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Re: I disagree with Ron Paul
« Reply #50 on: August 19, 2011, 12:29:11 PM »
I think Glass Steagal should be reinstated but even then, I don't know if it would be enough. If RP could speak more of this I would love to listen.
I would also like to hear more on this in general from Ron Paul.  It's one of those questions I don't hear him get asked.  He comments on it here and there.  Regardless, if this is my major problem with Paul, I'm good with that.  From what I get, he's against all regulation.

There needs to be serious regulation reform across the board so that innovation and small business is not stopped or hurt imo.  There's a lot of people that flat out believe that means just get rid of it all, but that's naive.  Business will be happy to do the most unscrupulous shit if you let them and they don't care how many get fucked along the way or down the road.

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Re: I disagree with Ron Paul
« Reply #51 on: August 19, 2011, 12:37:36 PM »
I would also like to hear more on this in general from Ron Paul.  It's one of those questions I don't hear him get asked.  He comments on it here and there.  Regardless, if this is my major problem with Paul, I'm good with that.  From what I get, he's against all regulation.

There needs to be serious regulation reform across the board so that innovation and small business is not stopped or hurt imo.  There's a lot of people that flat out believe that means just get rid of it all, but that's naive.  Business will be happy to do the most unscrupulous shit if you let them and they don't care how many get fucked along the way or down the road.



I found this. He talks about it at 2:50. This is over a year old.
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Re: I disagree with Ron Paul
« Reply #52 on: August 19, 2011, 12:44:54 PM »
I would also like to hear more on this in general from Ron Paul.  It's one of those questions I don't hear him get asked.  He comments on it here and there.  Regardless, if this is my major problem with Paul, I'm good with that.  From what I get, he's against all regulation.

There needs to be serious regulation reform across the board so that innovation and small business is not stopped or hurt imo.  There's a lot of people that flat out believe that means just get rid of it all, but that's naive.  Business will be happy to do the most unscrupulous shit if you let them and they don't care how many get fucked along the way or down the road.

I also thought this was interesting from Peter Schiff:

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Re: I disagree with Ron Paul
« Reply #53 on: August 19, 2011, 12:57:06 PM »


I found this. He talks about it at 2:50. This is over a year old.
yea, that is a little naive imo.  I get what he's saying and in theory it's the right notion but it doesn't and won't work out that way.  These bankers don't give a flying rats ass about what they'll be held accountable to by the free market.  They'll go balls to the wall in the moment.  If one banks starts doing it, then another, the rest sure in the hell won't worry about future consequences, they'll jump on it too.  When the game is this big, I have no problems with a few good guidlines in place that ensure the players don't bring us all down.

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Re: I disagree with Ron Paul
« Reply #54 on: August 19, 2011, 12:59:06 PM »
yea, that is a little naive imo.  I get what he's saying and in theory it's the right notion but it doesn't and won't work out that way.  These bankers don't give a flying rats ass about what they'll be held accountable to by the free market.  They'll go balls to the wall in the moment.  If one banks starts doing it, then another, the rest sure in the hell won't worry about future consequences, they'll jump on it too.  When the game is this big, I have no problems with a few good guidlines in place that ensure the players don't bring us all down.

Well, as you said, you can't agree with RP on everything; I think there are one or two things I don't agree about either but they are not on the top of the list and overall he would do much good for the country, more good than ill in any event.
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Re: I disagree with Ron Paul
« Reply #55 on: August 19, 2011, 01:04:35 PM »
Well, as you said, you can't agree with RP on everything; I think there are one or two things I don't agree about either but they are not on the top of the list and overall he would do much good for the country, more good than ill in any event.
How, when he won`t have a supportive Congress, especially if he Vetoes everything like he claims he would do?

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Re: I disagree with Ron Paul
« Reply #56 on: August 19, 2011, 01:07:36 PM »
Well, as you said, you can't agree with RP on everything; I think there are one or two things I don't agree about either but they are not on the top of the list and overall he would do much good for the country, more good than ill in any event.
yea, it's not a big deal.  At the time I made this thread, I acutally thought it was odd that I had a major thing I didn't agree with so I posted it.  If 3333 wants to bump everything else I said about ron paul from the same time and ealier, he's going to find I like almost everything else about Paul.

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Re: I disagree with Ron Paul
« Reply #57 on: August 19, 2011, 01:09:06 PM »
How, when he won`t have a supportive Congress, especially if he Vetoes everything like he claims he would do?
where did Paul say he would veto everything?  You still have not got back to me on that other claim you made either.

