Why do we have so many stupid and delusional Christians on getbig?

[Butterbean]

Do you think that carbon dating is the only dating method available? The earth is 4.5 billion years old. That is a scientific fact. Welcome to modernity.

Would you say you have "faith" in carbon dating?

[wes mantooth]

So, after viewing our current modern society, you believe man has enough innate good will instilled inside him to avoid anarchy?

yes. the world had rules, regulations, and laws defining moral judgement of societies LONG before the bible came around.

[Eisenherz]

It means that people realize there is more to the world than what the ego clings to.
It's a revelation to the heart, not the mind.

I dont see anything wrong with spirituality. Religion however is the blind leading the blind.

Deicide, why do you even bother telling them that they are narrow minded and stupid? You cannot speak of the ocean to a frog in a well.

[BlueDevil]

"Those who fear the Lord will hate evil."
Proverbs 8:13

thus, all who do not fear the Lord do not truly hate evil
THINK ABOUT THIS!!!

[Deicide]

fact and theory are different.  4.5 billion is theory.  What other aging method do they have that is accurate to 4.5 billion years?

Superposition
Stratigraphy
Dendrochronology
Radiocarbon C14
Radiometric Dating Methods
Obsidian Hydration Dating
Paleomagnetic/Archaeomagnetic
Luminescence Dating Methods
Amino Acid Racemization
Fission-track Dating
Ice Cores
Varves
Pollens
Corals
Cation Ratio
Fluorine Dating
Patination
Oxidizable Carbon Ratio
Electron Spin Resonance
Cosmic-ray Exposure Dating

More than your ignorant ass can count.

[wes mantooth]

You can dress it up anyway you want Wienerschnitzel, but there is no evidence that anything other than matter and energy exist; the 'heart' is merely a confluence of physical and biochemical mechanisms and ceases to exist when these functions grind to a halt. Even in your dressed up form, it is simply wishful thinking on your part.

agreed. the fact that it is "heart felt"....or to even imply the man has a "soul" is ridiculous.

[Deicide]

Would you say you have "faith" in carbon dating?

See list of the multitude of dating methods.

[Eisenherz]

"Those who fear the Lord will hate evil."
Proverbs 8:13

thus, all who do not fear the Lord do not truly hate evil
THINK ABOUT THIS!!!

" Jesus loves me yes i know, for the bible tells me so.."

[BlueDevil]

Pollens
 

complete and utter crap, ask goodrum

[Deicide]

I dont see anything wrong with spirituality. Religion however is the blind leading the blind.

Deicide, why do you even bother telling them that they are narrow minded and stupid? You cannot speak of the ocean to a frog in a well.

That's true, but ignorance should be combatted nonetheless.

[Butterbean]

See list of the multitude of dating methods.

So you believe those dating methods to be accurate?  If so, why? 

[wes mantooth]

"Those who fear the Lord will hate evil."
Proverbs 8:13

thus, all who do not fear the Lord do not truly hate evil
THINK ABOUT THIS!!!

respect and admiration through fear....HMMMM. sounds like the mob.

i thought we were supposed to love.....now were supposed to fear.

[dustin]

Superposition
Stratigraphy
Dendrochronology
Radiocarbon C14
Radiometric Dating Methods
Obsidian Hydration Dating
Paleomagnetic/Archaeomagnetic
Luminescence Dating Methods
Amino Acid Racemization
Fission-track Dating
Ice Cores
Varves
Pollens
Corals
Cation Ratio
Fluorine Dating
Patination
Oxidizable Carbon Ratio
Electron Spin Resonance
Cosmic-ray Exposure Dating

More than your ignorant ass can count.

Bingo. I was just going to sputter off things like the pollens found in ice cores, corals, ESR, etc... beat me to the punch and brought fourth many other methods of dating that I didn't even know of. There's no fucking doubting it. The earth is 4 billion years old. How can anyone argue otherwise? If they do argue otherwise and they're genuine about their doubts and not just being pessimistic, I feel sorry for them.

