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« on: October 01, 2008, 08:30:23 PM »
"There is alot of Evidence out there that supports most all of our fatal diseases have been created by Government"
Give your evidence for this

Also you state that "thats what a logical human being does, they dont make up their mind until they know the facts of the matter at hand" but you defend rev. wrights assertion that AIDS was created by the US government to target blacks in america and africa. Please give the info that a logical person would use to come up with a logical outcome that the US created AIDs to target black ppl.

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« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2008, 08:33:05 PM »
on the AIDS thing that was started by the Soviets back in the day.

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« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2008, 08:35:52 PM »
one thing is for sure, we dont have the facts to prove it nor disprove.

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« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2008, 08:40:18 PM »
one thing is for sure, we dont have the facts to prove it nor disprove.
"thats what a logical human being does, they dont make up their mind until they know the facts of the matter at hand" thats what he said...this is what he asserts "There is alot of Evidence out there that supports most all of our fatal diseases have been created by Government"

also defends rev. wrights comments about aids being made and used to target the black community by the US

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« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2008, 08:52:16 PM »
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« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2008, 09:20:16 PM »
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« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2008, 10:29:56 PM »
"There is alot of Evidence out there that supports most all of our fatal diseases have been created by Government"
Give your evidence for this

Also you state that "thats what a logical human being does, they dont make up their mind until they know the facts of the matter at hand" but you defend rev. wrights assertion that AIDS was created by the US government to target blacks in america and africa. Please give the info that a logical person would use to come up with a logical outcome that the US created AIDs to target black ppl.

Men have been having homosexual sex since biblical times.  Why did we all of a sudden have a very deadly disease associated with it?

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« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2008, 10:34:27 PM »
"There is alot of Evidence out there that supports most all of our fatal diseases have been created by Government"
Give your evidence for this

Also you state that "thats what a logical human being does, they dont make up their mind until they know the facts of the matter at hand" but you defend rev. wrights assertion that AIDS was created by the US government to target blacks in america and africa. Please give the info that a logical person would use to come up with a logical outcome that the US created AIDs to target black ppl.

Do you know how to read?

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« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2008, 10:44:57 PM »
Since you cant read.... can someone else explain to him what I said, since he twisted up what i said...

AM I the ONLY person who actually researches things?  As i stated, no compare what TonyMontana CLAIMED I said?  You should be in the McCain CAMPAIGN!!! Like to fudge things up to make you sound better or like yo are PWNING me... You just lost all credibility for getting caught in trying to change my wordings and getting PWNED at the same time...

"but you defend rev. wrights assertion that AIDS was created by the US government to target blacks in america and africa. Please give the info that a logical person would use to come up with a logical outcome that the US created AIDs to target black ppl"I  WHERE DID I SAY THIS?  Please see below what I said... and compare what you just said, are you fucking retarded?

There is alot of Evidence out there that supports most all of our fatal diseases have been created by Government scientists as experiments and for Population control.  Where did i say i AGREED with it? I said there is EVIDENCE. DO you see where I said I did? I dont see where I said i did. I made a statement, and I dont know the 100% FACTS HENCE why I dont have formulated opinion.  I do believe it is 100% possible and isnt as far fetched as people might think so I dont dismiss the claim like you do. If our gov can create biological chemicals for war to melt peoples skin, and collapse their lungs and kill them slowly, they can damn sure create diseases. Its obvious that many Getbiggers lack the mental capacity (TONY MONTANA)to understand anything other than what our media and Government tells us is true.  Even if the facts are right in our faces, so many Americans are so stupid they cant figure it out. (9-11 is a prime example)

Wright is actually a extremely intelligent individual, why don't you research him? hes more qualified to be a VP than Palin is! HA


Medial Apartheid "Medical Apartheid. The Dark History of Medical Experimentation on Black Americans From Colonial Times to the Present. By Harriet A. Washington. 501 pages."
http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/01/24/features/bookjeu.php

Emerging viruses Aids and Ebola "Health professionals and those involved in infectious disease research will find Emerging Viruses startling: Harvard researcher Horowitz's studies gather evidence to conclude that AIDS and the Ebola viruses evolved during cancer virus experiments in which monkeys were infected with viral genes from other animals. Certain to spark controversy, this provides quite a different view of virus mutations and evolution."

