #104 on: September 28, 2008, 07:21:49 PM »
We DON`T use Carbon dating anymore. We use POTASSIUM ARGON.

Either way buddy, dont put all your eggs in one basket mmkay?

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Re: Sarah Palin Claims DINOSAURS and Humans Coexisted 6000 years ago. SCARY.
« Reply #105 on: September 28, 2008, 07:21:53 PM »
We DON`T use Carbon dating anymore. We use POTASSIUM ARGON.

Potassium Argon isn't much better than Carbon-14.  When it puts religious relics at the age they're "supposed" to be at, it's INCREDIBLY accurate, but when it doesn't, it is usually off by roughly 15 orders of magnitude.  

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Re: Sarah Palin Claims DINOSAURS and Humans Coexisted 6000 years ago. SCARY.
« Reply #106 on: September 28, 2008, 07:25:01 PM »
Potassium Argon isn't much better than Carbon-14.  When it puts religious relics at the age they're "supposed" to be at, it's INCREDIBLY accurate, but when it doesn't, it is usually off by roughly 15 orders of magnitude.  

Everyone knows this.
You really aren`t the sharpest knife in the drawer as you don`t have a fundamental understanding of isotope and electron dating.

Uranium has been able to date within billions of years.

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Re: Sarah Palin Claims DINOSAURS and Humans Coexisted 6000 years ago. SCARY.
« Reply #107 on: September 28, 2008, 07:27:06 PM »
Potassium Argon isn't much better than Carbon-14.  When it puts religious relics at the age they're "supposed" to be at, it's INCREDIBLY accurate, but when it doesn't, it is usually off by roughly 15 orders of magnitude.  

Everyone knows this.

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Re: Sarah Palin Claims DINOSAURS and Humans Coexisted 6000 years ago. SCARY.
« Reply #108 on: September 28, 2008, 07:27:36 PM »

i dont believe in magic

DO YOU BELIEVE IN MAGIC??


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Re: Sarah Palin Claims DINOSAURS and Humans Coexisted 6000 years ago. SCARY.
« Reply #109 on: September 28, 2008, 07:28:42 PM »
I obvioulsy get your point, majority beliefs count for nothing, but the country as a whole would rather have a leader that has a belief in a creator

and so we end with a $700 billion bailout/welfare plan that they will pay for, as long as they can sleep at night knowing that their leader believes what they believe.
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Re: Sarah Palin Claims DINOSAURS and Humans Coexisted 6000 years ago. SCARY.
« Reply #110 on: September 28, 2008, 07:29:41 PM »
You really aren`t the sharpest knife in the drawer as you don`t have a fundamental understanding of isotope and electron dating.

Uranium has been able to date within billions of years.

I'm sorry.  It is ONLY accurate when it places religious relics at the dates the bible claims.  Otherwise, they're all off by BILLIONS of years.  
As I said before, this is easily proved with Tylenol.  They "claim" it has a half life of roughly 4 hours, but we all know it can work anywhere from 0.000001 seconds to 15 billion years.  

That's the crap shoot half-life dating works with.  


The fact of the matter is this:
When highly scientific dating procedures put religious relics as being from the date the bible claims, it is CORRECT.  
When highly scientific dating procedures put religious relics as being ANY other age, they're incredibly INACCURATE.  Usually off by BILLIONS of years.

I thought this was all taught in Sunday school?
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Re: Sarah Palin Claims DINOSAURS and Humans Coexisted 6000 years ago. SCARY.
« Reply #111 on: September 28, 2008, 07:34:26 PM »
I'm sorry.  It is ONLY accurate when it places religious relics at the dates the bible claims.  Otherwise, they're all off by BILLIONS of years.  
As I said before, this is easily proved with Tylenol.  They "claim" it has a half life of roughly 4 hours, but we all know it can work anywhere from 0.000001 seconds to 15 billion years.  

That's the crap shoot half-life dating works with.  


The fact of the matter is this:
When highly scientific dating procedures put religious relics as being from the date the bible claims, it is CORRECT.  
When highly scientific dating procedures put religious relics as being ANY other age, they're incredibly INACCURATE.  Usually off by BILLIONS of years.

I thought this was all taught in Sunday school?
Totally wrong.  I am speechless at your ignorance.

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Re: Sarah Palin Claims DINOSAURS and Humans Coexisted 6000 years ago. SCARY.
« Reply #112 on: September 28, 2008, 07:34:57 PM »
I'm sorry.  It is ONLY accurate when it places religious relics at the dates the bible claims.  Otherwise, they're all off by BILLIONS of years.  
As I said before, this is easily proved with Tylenol.  They "claim" it has a half life of roughly 4 hours, but we all know it can work anywhere from 0.000001 seconds to 15 billion years.  

That's the crap shoot half-life dating works with.  


The fact of the matter is this:
When highly scientific dating procedures put religious relics as being from the date the bible claims, it is CORRECT.  
When highly scientific dating procedures put religious relics as being ANY other age, they're incredibly INACCURATE.  Usually off by BILLIONS of years.

I thought this was all taught in Sunday school?

R U for real?
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Re: Sarah Palin Claims DINOSAURS and Humans Coexisted 6000 years ago. SCARY.
« Reply #113 on: September 28, 2008, 07:36:25 PM »
  :o MAGIC  :o


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Re: Sarah Palin Claims DINOSAURS and Humans Coexisted 6000 years ago. SCARY.
« Reply #114 on: September 28, 2008, 07:36:53 PM »
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Re: Sarah Palin Claims DINOSAURS and Humans Coexisted 6000 years ago. SCARY.
« Reply #115 on: September 28, 2008, 07:44:23 PM »
Totally wrong.  I am speechless at your ignorance.

