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Proof bodybuilding isn't a sport
« on: September 29, 2008, 10:17:50 AM »
After the Mr. Olympia, described by many pro bodybuilders as the 'Superbowl of Bodybuilding, there isn't a single news article mentioning Dex's win over Jay.  If bodybuilding was a sport, you'd think that someone would report an upset like that.

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Re: Proof bodybuilding isn't a sport
« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2008, 10:19:41 AM »
95% of the "posing routines" were gay g4p pop-locking ass-shaking dancing stripping to r&b crap.
Bodybuilding needs more Dennis Wolfs and less Toney Freemans if they want to broaden its appeal.

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Re: Proof bodybuilding isn't a sport
« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2008, 10:22:33 AM »
Do the Sports Books at the casinos have odds on the Olympia

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Re: Proof bodybuilding isn't a sport
« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2008, 11:16:52 AM »
it wasn't reported because nobody outside of bodybuilding forums care

like i always say, notice how espn has nfl shows all year even in the offseason?

people are obsessed with the nfl, nobody cares about bodybuilding

every year in may when jim manion has his show here in pittsburgh, the show is advertised in the SPORTS SECTION OF THE NEWSPAPER 8)

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Re: Proof bodybuilding isn't a sport
« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2008, 01:04:25 PM »
What's interesting is to see how much bodybuilding is reported in other countries.  If you set up a Google News Alert on bodybuilding (http://news.google.com/news?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GGLD_en___US247&q=bodybuilding&um=1&tab=wn&nolr=1&sa=N&start=0) , it seems like there is a bodybuilding news story from the Bahamas and/or Jamaica every week and ones from India, Thailand and other Asian countries almost weekly.

All the stories in the US seem to be local color stories.  (examples:  "Pumped up about bodybuilding", "Seminole woman eyes move to pro body building" and "His job is a workout")

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Re: Proof bodybuilding isn't a sport
« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2008, 01:43:23 PM »
Do the Sports Books at the casinos have odds on the Olympia

Why would they? That's like taking bets on WWE matches.....
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Re: Proof bodybuilding isn't a sport
« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2008, 01:49:47 PM »
it wasn't reported because nobody outside of bodybuilding forums care

like i always say, notice how espn has nfl shows all year even in the offseason?

people are obsessed with the nfl, nobody cares about bodybuilding

every year in may when jim manion has his show here in pittsburgh, the show is advertised in the SPORTS SECTION OF THE NEWSPAPER 8)

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Not to mention that "drugs" rule this "sport" Earl. ESPN nor any Sports network wants to televise "sports" that are directly and undoubtedly enhanced by drugs.

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Re: Proof bodybuilding isn't a sport
« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2008, 02:30:44 PM »
Why would they? That's like taking bets on WWE matches.....

Maybe that is why Dex won this year...the IFBB is trying to get sports betting places to take pro bodybuilding seriously and start setting odds and taking bets.   ;D

Actually, I think you can bet on just about anything with bookies can't you?  They even will take bets on who will win the Oscars or the Miss America Pageant or even the Presidential election.  (See http://www.sportsbook.com/betting/2008+Presidential+Election-betting-odds-754.html for the last one.)  Hell, they even have odds on who will win Dancing with the Stars:  http://www.gambling911.com/entertainment/dancing-stars-betting-odds-september-29-2008-092908.html.

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Re: Proof bodybuilding isn't a sport
« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2008, 02:34:47 PM »
Not to mention that "drugs" rule this "sport" Earl. ESPN nor any Sports network wants to televise "sports" that are directly and undoubtedly enhanced by drugs.