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Re: I disagree with Ron Paul
« Reply #58 on: August 19, 2011, 01:14:13 PM »
yea, it's not a big deal.  At the time I made this thread, I acutally thought it was odd that I had a major thing I didn't agree with so I posted it.  If 3333 wants to bump everything else I said about ron paul from the same time and ealier, he's going to find I like almost everything else about Paul.

Don't worry Bro - Palin looks like she is running and when she wins you can bump my Palin threads. 


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Re: I disagree with Ron Paul
« Reply #59 on: August 19, 2011, 01:20:41 PM »
you can bump my Palin threads.  


why?

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Re: I disagree with Ron Paul
« Reply #60 on: August 19, 2011, 01:21:30 PM »
where did Paul say he would veto everything?  You still have not got back to me on that other claim you made either.
Isn`t his name Dr. No?  Based on his Congressional record, I`d say its a safe bet he would act the same.

Also, I was unable to find the Youtube video where he talked about the Post Office.  If I come across it, I will surely post it.  I would like to know if he supports closing it down, (which he can`t due to the Constitution) and letting the Private Sector high-jack our mail system.

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Re: I disagree with Ron Paul
« Reply #61 on: August 19, 2011, 01:25:09 PM »
3333, are you going on another bump rampage?  Is there a point?  You're what, trying to show I voted for Obama like everyone already doesn't know that?  I'm glad you bumped this as I wanted to bump it at some point anyway.  But what's your point on the other bumps?  Everyone already knows this shit.  I have not tried to hide it lol...

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Re: I disagree with Ron Paul
« Reply #62 on: August 19, 2011, 01:27:02 PM »
3333, are you going on another bump rampage?  Is there a point?  You're what, trying to show I voted for Obama like everyone already doesn't know that?  I'm glad you bumped this as I wanted to bump it at some point anyway.  But what's your point on the other bumps?  Everyone already knows this shit.  I have not tried to hide it lol...

I was trying to find your yippikaiiiiiiii thread and found a few gems in the process.   


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Re: I disagree with Ron Paul
« Reply #63 on: August 19, 2011, 01:28:38 PM »
Isn`t his name Dr. No?  Based on his Congressional record, I`d say its a safe bet he would act the same.

Also, I was unable to find the Youtube video where he talked about the Post Office.  If I come across it, I will surely post it.  I would like to know if he supports closing it down, (which he can`t due to the Constitution) and letting the Private Sector high-jack our mail system.
You were unable to find the video of him saying he would abolish the USPS because it does not excist.  That's not what he said about the USPS.  He's said plenty on it and it's nothing about abolishing it.  So you made a false statement to me about that, end of story.

And you just made another false statement by saying Paul said he would just veto everything.  He never said that.  Don't say he said shit he never said.  If you speculate he would do something, then state it that way.

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Re: I disagree with Ron Paul
« Reply #64 on: August 19, 2011, 01:31:42 PM »
I was trying to find your yippikaiiiiiiii thread and found a few gems in the process.   


I think I locked that thread after the 5th or so time you bumped it with a dozen others in one of your many bump rampages.  Still don't know what your point is.  Everyone knows I voted for Obama and everyone knows I was happy AT THAT TIME to keep Bush and the neocon agenda from a third term.

At one point I even offered to sticky that fucking thread for you if you stopped going on mass bump campaigns.

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Re: I disagree with Ron Paul
« Reply #65 on: August 19, 2011, 01:33:00 PM »
I think I locked that thread after the 5th or so time you bumped it with a dozen others in one of your many bump rampages.  Still don't know what your point is.  Everyone knows I voted for Obama and everyone knows I was happy AT THAT TIME to keep Bush and the neocon agenda from a third term.

At one point I even offered to sticky that fucking thread for you if you stopped going on mass bump campaigns.

LMFAO.  Sand in your twat again? 

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Re: I disagree with Ron Paul
« Reply #66 on: August 19, 2011, 01:37:05 PM »
LMFAO.  Sand in your twat again? 
::)  You're the one melting down over the fact that I voted for Obama and still would over McCain.  You're the one that's gone on a dozen or more bump rampages over it.  You're clearly the one with sand in your clit over it.  I'm just asking what your point is?  You feel you have to make it every few months so you're clearly very upset over it.

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Re: I disagree with Ron Paul
« Reply #67 on: August 19, 2011, 01:39:16 PM »
::)  You're the one melting down over the fact that I voted for Obama and still would over McCain.  You're the one that's gone on a dozen or more bump rampages over it.  You're clearly the one with sand in your clit over it.  I'm just asking what your point is?  You feel you have to make it every few months so you're clearly very upset over it.

You would vote for Obama again? 