Tuskegee Experiment "The most notorious medical experiment in American history was surely the Tuskegee syphilis study, in which 400 black men with syphilis were left untreated for 40 years, from 1932 until 1972, so government doctors could study the course of the disease. The experiment ended only because a journalist exposed it, igniting a firestorm of public outrage over its racism and cruelty. By then, as many as 100 of the men had already died of syphilis."
http://www.tuskegee.edu/Global/Story.asp?s=1207598



By Alan Cantwell, M.D
Mon 31. Mar 2008

There is no doubt that AIDS erupted in the U.S. shortly after government-sponsored hepatitis B vaccine experiments (1978-1981) using gay men as guinea pigs. The epidemic was caused by the “introduction” of a new retrovirus (the human immunodeficiency virus, or HIV for short); and the introduction of a new herpes-8 virus, the virus that causes Kaposi’s sarcoma, widely known as the “gay cancer” of AIDS. The taboo theory that AIDS is a man-made disease is largely based on research showing an intimate connection between government vaccine experiments and the outbreak of “the gay plague”

The widely accepted theory is that HIV/AIDS originated in a monkey or chimpanzee virus that “jumped species” in Africa. However, it is clear that the first AIDS cases were recorded in gay men in Manhattan in 1979, a few years before the epidemic was first noticed in Africa in 1982. It is now claimed that the human herpes-8 virus (also called the KS virus), discovered in 1994, also originated when a primate herpes virus jumped species in Africa. How two African species-jumping viruses ended up exclusively in gay men in Manhattan beginning in the late 1970s has never been satisfactorily explained.

Researchers who claim AIDS is a man-made disease believe it is much more likely that these two primate viruses were introduced and spread during the government’s recruitment of thousands of male homosexuals beginning in 1974. LONG ARTICLE, But well worth the reading!

GO DO SOME RESEARCH....

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« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2008, 11:23:23 PM »
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« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2008, 02:11:18 AM »
I saw a documentary that brought up this question. They instead pointed to a vaccine experiment in Africa, carried out by a polish doctor. Apparently, the vaccine they were using was made out of monkey intestines and that's how the virus came about. This was in the 1960's.
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« Reply #11 on: October 02, 2008, 04:28:16 AM »
Since you cant read.... can someone else explain to him what I said, since he twisted up what i said...

AM I the ONLY person who actually researches things?  As i stated, no compare what TonyMontana CLAIMED I said?  You should be in the McCain CAMPAIGN!!! Like to fudge things up to make you sound better or like yo are PWNING me... You just lost all credibility for getting caught in trying to change my wordings and getting PWNED at the same time...

"but you defend rev. wrights assertion that AIDS was created by the US government to target blacks in america and africa. Please give the info that a logical person would use to come up with a logical outcome that the US created AIDs to target black ppl"I  WHERE DID I SAY THIS?  Please see below what I said... and compare what you just said, are you fucking retarded?

There is alot of Evidence out there that supports most all of our fatal diseases have been created by Government scientists as experiments and for Population control.  Where did i say i AGREED with it? I said there is EVIDENCE. DO you see where I said I did? I dont see where I said i did. I made a statement, and I dont know the 100% FACTS HENCE why I dont have formulated opinion.  I do believe it is 100% possible and isnt as far fetched as people might think so I dont dismiss the claim like you do. If our gov can create biological chemicals for war to melt peoples skin, and collapse their lungs and kill them slowly, they can damn sure create diseases. Its obvious that many Getbiggers lack the mental capacity (TONY MONTANA)to understand anything other than what our media and Government tells us is true.  Even if the facts are right in our faces, so many Americans are so stupid they cant figure it out. (9-11 is a prime example)

