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More Liberal Teachings (Brainwashing) In the Public Schools
« on: October 02, 2008, 12:56:57 PM »
Virginia Republicans are in an uproar after the state teacher's union sent an e-mail to its members encouraging them to wear blue-colored shirts to school to show their support for Barack Obama.

State Republicans are calling it an undisguised attempt to influence students' political views.

The Virginia Education Association sponsored "Obama Blue Day" on Tuesday. In an e-mail sent last week, it urged teachers to participate by dressing in blue.

"There are people out there not yet registered. You teach some of them," the Sept. 25 e-mail reads. "Others, including our members, remain on the fence! Its time for us to come together, voice our unity, because we make a difference!"

"Let's make Obama Blue Day a day of Action!" the e-mail continues. "Barack the vote!"   

In a statement released to FOXNews.com Thursday, VEA President Kitty Boitnott defended the e-mail, saying that it called for teachers to wear blue shirts, but not ones that mentioned a candidate.

The invitation was not intended to "encourage teachers to use their classrooms for partisan political purposes," Boitnott said.

"The e-mail did not encourage teachers to talk with students about voting for any specific candidate, although it did suggest that teachers can encourage eligible students to register to vote. There certainly is nothing wrong with encouraging students who are 18 years of age or older to register to vote."

But many state Republicans are miffed by the plan, which they characterize as an obvious attempt by the teachers union to encourage young, impressionable voters to cast their ballots for Obama.

"It's a breach of public trust on many levels," Virginia Republican Party Communications Director Gerry Scimeca told FOXNews.com.

Scimeca, who described the VEA as a "very political organization," said the school environment is "a completely inappropriate place for teachers or education staff to be politicking on behalf of any candidate. Parents send their kids to school to get a bipartisan education."

The controversy surrounding the VEA's "Obama Blue Day" is not the only clash between partisan politics and education this election season.

The teachers union in New York has also come under fire for distributing thousands of Obama campaign buttons to its members, prompting a backlash from education officials and parents.

"Schools are not a place for politics and not a place for staff to wear political buttons," New York Department of Education spokeswoman Ann Forte told FOXNews.com.

"We don't want a school or school staff advocating for any political position or candidate to students and we don't want students feeling intimidated because they might hold a different belief or support a different candidate than their teachers," she said.

 http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/02/virginia-teachers-union-sparks-outrage-obama-blue-day/

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Re: More Liberal Teachings (Brainwashing) In the Public Schools
« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2008, 12:59:36 PM »
weird you're not talking about sarah palin today, coach.  she's a star.

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« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2008, 01:00:46 PM »
Virginia Republicans are in an uproar after the state teacher's union sent an e-mail to its members encouraging them to wear blue-colored shirts to school to show their support for Barack Obama.

State Republicans are calling it an undisguised attempt to influence students' political views.

The Virginia Education Association sponsored "Obama Blue Day" on Tuesday. In an e-mail sent last week, it urged teachers to participate by dressing in blue.

"There are people out there not yet registered. You teach some of them," the Sept. 25 e-mail reads. "Others, including our members, remain on the fence! Its time for us to come together, voice our unity, because we make a difference!"

"Let's make Obama Blue Day a day of Action!" the e-mail continues. "Barack the vote!"   

In a statement released to FOXNews.com Thursday, VEA President Kitty Boitnott defended the e-mail, saying that it called for teachers to wear blue shirts, but not ones that mentioned a candidate.

The invitation was not intended to "encourage teachers to use their classrooms for partisan political purposes," Boitnott said.

"The e-mail did not encourage teachers to talk with students about voting for any specific candidate, although it did suggest that teachers can encourage eligible students to register to vote. There certainly is nothing wrong with encouraging students who are 18 years of age or older to register to vote."

But many state Republicans are miffed by the plan, which they characterize as an obvious attempt by the teachers union to encourage young, impressionable voters to cast their ballots for Obama.