OMG.   ha ha ha - you are so far gone its not funny. 

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Re: I disagree with Ron Paul
« Reply #68 on: August 19, 2011, 01:45:35 PM »
You were unable to find the video of him saying he would abolish the USPS because it does not excist.  That's not what he said about the USPS.  He's said plenty on it and it's nothing about abolishing it.  So you made a false statement to me about that, end of story.

And you just made another false statement by saying Paul said he would just veto everything.  He never said that.  Don't say he said shit he never said.  If you speculate he would do something, then state it that way.
Please post what he says about the Post Office.  Where is all of this "plentiful" information you speak of?  ???

I am judging by his Congressional Record and by the fact that he lives up to the name, Dr. No.

So how about that Post Office information.  I`d love to see what he says on it.  The only video I remember was from C-Span 4 years ago and I cannot find it.  Where is your information?

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Re: I disagree with Ron Paul
« Reply #69 on: August 19, 2011, 01:53:24 PM »
You would vote for Obama again? 


OMG.   ha ha ha - you are so far gone its not funny. 
Yea, I would vote for Obama again.  That is to say if I went back in time and had the vote to do over, I would still not vote for McCain.  I also do this with the same knowledge that my vote didn't matter.  I didn't help Obama get elected with my vote.  I knew that the first time and nothing would change if I could go back and do it again.  You seem to keep forgetting that I voted in Wyoming and knew before that vote that the state would go to McCain in a landslide.  Mickey Mouse probably got more votes in Wyoming than Obama did lol...

Today, I don't think Obama is a good president.  But funny as you may find it, I don't think McSame would have been any different.  Sure on some things he would have but I'm sure he would have made up for it in other areas of bad.

I seriously believe today the only way you're going to see any positive real difference in a good way is to vote for Ron Paul.

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Re: I disagree with Ron Paul
« Reply #70 on: August 19, 2011, 01:57:58 PM »
what's ron paul's stance of punching hookers in the mouth with a roll of quarters?

pro- or anti- ?

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Re: I disagree with Ron Paul
« Reply #71 on: August 19, 2011, 02:09:46 PM »
Yea, I would vote for Obama again.  That is to say if I went back in time and had the vote to do over, I would still not vote for McCain.  I also do this with the same knowledge that my vote didn't matter.  I didn't help Obama get elected with my vote.  I knew that the first time and nothing would change if I could go back and do it again.  You seem to keep forgetting that I voted in Wyoming and knew before that vote that the state would go to McCain in a landslide.  Mickey Mouse probably got more votes in Wyoming than Obama did lol...

Today, I don't think Obama is a good president.  But funny as you may find it, I don't think McSame would have been any different.  Sure on some things he would have but I'm sure he would have made up for it in other areas of bad.

I seriously believe today the only way you're going to see any positive real difference in a good way is to vote for Ron Paul.
I still don`t see how as not many in Congress are on the same page as Paul.  How will he dictate his agenda if nobody hardly supports him in Congress right now?

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Re: I disagree with Ron Paul
« Reply #72 on: August 19, 2011, 02:16:33 PM »
I still don`t see how as not many in Congress are on the same page as Paul.  How will he dictate his agenda if nobody hardly supports him in Congress right now?

He does need the help of Congress to get his agenda through, but he only needs the veto pen to stop legislation he disagrees with. 

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Re: I disagree with Ron Paul
« Reply #73 on: August 19, 2011, 02:45:48 PM »
Please post what he says about the Post Office.  Where is all of this "plentiful" information you speak of?  ???

I am judging by his Congressional Record and by the fact that he lives up to the name, Dr. No.

So how about that Post Office information.  I`d love to see what he says on it.  The only video I remember was from C-Span 4 years ago and I cannot find it.  Where is your information?
I'll look for it again, but he thinks the USPS is a monopoly.  He says of monopolies, "I would not outlaw them if the free market were allowed to operate" I think that means he would want open competition for the post office.  Nowhere has he said anything about outright abolishing the USPS. As strickly as he follows the constitution, it would be hypocritical of him to say Congress does not have the rights in this area granted to it.  There's another video where he is critical of tactics used by the post office to keep their monopoly.  Nowhere in that talk did he talk about abolishing the USPS.

And if you're going to make statements on your judgement, word it like that, don't say that's what he said.

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Re: I disagree with Ron Paul
« Reply #74 on: August 19, 2011, 02:50:16 PM »
He does need the help of Congress to get his agenda through, but he only needs the veto pen to stop legislation he disagrees with. 
If he can`t muster up any real Congressional Support from either side, than his Presidency would become a giant disaster.