Wright is actually a extremely intelligent individual, why don't you research him? hes more qualified to be a VP than Palin is! HA


Medial Apartheid "Medical Apartheid. The Dark History of Medical Experimentation on Black Americans From Colonial Times to the Present. By Harriet A. Washington. 501 pages."
http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/01/24/features/bookjeu.php

Emerging viruses Aids and Ebola "Health professionals and those involved in infectious disease research will find Emerging Viruses startling: Harvard researcher Horowitz's studies gather evidence to conclude that AIDS and the Ebola viruses evolved during cancer virus experiments in which monkeys were infected with viral genes from other animals. Certain to spark controversy, this provides quite a different view of virus mutations and evolution."

Tuskegee Experiment "The most notorious medical experiment in American history was surely the Tuskegee syphilis study, in which 400 black men with syphilis were left untreated for 40 years, from 1932 until 1972, so government doctors could study the course of the disease. The experiment ended only because a journalist exposed it, igniting a firestorm of public outrage over its racism and cruelty. By then, as many as 100 of the men had already died of syphilis."
http://www.tuskegee.edu/Global/Story.asp?s=1207598



By Alan Cantwell, M.D
Mon 31. Mar 2008

There is no doubt that AIDS erupted in the U.S. shortly after government-sponsored hepatitis B vaccine experiments (1978-1981) using gay men as guinea pigs. The epidemic was caused by the “introduction” of a new retrovirus (the human immunodeficiency virus, or HIV for short); and the introduction of a new herpes-8 virus, the virus that causes Kaposi’s sarcoma, widely known as the “gay cancer” of AIDS. The taboo theory that AIDS is a man-made disease is largely based on research showing an intimate connection between government vaccine experiments and the outbreak of “the gay plague”

The widely accepted theory is that HIV/AIDS originated in a monkey or chimpanzee virus that “jumped species” in Africa. However, it is clear that the first AIDS cases were recorded in gay men in Manhattan in 1979, a few years before the epidemic was first noticed in Africa in 1982. It is now claimed that the human herpes-8 virus (also called the KS virus), discovered in 1994, also originated when a primate herpes virus jumped species in Africa. How two African species-jumping viruses ended up exclusively in gay men in Manhattan beginning in the late 1970s has never been satisfactorily explained.

Researchers who claim AIDS is a man-made disease believe it is much more likely that these two primate viruses were introduced and spread during the government’s recruitment of thousands of male homosexuals beginning in 1974. LONG ARTICLE, But well worth the reading!

GO DO SOME RESEARCH....
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« Reply #12 on: October 02, 2008, 04:31:22 AM »
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« Reply #13 on: October 02, 2008, 06:39:07 AM »
LOL you are a fuking idiot first off i gave you the slight possibility of aids in the other thread but you made the post so you back your shit up fuck tard. YOUR POST SAID THAT MOST OF ALL THE DEADLY DISEASES WHERE CREATED BY THE GOVERNMENT LOL and you mentioned AIDS and ebola which can be disputed now please tell me how that constitutes "most of all deadly diseases"

I see so your just cutting and pasting...

Your right you dont know all the facts actually you dont know half the facts or you wouldnt post a stuped ass comment such as that.

LOL there are ppl out there that arent able to make logical decisions even when information is presented to them and there are ppl out there who ignore logical information to persue their own retarted train of thought...

p.s. the government is reading this right now...careful they might put a new virus in your coffee.

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« Reply #14 on: October 02, 2008, 06:42:57 AM »
Men have been having homosexual sex since biblical times.  Why did we all of a sudden have a very deadly disease associated with it?
ppl have been living on earth for billions of years why do you think other deadly diseases came about, syphillis, small pox, the bubonic plague...where they all created by the governments as well?