"It's a breach of public trust on many levels," Virginia Republican Party Communications Director Gerry Scimeca told FOXNews.com.

Scimeca, who described the VEA as a "very political organization," said the school environment is "a completely inappropriate place for teachers or education staff to be politicking on behalf of any candidate. Parents send their kids to school to get a bipartisan education."

The controversy surrounding the VEA's "Obama Blue Day" is not the only clash between partisan politics and education this election season.

The teachers union in New York has also come under fire for distributing thousands of Obama campaign buttons to its members, prompting a backlash from education officials and parents.

"Schools are not a place for politics and not a place for staff to wear political buttons," New York Department of Education spokeswoman Ann Forte told FOXNews.com.

"We don't want a school or school staff advocating for any political position or candidate to students and we don't want students feeling intimidated because they might hold a different belief or support a different candidate than their teachers," she said.

 http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/02/virginia-teachers-union-sparks-outrage-obama-blue-day/

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« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2008, 01:07:21 PM »
maybe people are just tired of the republican shit?

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« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2008, 01:09:23 PM »
In your stupidity, ignorance and blindness you will blame the 'Liberals (American definition of such)' when the American Empire is brought to its knees.

Thats right, I'll blame the people (libs) who hate America. They are the ones who want to model america after socialist and communist countries.

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« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2008, 01:33:51 PM »
LOL wow the hyporcrisey of it all  ::)

if this was a republican email, you guys would be up in arms ranting and raving some of the further left nut jobs screaming about how this is another conspiracy that if we looked hard enough at could be linked to 9/11

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« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2008, 01:36:43 PM »
I'm not sure what's worse:  the attempt to influence student votes or the defense of this attempt to influence student votes. 

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« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2008, 01:42:31 PM »
Coach talking about brain washing?


ROTFLMAO

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« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2008, 01:43:09 PM »
Coach talking about brain washing?


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you agree with this ozmo?

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« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2008, 01:49:20 PM »
you agree with this ozmo?

That coach talking about brain washing is funny?  Yeah.

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« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2008, 01:52:36 PM »
you agree with this ozmo?

If you are talking about the thread....


The title doesn't match the issue.   which is par for the course for the rush bot.

Next he'll be accusing teachers of teaching kids to hate america....  lol

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« Reply #11 on: October 02, 2008, 02:02:36 PM »
If you are talking about the thread....


The title doesn't match the issue.   which is par for the course for the rush bot.

Next he'll be accusing teachers of teaching kids to hate america....  lol
no im talking about the "state teacher's union [sending] an e-mail to its members encouraging them to wear blue-colored shirts to school to show their support for Barack Obama." you dont see anything wrong with that?

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« Reply #12 on: October 02, 2008, 02:09:31 PM »
no im talking about the "state teacher's union [sending] an e-mail to its members encouraging them to wear blue-colored shirts to school to show their support for Barack Obama." you dont see anything wrong with that?


Only if, its a law that no teacher is allowed to show support, give a favorable opinion for any candidate, political party, support for a local city, town, county, state, proposition etc.   

Is that a law?

Are there teachers in our schools right now voicing their opinion to their students about how they feel about who they think should win?

The answer obvious.

the E-mail, which wasn't posted in its entirety, didn't ask teachers to campaign for Obama.  it asked they were a blue shirt.

This is alarmists bull shit crap from fox to get nipple whores all fired up. 

On top of all of that how many in people in public school are 18?

this is a totally overblown stupid issue.

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« Reply #13 on: October 02, 2008, 02:20:22 PM »
Thats right, I'll blame the people (libs) who hate America. They are the ones who want to model america after socialist and communist countries.

No I just hate dumb Americans like YOU who never have any with anything to discuss with any substance. Except calling people who dont agree with you COmmunits, DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHAT A COMMUNIST IS??