Last Time I checked, ESPN used do a lot of coverage of bbing contests. Even had workout programs and American Muscle TV show, that was back a the height of The Great Physiques in the 90's...and they didn't have a problem with drugs back then

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Re: Proof bodybuilding isn't a sport
« Reply #9 on: September 29, 2008, 03:12:42 PM »
Last Time I checked, ESPN used do a lot of coverage of bbing contests. Even had workout programs and American Muscle TV show, that was back a the height of The Great Physiques in the 90's...and they didn't have a problem with drugs back then

I think the presence of drugs in bodybuilding has less to do with it than the types of bodies that the overuse of drugs has created.  The pros today are too damn huge and not many people want to look like them.  Pro bodybuilding in the 90s killed any mass appeal that bodybuilding attained from Arnold and Pumping Iron.  The common joe who workouts wants to look more like the guys in Men's Fitness and Maximum Fitness than the huge pros in Flex and Musclemag International.

And the subject of posing suits that show off the glutes that comes up on Getbig from time-to-time, is also something that ESPN and other cable channels probably want to avoid.  The only channel that is going to bring back bodybuilding, unfortunately, is the gay cable channel.

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Re: Proof bodybuilding isn't a sport
« Reply #10 on: September 29, 2008, 04:41:18 PM »
It has nothing to do with anything other than numbers......we don't have big enough numbers to substanciate the TV time.  End of story....

It's al about the ratings..

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Re: Proof bodybuilding isn't a sport
« Reply #11 on: September 29, 2008, 06:21:57 PM »
Last Time I checked, ESPN used do a lot of coverage of bbing contests. Even had workout programs and American Muscle TV show, that was back a the height of The Great Physiques in the 90's...and they didn't have a problem with drugs back then
"THEN" is the key word here. Past checks don't pay future bills. Steroids, while IMO aren't a big deal, to the media listening public it is and ESPN, etc. listens to their audience.

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Re: Proof bodybuilding isn't a sport
« Reply #12 on: September 29, 2008, 06:24:44 PM »
It has nothing to do with anything other than numbers......we don't have big enough numbers to substanciate the TV time.  End of story....

It's al about the ratings..
But Bob that's the point. BB contests are boring and don't appeal to mainstream America. Hell even Equestrian events and Dog shows are more acceptable than BB contests.

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Re: Proof bodybuilding isn't a sport
« Reply #13 on: September 29, 2008, 06:38:34 PM »
But Bob that's the point. BB contests are boring and don't appeal to mainstream America. Hell even Equestrian events and Dog shows are more acceptable than BB contests.

Which is exactly what I just said....

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Re: Proof bodybuilding isn't a sport
« Reply #14 on: September 29, 2008, 06:47:49 PM »
Which is exactly what I just said....

I would rather watch ice fishing, a backward marathon run by 70y/o midgets, a nascar rain delay, hell I would even watch a contest of who can blink first before attending a BB show.
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Re: Proof bodybuilding isn't a sport
« Reply #15 on: September 29, 2008, 06:59:06 PM »
I would rather watch ice fishing, a backward marathon run by 70y/o midgets, a nascar rain delay, hell I would even watch a contest of who can blink first before attending a BB show.

Strange statement on this particular board  ???

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Re: Proof bodybuilding isn't a sport
« Reply #16 on: September 29, 2008, 07:19:38 PM »
95% of the "posing routines" were gay g4p pop-locking ass-shaking dancing stripping to r&b crap.
Bodybuilding needs more Dennis Wolfs and less Toney Freemans if they want to broaden its appeal.
fuck off m8, Toney braught the house down. Dont be mad your gild gotwet from Toney's ass shake.

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Re: Proof bodybuilding isn't a sport
« Reply #17 on: September 29, 2008, 07:30:42 PM »
fuck off m8, Toney braught the house down. Dont be mad your gild gotwet from Toney's ass shake.

You contribute to bodybuilding's downfall.

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Re: Proof bodybuilding isn't a sport
« Reply #18 on: September 30, 2008, 03:32:27 AM »
Which is exactly what I just said....
I'm saying even small boring venues like dog shows, spelling bees and equestrian events (which are even sports events really) overtake the BB shows on ESPN, etc. Really sad.

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Re: Proof bodybuilding isn't a sport
« Reply #19 on: September 30, 2008, 04:56:44 AM »
2008 No More Proof Needed.