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« Reply #15 on: October 02, 2008, 07:15:53 AM »
Men have been having homosexual sex since biblical times.  Why did we all of a sudden have a very deadly disease associated with it?


You've never read about the origins of AIDS?

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« Reply #16 on: October 02, 2008, 09:39:14 AM »
Men have been having homosexual sex since biblical times.  Why did we all of a sudden have a very deadly disease associated with it?

Because a gay african man had to have sex with a gorilla that is why.

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« Reply #17 on: October 02, 2008, 10:41:02 AM »
LOL you are a fuking idiot first off i gave you the slight possibility of aids in the other thread but you made the post so you back your shit up fuck tard. YOUR POST SAID THAT MOST OF ALL THE DEADLY DISEASES WHERE CREATED BY THE GOVERNMENT LOL and you mentioned AIDS and ebola which can be disputed now please tell me how that constitutes "most of all deadly diseases"

I see so your just cutting and pasting...

Your right you dont know all the facts actually you dont know half the facts or you wouldnt post a stuped ass comment such as that.

LOL there are ppl out there that arent able to make logical decisions even when information is presented to them and there are ppl out there who ignore logical information to persue their own retarted train of thought...

p.s. the government is reading this right now...careful they might put a new virus in your coffee.

Your post made no sense... NO SHIT IM CUTTING AND PASTING... what am I supposed to write a thesis on an experiment I did?

Name the DEADLY Diseases in the past 100 years....

Im waiting....

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« Reply #18 on: October 02, 2008, 10:46:10 AM »
Your post made no sense... NO SHIT IM CUTTING AND PASTING... what am I supposed to write a thesis on an experiment I did?

Name the DEADLY Diseases in the past 100 years....

Im waiting....
small pox, the flu, polio, hemmoragic fever...just to name a few
who said anything about 100 yrs too?

I can cut and paste shit all day doesnt make them true, like you said a logical person waits until they have all the facts to make a decision...now tell me whats the logical decision based on the facts at hand about whether or not aids was created by the US government to target black ppl?

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« Reply #19 on: October 02, 2008, 11:27:15 AM »
Here are some comments I posted a while back about that has a different take on HIV and AIDS:

Okay.  Got the Tony Brown book.  Published in 1995.  I was wrong about it not being a heterosexual disease.  He posits that in the U.S. it is primarily spread through IV drug use and those who come into contact with people involved with IV drug users.  Here are some excerpts from "Black Lies, White Lies" (kinda long):

"It has become abundantly clear, in spite of a great campaign of disinformation and reprehensible scare tactics, that 'AIDS' does not attack the general population.  After fifteen years, it remains almost exclusively confined to IV-drug users (about 32 percent of the cases) and a subset of male homosexuals which accounted for about 60 percent of the total 140, 428 AIDS cases in the United States in 1991.  The total number of homosexuals who have had 'AIDS' since it was discovered in 1981 was 217,012 as of December 1993."

"About 95 percent of those contract 'AIDS' have a history of drug use--according to Dr. Robert E. Willner in his book Deadly Deception.  Willner quotes studies that claim it takes from '500 to 1,000 unprotected sexual encounters to transmit' HIV . . . ."

"The odds of a healthy non-drug-using heterosexual getting 'AIDS' are the same as for getting hit by lightening.  And from a population of 255 million Americans, only 140, 428 were living with 'AIDS' as of 1994.
John Lauritsen and Hank Wilson, in their book Death Rush, accuse the CDC of fraud:  'The effect of the CDC's statistical trickery is to underreport IV-drug users as an AIDS group by at least 50 percent; the effect is to construe AIDS as a venereal disease, rather than a drug-induced condition."

