Bailout passes Senate, list of votes.

[Bindare_Dundat]

Despite a loud voice of "No'" from the public the bailout got passed.

List of votes.

Akaka (D-HI), Y
Alexander (R-TN), Y
Allard (R-CO), N
Barrasso (R-WY), N
Baucus (D-MT), Y
Bayh (D-IN), Y
Bennett (R-UT), Y
Biden (D-DE), Y
Bingaman (D-NM), Y
Bond (R-MO), Y
Boxer (D-CA), Y
Brown (D-OH), Y
Brownback (R-KS), N
Bunning (R-KY), N
Burr (R-NC), Y
Byrd (D-WV), Y
Cantwell (D-WA), N
Cardin (D-MD), Y
Carper (D-DE), Y
Casey (D-PA), Y
Chambliss (R-GA), Y
Clinton (D-NY), Y
Coburn (R-OK), Y
Cochran (R-MS), N
Coleman (R-MN), Y
Collins (R-ME), Y
Conrad (D-ND), Y
Corker (R-TN), Y
Cornyn (R-TX), Y
Craig (R-ID), Y
Crapo (R-ID), N
DeMint (R-SC), N
Dodd (D-CT), Y
Dole (R-NC), N
Domenici (R-NM), Y
Dorgan (D-ND), N
Durbin (D-IL), Y
Ensign (R-NV), Y
Enzi (R-WY), N
Feingold (D-WI), N
Feinstein (D-CA), Y
Graham (R-SC), Y
Grassley (R-IA), Y
Gregg (R-NH), Y
Hagel (R-NE), Y
Harkin (D-IA), Y
Hatch (R-UT), Y
Hutchison (R-TX), Y
Inhofe (R-OK), N
Inouye (D-HI), Y
Isakson (R-GA), Y
Johnson (D-SD), N
Kennedy (D-MA),
Kerry (D-MA), Y
Klobuchar (D-MN), Y
Kohl (D-WI), Y
Kyl (R-AZ), Y
Landrieu (D-LA), N
Lautenberg (D-NJ), Y
Leahy (D-VT), Y
Levin (D-MI), Y
Lieberman (ID-CT), Y
Lincoln (D-AR), Y
Lugar (R-IN), Y
Martinez (R-FL), Y
McCain (R-AZ), Y
McCaskill (D-MO), Y
McConnell (R-KY), Y
Menendez (D-NJ), Y
Mikulski (D-MD), Y
Murkowski (R-AK), Y
Murray (D-WA), Y
Nelson (D-FL), N
Nelson (D-NE), Y
Obama (D-IL), Y
Pryor (D-AR), Y
Reed (D-RI), Y
Reid (D-NV), Y
Roberts (R-KS), N
Rockefeller (D-WV), Y
Salazar (D-CO), Y
Sanders (I-VT), N
Schumer (D-NY), Y
Sessions (R-AL), N
Shelby (R-AL), N
Smith (R-OR), Y
Snowe (R-ME), Y
Specter (R-PA), Y
Stabenow (D-MI), N
Stevens (R-AK), Y
Sununu (R-NH), Y
Tester (D-MT), N
Thune (R-SD), Y
Vitter (R-LA), N
Voinovich (R-OH), Y
Warner (R-VA), Y
Webb (D-VA), Y
Whitehouse (D-RI), Y
Wicker (R-MS), Y
Wyden (D-OR), N

[Busted]

Now the house has to pass it... The Senate voted first this time...

[Buffgeek]

You guys should see what was added to this POS.... You all would be apalled.

[Hugo Chavez]

You guys should see what was added to this POS.... You all would be apalled.

post it.

[Buffgeek]

I am trying to find the specifics:

Here is an overview of what happened to day. they briefly mention some of the changes. gimme sec

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20081001/D93HV16O0.html

[Hugo Chavez]

I just heard they had to load it up with pork to get enough republicans to sign it.

I think they should have bailed out the people instead, save the pork chops, but that's just the pinko commie bastard in me coming out

[Buffgeek]

I just heard they had to load it up with pork to get enough republicans to sign it.

I think they should have bailed out the people instead, save the pork chops, but that's just the pinko commie bastard in me coming out

I dont think anyone should be bailed out. I keep hearing these sob stories of people who bought houses they could not afford, or bought a house took all the equity out then BOOM your variable rate goes up and your house is now worth less than you bought it for or you are upside down. so many stories of someone who got into a house with a boyfriend then he left her so now she is stuck with the house

WHY SHOULD WE PAY FOR PEOPLES BAD CHOICES!

So these guys have to rent now... oh well.

[Hugo Chavez]

I dont think anyone should be bailed out. I keep hearing these sob stories of people who bought houses they could not afford, or bought a house took all the equity out then BOOM your variable rate goes up and your house is now worth less than you bought it for or you are upside down. so many stories of someone who got into a house with a boyfriend then he left her so now she is stuck with the house

WHY SHOULD WE PAY FOR PEOPLES BAD CHOICES!

So these guys have to rent now... oh well.

