More Liberal Teachings (Brainwashing) In the Public Schools

[tonymctones]

yea maybe once you become an adult....but we are talking about kids right?you know how many kids are forced to go to churches they don't want to attend...I know numerous adults that as a kid had religion shoved down there throat by there parents,teachers,priest,community leaders.As a kid you can't just get up and walk out of a church.How could you expect a young adult to have the backbone to go against there priest,parents and so fourth.your argument is very flawed.

yes but that is a parent forcing them not the government, the government wont come after a kid for leaving church they will however come after a child and parents for leaving school...do you really not see the difference?

[big L dawg]

yes but that is a parent forcing them not the government, the government wont come after a kid for leaving church they will however come after a child and parents for leaving school...do you really not see the difference?

yes there is defiantly a difference.but I disagree on which one is more severe.The Church should be taxed if they make any political statement period.If they are not they are in vialation of the constitution.second I personal know a couple parents that did not agree with a specific schools policy's.And have there kids home schooled.I also know others that have placed there kids in alternative schooling.you are wrong that the Gov will come after you for deciding how your child is educated.All this being said I have three kids.All in public schools and never had anything remotely negative happen that involved what the idiot that started this thread claims.

[tonymctones]

yes there is defiantly a difference.but I disagree on which one is more severe.The Church should be taxed if they make any political statement period.If they are not they are in vialation of the constitution.second I personal know a couple parents that did not agree with a specific schools policy's.And have there kids home schooled.I also know others that have placed there kids in alternative schooling.you are wrong that the Gov will come after you for deciding how your child is educated.All this being said I have three kids.All in public schools and never had anything remotely negative happen that involved what the idiot that started this thread claims.

right but what about those parents that work and cant home school or that dont have enough money for alternative schooling? The government requires that children recieve an education and in doing has the obligation to not influence the children in ANY direction politically. Like i said earlier this is not cool anyway you slice it and if this was a republican email you can bet that many ppl on this website would have blown this thread up just like they did on the church thread. you will notice however that most of those who posted on that thread havent commmented on this one.

I didnt mean deciding on how your child is educated but if your child decides hey im not gonna listen to this shit and gets up and walks out they will get in trouble now yes of course you can decide to educate your children in another manner but the PUBLIC education system should remain unbiased or at least as unbiased as it possibly can.

[big L dawg]

right but what about those parents that work and cant home school or that dont have enough money for alternative schooling? The government requires that children recieve an education and in doing has the obligation to not influence the children in ANY direction politically. Like i said earlier this is not cool anyway you slice it and if this was a republican email you can bet that many ppl on this website would have blown this thread up just like they did on the church thread. you will notice however that most of those who posted on that thread havent commmented on this one.



I didnt mean deciding on how your child is educated but if your child decides hey im not gonna listen to this shit and gets up and walks out they will get in trouble now yes of course you can decide to educate your children in another manner but the PUBLIC education system should remain unbiased or at least as unbiased as it possibly can.

agreed..I like the way you look at things.and allthough we don't agree on much I respect your views,and arguments much more so than some others on theses boards.

[Straw Man]

Thats right, I'll blame the people (libs) who hate America. They are the ones who want to model america after socialist and communist countries.

Joe, in your opinion, is it possible to be a "lib" and not hate America?

[tonymctones]

agreed..I like the way you look at things.and allthough we don't agree on much I respect your views,and arguments much more so than some others on theses boards.

thank you sir
ditto

[big L dawg]

Joe, in your opinion, is it possible to be a "lib" and not hate America?

as i was saying tony respect you more than some others

[big L dawg]

not directed toward you straw man speaking of coach

[big L dawg]

allthough that is a very stupid question

[tonymctones]

LOL thats ok straw mans a good dude 

[Straw Man]

LOL thats ok straw mans a good dude 

thanks

[Straw Man]

allthough that is a very stupid question

I assume "lib" is a pejorative when Joe uses it but I want to know if he thinks everyone who doesn't share his point of view is de facto an "America Hater".
 

[The Coach]

Joe, in your opinion, is it possible to be a "lib" and not hate America?

Of course, I look at liberals like Joe Liebermen, people like that truly care about the security of the US.

[Straw Man]

Of course, I look at liberals like Joe Liebermen, people like that truly care about the security of the US.

what do you think defines Lieberman as a "liberal"?

by that, I mean there is no liberal party and Lieberman lost the Democtratic primary and ran and won as something called an Independent Democrat. 

I'm trying to understand what a "lib" means to you

[Busted]

Of course, I look at liberals like Joe Liebermen, people like that truly care about the security of the US.

I care about the security of the US, and I do believe that its completely blown out of porportion by right wingers, they try to convince us all that we are in a "red zone" and need to be looking behind our backs for a terroist... its fucking lame....  Thats the problem with the conservatives, they think we dont care about this country and they do...  Im sure i care about this country as much as anyone else... i jut dont buy into the propaganda the right wingers are scared to death about that really isnt that big of a threat...