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Re: Proof bodybuilding isn't a sport
« Reply #20 on: September 30, 2008, 05:11:55 AM »
2008 No More Proof Needed.
Thanks for that  ???

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Re: Proof bodybuilding isn't a sport
« Reply #21 on: September 30, 2008, 06:03:23 AM »
I think the presence of drugs in bodybuilding has less to do with it than the types of bodies that the overuse of drugs has created.  The pros today are too damn huge and not many people want to look like them.  Pro bodybuilding in the 90s killed any mass appeal that bodybuilding attained from Arnold and Pumping Iron.  The common joe who workouts wants to look more like the guys in Men's Fitness and Maximum Fitness than the huge pros in Flex and Musclemag International.

And the subject of posing suits that show off the glutes that comes up on Getbig from time-to-time, is also something that ESPN and other cable channels probably want to avoid.  The only channel that is going to bring bodybuilding, unfortunately, is the gay cable channel.

Bodybuilding didn’t get any “mass appeal” from Arnold and Pumping Iron. The same “EWWW!!! That’s gross!!!” comments you get from someone who see today’s bodybuilders you would get from someone in the 70s, if they saw pics of Arnold in his prime.

Heck, last year, when I bought the issue of IronMan, celebrating Arnold’s 60th birthday, the cashier took one look at the cover and gave her unsoliticed opinion, “That’s nasty!!!”. That cover is a (color) pic of Arnold Schwarzenegger, NOT Ronnie Coleman, NOT Jay Cutler, NOT Dexter Jackson.

And, you'd get the same reaction from showing photos of sub-200-lb bodybuilders like Shawn Ray (late 80s/early 90s) and Lee Labrada. Only one Mr. Olympia, of which I'm aware, has been used  to endorse some fitness gizmo on an infomercial. That was Frank Zane, with the Torso Trak. They announced Zane as a 3-time Mr. Universe. When showing his picture, they highlight his Mr. Universe wins, while listing his 3 Mr. Olympia wins in much smaller letters.

Of course, when they show Zane actually using the Torso Trak, he is much smaller (since he's been retired for two decades). Zane, in his prime, would have been considered to big and too "gross".


Last Time I checked, ESPN used do a lot of coverage of bbing contests. Even had workout programs and American Muscle TV show, that was back a the height of The Great Physiques in the 90's...and they didn't have a problem with drugs back then.


They did show “American Muscle” and even some bodybuilding contests. However, 90 percent of the time, those were shown at 2 or 3 am. The contests were truncated and they were aired 4-6 months after they went down. As the internet became more prominent in the mid/late 90s, that formula simply didn't work very well.

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Re: Proof bodybuilding isn't a sport
« Reply #22 on: September 30, 2008, 06:11:24 AM »
It has nothing to do with anything other than numbers......we don't have big enough numbers to substanciate the TV time.  End of story....

It's al about the ratings..

Wrong since it wont take more than 10 seconds just to say who won the contest on any sport related show.

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Re: Proof bodybuilding isn't a sport
« Reply #23 on: September 30, 2008, 06:18:00 AM »
After the Mr. Olympia, described by many pro bodybuilders as the 'Superbowl of Bodybuilding, there isn't a single news article mentioning Dex's win over Jay.  If bodybuilding was a sport, you'd think that someone would report an upset like that.

Yeah shit, Squash isn't a sport either.

I do think that just because it isn't recognised (much more obvious illegal drug use) doesn't mean it's not a sport. Bull fighting isn't a recognised sport in this country. I don't know, people are gay.

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Re: Proof bodybuilding isn't a sport
« Reply #24 on: September 30, 2008, 06:19:10 AM »
Yeah shit, Squash isn't a sport either.

I do think that just because it isn't recognised (much more obvious illegal drug use) doesn't mean it's not a sport. Bull fighting isn't a recognised sport in this country. I don't know, people are gay.

Squash is a vegetable.

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