I knew that would make you happy   If there has to be a bailout, I'd rather the people got bailed out, sorry.

[Buffgeek]

I knew that would make you happy   If there has to be a bailout, I'd rather the people got bailed out, sorry.

No I actually agree to an extent. If we are going to spend tax payer dollars I would rather it go to the people, but unfortnuetly due to this cluster, it has to go to the fraudulently run organizations that our gov allowed to get out of control. Now people's retirement and investments are at risk and we risk a run on our banks due to a lack of liquidity in the markets.

I just dont like paying for other people's bad choices. I came from nothing and have made a decent life for my family. The american dream is alive and well, you just have to bust your ass.

The other thing I would mention is that 50% of americans are already footing the bill for the other 50%. 

700 billion is like each american infant and elderly paying $2333.

[Bindare_Dundat]

I really stopped caring as to whats in it, all I know is the overwhelming majoity of people don't want it and they should be listening to the people. If no bailout turns into financial disaster than that's what the people have to live with. As always politicians do what they want and say they are doing it for us.

[Busted]

Now the house has to pass it... The Senate voted first this time...

[Bindare_Dundat]

It'll pass. I'll be shocked if it doesn't.

[Colossus_500]

Laura's E-Blast
www.LauraIngraham.com
October 1, 2008

Eight Bailout Questions

How many times over the last few days have we heard politicians, talking heads and other self-proclaimed "experts" tell us the reason the $700 billion bailout is so wildly unpopular is that we just don't understand it. The economy is complicated. Just trust Congress, President Bush and his royal highness, Hank Paulson. They'll fix it. Don't worry about that $700 billion number. It only sounds high.

Well. If that's the case - if we're really too dumb to understand what's happening - perhaps Congress can show us how much they know. To start, here are some questions I'd like answered.

1) Since the White House introduced the bailout last week, a number of alternative ideas have been proposed. For one, Michigan Republican Thaddeus McCotter wrote a 10-point plan that carries no cost to taxpayers. Others, like George Soros', are significantly less expensive and, in his estimation, likelier to be effective. Can you explain why this bill is the best option, despite being the most expensive?

2) We're told the bailout could actually turn a profit for taxpayers. Assuming that's true, how can we be sure the money actually ends up back in taxpayers' hands? For years the Social Security system took in more money than it paid out, yet instead of putting the surplus revenue toward future benefits, Congress snatched that extra cash for general expenditures. Likewise, Fannie and Freddie's "profits," were used for congressional pet projects. With this track record, how can we trust that this program will be any different?

3) The McCain campaign yesterday pointed out that the most recent housing bill gave the government nearly $1 trillion to purchase mortgages. If this is true, why exactly does Congress need to pass this monstrous legislation?

4) Does the latest version of this bill still "allow the government to purchase troubled assets from pension plans, local governments, and small banks that serve low- and middle-income families"? Americans are having a hard enough time swallowing the idea of a bailout for irresponsible home, car, and student lending. The notion that we'll be on the hook for insolvent pension plans administered by awful, union-controlled lawmakers in cities like Detroit and New York is simply insane.

5) Does the bill's preamble still proclaim that the law "provides authority to the treasury secretary to ... ensure the economic well-being of Americans?" Does anyone know if there are limitations to this seemingly unbridled authority? Otherwise, what prevents the Treasury secretary from becoming a de-facto dictator? This strikes me as especially worth discussion.

6) Are there still no meaningful curtailments of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac? Does the bill contain anything even hinting at accountability?

7) What concrete assurances do taxpayers have that the turmoil's provenance - Carter and Clinton-era social-engineering dictums that upended safe-lending practices in favor of higher minority home ownership - will forever be outlawed? How do we know taxpayers won't be asked to finance another $700 billion bailout in 10 years? What has Congress learned from its past mistakes?

After Enron's collapse, former CEO Jeffrey Skilling, then-CEO Ken Lay, and then-CFO Andrew Fastow, were called to testify before Congress. According to the Business and Media Institute, Fannie's and Freddie's overstated earnings were 19 times larger than Enron's fake numbers. So when can we expect Congress to call Jim Johnson, Franklin Raines, Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, and the rest of Fannie's and Freddie's enablers to testify before Congress?

At the end of the day, we're not being asked to bailout Wall St. so much as we are the Democratic Party. For $700 billion, answers to the questions above are the least Congress can do in return.

[loco]

After Enron's collapse, former CEO Jeffrey Skilling, then-CEO Ken Lay, and then-CFO Andrew Fastow, were called to testify before Congress. According to the Business and Media Institute, Fannie's and Freddie's overstated earnings were 19 times larger than Enron's fake numbers. So when can we expect Congress to call Jim Johnson, Franklin Raines, Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, and the rest of Fannie's and Freddie's enablers to testify before Congress?

Good question! 

[240 is Back]

Good old Bob Dole voting against it.

[Colossus_500]

Good question! 

Good ol' CountryWide Chris.   

[egj13]

Everyone with a "N" beside their name for president!!