Blind faith in science or religion is bad... but I mean, c'mon. We have facts, they have faith. I'm going to err on the side of caution and go with cold, hard, facts. But again, if I'm wrong I want a welcome package that includes an instruction booklet, a Bible that's updated for 2009, a secret decoder ring and assurance that I'm not going to burn in hell for all eternity. Until then, I'm not holding my breath.

[wavelength]

You can dress it up anyway you want Wienerschnitzel, but there is no evidence that anything other than matter and energy exist; the 'heart' is merely a confluence of physical and biochemical mechanisms and ceases to exist when these functions grind to a halt. Even in your dressed up form, it is simply wishful thinking on your part.

Has all been discussed and proven wrong long ago.
Same arguments, same pseudo-philosophic trap again and again.
The force of reincarnation is strong in this one.

[BlueDevil]

respect and admiration through fear....HMMMM. sounds like the mob.

i thought we were supposed to love.....now were supposed to fear.

"Blessed are those who fear to sin, but the stubborn are headed for serious trouble."
Proverbs 28:14

[wavelength]

agreed. the fact that it is "heart felt"....or to even imply the man has a "soul" is ridiculous.

And why would that be ridiculous?

[wes mantooth]

"Blessed are those who fear to sin, but the stubborn are headed for serious trouble."
Proverbs 28:14

quote all you want blue........

heres one for you:
""I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours."
-- Stephen Roberts

[BlueDevil]

quote all you want blue........

heres one for you:
""I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours."
-- Stephen Roberts

"Ye of little intellect, REPENT"

blue 10:01

[Eisenherz]

Has all been discussed and proven wrong long ago.
Same arguments, same pseudo-philosphic trap again and again.
The force of reincarnation is strong in this one.

Wavelength, Deicide is right on this one. Matter and energy is all that exists in our reality. However does that mean thats all that does exist?

[wes mantooth]

And why would that be ridiculous?

something coming from "the heart" is a feeling....an emotion. the "soul" is nothing more than a label encompassing all feelings.....an immaterial essence per se...

its merely a broad stroke of description...which has been translated into an invisible part of the human that is supposed to float up to heaven or sink to hell. that is ridiculous

[Deicide]

So you believe those dating methods to be accurate?  If so, why? 

I have read enough to understand the principles of most of them, moreover, there would be no geology, biology, chemistry or physics if many of these methods were ineffective. Take Fission Tracking Dating for example:

Fission-track dating is one type of radioactive dating method used by archaeologists to determine the thermal age of artifacts containing uranium-bearing minerals. Fission tracks are created at a constant rate throughout time so that from the number of tracks present it is possible to determine the amount of time that has past since the track accumulation began. Dates from anywhere between twenty to one thousand million years ago can be determined with this particular technique.

Many principles of modern physics are based on this.

I am sorry to say, you are woefully ignorant Stella; you have neither an interest nor a desire to learn about science, rather you prefer ancient mythology written by desert goat herders, which you believe on no evidence whatsoever other than the doctrinal whip that was applied to your mind in your youth when you were brainwashed.

[wavelength]

Wavelength, Deicide is right on this one. Matter and energy is all that exists in our reality. However does that mean thats all that does exist?

All depends on what you mean by it. What is matter and energy?

[Deicide]

Has all been discussed and proven wrong long ago.
Same arguments, same pseudo-philosophic trap again and again.
The force of reincarnation is strong in this one.

Wienerschnitzel, you are the one spouting pseudo-philosphic gibberish, which you disguise as 'logic'.

[Deicide]

All depends on what you mean by it. What is matter and energy?

Both measurable quantities of things which exist; that is what they are. Why aren't you jumping on the Dumb Fundy Bandwagon and claiming that the many dating methods scientists use are wrong?

[wavelength]

something coming from "the heart" is a feeling....an emotion. the "soul" is nothing more than a label encompassing all feelings.....an immaterial essence per se...

Yes of course, it's a flowery description of something which however is much more powerful than what is commonly meant by a "feeling".

its merely a broad stroke of description...which has been translated into an invisible part of the human that is supposed to float up to heaven or sink to hell. that is ridiculous

That I agree to 100%