One of the world's leading authorities on viruses and retroviruses, Dr. Peter Duesberg, "blames the rise of 'AIDS on the 'massive escalation in the consumption of recreational drugs' in the 1960s and 1970s.  In a ten-year period alone, Americans increased their use of cocaine by 200 percent, while the use of amphetamines and poppers skyrocketed among homosexuals.  Drug abuse, Duesberg says, resulted in the reemergence of old diseases such as tuberculosis--one of the 'AIDS' diseases--in the 1980s and 1990s."

"Duesberg's theory of how 'AIDS' spreads is simple to follow.  He holds that 'AIDS' begins in those who are biologically most susceptible:  people whose lifestyles make them perfect hosts for a 'benign' retrovirus (HIV).  He says it that HIV hardly ever becomes active even in 'AIDS.'  These 'thirdworldized' hosts, all of whom have ravaged their body in some way, include heterosexual drug addicts; and those drug-abusing homosexuals whose irresponsible 'bathhouse' sex behavior exposes them to lethal microbes and the spread of infections."

. . .

More:

"Michael Callen, one of the founders of the People with AIDS Coalition, lived twelve years with 'AIDS.'  Just before his death, he offered a compelling confession in HEAL, a publication for alternative health therapies, that lends credence to Duesberg's 'DAIDS' theory [Drug Acquired Immunodeficiency Syndrome]:

By the age of 27, I estimate I had 3,000 different sex partners.  I'd also had:  hepatitis A, hepatitis B, hepatitis non-A, non-B; herpes simplex types 1 and 2; shigella; entamoeba histolytica; Giardia; syphilis; gonorrhea; nonspecific urethritis; chlamydia; venereal warts; CMV; EBV reactivations; and finally cryptosporidiosis and AIDS.  The question for me wasn't why I was sick with AIDS but rather how I had been able to remain standing on two feet for so long.  If you blanked out my name and handed my medical chart, prior to AIDS, to a doctor, she/he might reasonable have guessed that it was the chart of a 65-year-old equatorial African living in squalor.

"Callen very likely put his finger on what is the probable link between the 'AIDS' outbreak among high-risk groups in the West and the malnourished heterosexual population in Africa:  a Third World health status.  This sort of ravaged immune system first developed in the West among a bathhouse culture of male bisexuals and homosexuals, as well as heterosexual injection-drug users and homosexual long-term recreational drug abusers.  These subcultures were extremely vulnerable because of debilitated bodies and a Third World hygiene status."

"`Something other than homosexuality' causes 'AIDS,' says Duesberg.  'Your all-American homosexual neighbor will never get 'AIDS.'  It's only the ones who have hundreds, or thousands, of sexual contacts a year.  And how is that achieved?  Almost exclusively by chemicals.
"Drug abuse is rampant among homosexuals who practice promiscuous sex.  For multiple orgasms and as an anal relaxant, this bathhouse subculture routinely uses 'poppers' (amyl nitrite inhalants), and their 'recreational' regime consists of PCP, amphetamines, angel dust, cocaine, heroin, uppers and downers, Valium, and alcohol,' Duesberg explains."

"In my opinion, then, the illness we call 'AIDS' in the United States is not by any means a 'homosexual disease.'  I believe it is precipitated by a chemical injury, but it is also triggered by a variety of microorganisms as cofactors that destroys the body's immune system.  The process is a deadly synergistic combustion.  High-risk 'AIDS' behavior in the West is primarily drug abuse, receptive anal intercourse, poor hygiene, malnutrition, and unprotected sex--especially if there is a history of sexually transmitted diseases." 

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Re: BUSTED!!!!!!!!!! quit dodging this
« Reply #20 on: October 02, 2008, 11:37:29 AM »
ppl have been living on earth for billions of years why do you think other deadly diseases came about, syphillis, small pox, the bubonic plague...where they all created by the governments as well?

no shit? BILLIONS of years prove that......so we can shut these Christians up huh.
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« Reply #21 on: October 02, 2008, 11:41:18 AM »
no shit? BILLIONS of years prove that......so we can shut these Christians up huh.
LOL im a christian as well, not to blow your mind  ;D