It's all in the "book."

The first derivative with respect to time is "Jesus."
The second derivative with respect to time is "Joseph."

It is widely known that the laplacian operator is in fact "Peter." 



I challenge anyone to work through the Principle of least action and show that kinetic energy minus potential energy isn't the "Lagrangian," but in fact mathematical proof that the earth is younger than some Egyptian hieroglyphics. 

Many scholars believe that a "Cauchy plane" is just Jesus lying on a beach blanket.  It is also widely known that "Lie Groups" is code for "the cosmological constant is off by nearly 15 billion years."

e^i"theta" is NOT a "unified theory" of trigonometry and algebra, but proof that an infallible God's desire for worship and praise is NOT a character fault. 
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« Reply #116 on: September 28, 2008, 07:46:16 PM »
It's all in the "book."

The first derivative with respect to time is "Jesus."
The second derivative with respect to time is "Joseph."

It is widely known that the laplacian operator is in fact "Peter." 



I challenge anyone to work through the Principle of least action and show that kinetic energy minus potential energy isn't the "Lagrangian," but in fact mathematical proof that the earth is younger than some Egyptian hieroglyphics. 

Many scholars believe that a "Cauchy plane" is just Jesus lying on a beach blanket.  It is also widely known that "Lie Groups" is code for "the cosmological constant is off by nearly 15 billion years."

e^i"theta" is NOT a "unified theory" of trigonometry and algebra, but proof that an infallible God's desire for worship and praise is NOT a character fault. 

I hope your a gimmick man.because if not.........WOW.
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Re: Sarah Palin Claims DINOSAURS and Humans Coexisted 6000 years ago. SCARY.
« Reply #117 on: September 28, 2008, 07:46:38 PM »
In high school, I had a science teacher that kept telling us the world was flat.  The whole year he harped on it.   ::)
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Re: Sarah Palin Claims DINOSAURS and Humans Coexisted 6000 years ago. SCARY.
« Reply #118 on: September 28, 2008, 07:48:04 PM »
I hope your a gimmick man.because if not.........WOW.

Not a gimmick. 
In fact, here is Jesus himself proving that leprosy is caused by God's hatred.

Any 1600's death certificate will show such causes of death as "King's Evil," "Planet," and "rising of the lights."
It's all in "Cosmos" by Carl Sagan.
If that isn't proof that the every single bit of scientific evidence is wrong an the bible is right, I don't know what is.

 
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Re: Sarah Palin Claims DINOSAURS and Humans Coexisted 6000 years ago. SCARY.
« Reply #119 on: September 28, 2008, 07:53:23 PM »
I hope your a gimmick man.because if not.........WOW.

Why, has your extensive research into lie groups proven evidence to the contrary of my post?
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Re: Sarah Palin Claims DINOSAURS and Humans Coexisted 6000 years ago. SCARY.
« Reply #120 on: September 28, 2008, 07:55:10 PM »
It's all in the "book."

The first derivative with respect to time is "Jesus."
The second derivative with respect to time is "Joseph."

It is widely known that the laplacian operator is in fact "Peter." 



I challenge anyone to work through the Principle of least action and show that kinetic energy minus potential energy isn't the "Lagrangian," but in fact mathematical proof that the earth is younger than some Egyptian hieroglyphics. 

Many scholars believe that a "Cauchy plane" is just Jesus lying on a beach blanket.  It is also widely known that "Lie Groups" is code for "the cosmological constant is off by nearly 15 billion years."

e^i"theta" is NOT a "unified theory" of trigonometry and algebra, but proof that an infallible God's desire for worship and praise is NOT a character fault. 

I hope this is sarcasm on your part.

I mean the derivative of 4x^2 is 8x, so does that mean there are 8 gods all named Lord Xenu??!?

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Re: Sarah Palin Claims DINOSAURS and Humans Coexisted 6000 years ago. SCARY.
« Reply #121 on: September 28, 2008, 07:55:40 PM »
Not a gimmick.
In fact, here is Jesus himself proving that leprosy is caused by God's hatred.

Any 1600's death certificate will show such causes of death as "King's Evil," "Planet," and "rising of the lights."
It's all in "Cosmos" by Carl Sagan.
If that isn't proof that the every single bit of scientific evidence is wrong an the bible is right, I don't know what is

oh man ::) ::)

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Re: Sarah Palin Claims DINOSAURS and Humans Coexisted 6000 years ago. SCARY.
« Reply #122 on: September 28, 2008, 07:56:08 PM »
I hope this is sarcasm on your part.

I meant the derivative of 4x^2 is 8X, so does that mean there are 8 gods all named Lord Xenu??!?


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Re: Sarah Palin Claims DINOSAURS and Humans Coexisted 6000 years ago. SCARY.
« Reply #123 on: September 28, 2008, 08:00:04 PM »
I hope this is sarcasm on your part.

I mean the derivative of 4x^2 is 8x, so does that mean there are 8 gods all named Lord Xenu??!?

If you take the Taylor's series to infinity, Jesus gives you a birthday cake.

It's true.
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Re: Sarah Palin Claims DINOSAURS and Humans Coexisted 6000 years ago. SCARY.
« Reply #124 on: September 28, 2008, 08:01:51 PM »
Not a gimmick. 
In fact, here is Jesus himself proving that leprosy is caused by God's hatred.

Any 1600's death certificate will show such causes of death as "King's Evil," "Planet," and "rising of the lights."
It's all in "Cosmos" by Carl Sagan.
If that isn't proof that the every single bit of scientific evidence is wrong an the bible is right, I don't know what is.

 


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