All the shit ones.
J....
lol... actually how tall is samir?
and gaspari gave haney a run for his money for a few years- how tall is he?
and then we have labrada- who shouldve won it twice but it got awarded to a big ugly pile of muscle.
using this very same argument- how come schlierkamp wasnt awarded the mr.o?- the years he was on he certainly "brought it" to the stage and at 6'6" or something had enough size..
as i recall he did actually beat big ron back in the day when Ron was still considered unbeatable.
i think the message is that alot of judging has to do with history..and judges find it hard to break from what has been done before rather than put on a fresh pair of glasses each year and truly mark the scorecards according to the tenets of BB.
The other factor is the score cards themselves. The 3 "rounds" arent setup properly as they reward a competitor for the same aspect over and over again.
Like when Milos pointed out that Jay beat Dex in each of the symmetry rounds, or was that Ron...anyway, doesnt matter- the sport has many instances of scorecards showing this very same thing.
if joe public was given the BB scoring brief, there's no way that he'd have the nicer looking package come out behind the ugly one. But judges manage to do it each year.
Then we have the comparison round. If you order it youll notice that this gets ranked in order of size first, then tweaked for aesthetics. The huge guy generally wins the comparisons as when you put one huge guy next to a short guy, everyone goes "wah".
So why didnt Gunter win then?...
So we have these compulsories, then the routine, then the compulsories again but this time next to others..
The rounds need to be "weighted". The emphasis needs to be on how pleasing a physique is, so the alone compulsories and routine have the most weight. The comparisons should be used to split those athletes who may be close on the card.
the way it is today is that equal weight applies to each round, and that means a guy can rank lowly on his own yet still win the show as he blows everyone away in size.
take the results card from the 2003 mr.o
apply weighting to the individual posing rounds, lets say, 5 for the compulsories, 1 for the routine (as its basically a re-run of the compulsories), and a 2 for the comparisons.
we get Big Ron scoring 40
Jay gets 80
Dex gets 125 (note that Jay and Ron beat Dex in the individual compulsories)
James gets 157
This is a great example showing that BB judging is a mess.
suppose dex and James out post Jay in the first and second rounds..
the scores could be
Dex = 90
Jay = 135
James = 140.
this is simply by weighting aesthetics more than size.
and so on..ive written enough.