Example... sara Palin has embarrassed herself and McCain for picking her, republicans, FOX NOISE, conservatives have been HAMMERING HER!!!! And you blame the interviewer instead of saying "wow this bitch cant even answer a simple question that a High School kid could answer" THIS woman is running for the 2nd highest office in the land and she cant name 1 fucking supreme court case?  Plessy Vs Ferguson? Brown vs Board of Education? Flint vs Faldwell? Bush vs Gore? United States vs Nixon? Miranda vs Arizona?? ya know MIRANDA RIGHTS!!!!! NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Are you kidding me??? we learned about Plessy vs Ferguson and Brown vs Board of Education in fucking 6th grade!!!!!!!

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« Reply #14 on: October 02, 2008, 02:23:07 PM »
Only if, its a law that no teacher is allowed to show support, give a favorable opinion for any candidate, political party, support for a local city, town, county, state, proposition etc.   

Is that a law?

Are there teachers in our schools right now voicing their opinion to their students about how they feel about who they think should win?

The answer obvious.

the E-mail, which wasn't posted in its entirety, didn't ask teachers to campaign for Obama.  it asked they were a blue shirt.

This is alarmists bull shit crap from fox to get nipple whores all fired up. 

On top of all of that how many in people in public school are 18?

this is a totally overblown stupid issue.
wasnt there a thread not but a day or so ago that went off on pastors political leanings in church and that no tax exempt institution has that right, again im not 100% certain but isnt school a tax exempt institution. LOL so is 99% of the shit that is posted about palin and mccain but i dont see you saying that about that shit. In a public institution where ppl are forced to be there shouldnt be leanings like this now i understand that personal opinions will often show through but to put it in an email and send it to teachers is going over the line.

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« Reply #15 on: October 02, 2008, 02:43:26 PM »
wasnt there a thread not but a day or so ago that went off on pastors political leanings in church and that no tax exempt institution has that right, again im not 100% certain but isnt school a tax exempt institution. LOL so is 99% of the shit that is posted about palin and mccain but i dont see you saying that about that shit. In a public institution where ppl are forced to be there shouldnt be leanings like this now i understand that personal opinions will often show through but to put it in an email and send it to teachers is going over the line.

I'd say if it was against the law, to do what they did, then something should be done.  Otherwise, yeah, i suppose it's not right, but not that big of a deal because they are not telling the very few students who to vote for.    AND only the Obama supporters would be wearing blue.  It's not like they are "VOTE FOR OBAMA" t-shirts and holding mandatory rallies.

That's what's so stupid about this thread.

It's no big deal.   Using your words,  is kind of a non-story  ;D


Now to Palin.  Yes, much has posted about her (not by me)  that seems stupid.  But, i hate to say it, she's a stupid VP candidate almost to the point that it takes away from the integrity of the position.  She was chosen for one reason and one reason only, because some scared sissy alarmists in the McCain camp thought they needed to find a woman to get votes that the  pathetic presidential pandering whore candidate couldn't get and it's starting to back fire on them.

She better have a good showing in the debate or mcCain is toast.  I think she'll probably do ok though.

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« Reply #16 on: October 02, 2008, 03:14:06 PM »
Thats right, I'll blame the people (libs) who hate America. They are the ones who want to model america after socialist and communist countries.

you are a typical (blind acceptance)to the republican agenda.They can do no wrong and if you question them you are anti American. when The most patriotic thing you can do is question the government.just like the morons that say if you don't support the war your UN American.people like you divide this county more than it needs to be.
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« Reply #17 on: October 02, 2008, 03:19:38 PM »
I'd say if it was against the law, to do what they did, then something should be done.  Otherwise, yeah, i suppose it's not right, but not that big of a deal because they are not telling the very few students who to vote for.    AND only the Obama supporters would be wearing blue.  It's not like they are "VOTE FOR OBAMA" t-shirts and holding mandatory rallies.

That's what's so stupid about this thread.

It's no big deal.   Using your words,  is kind of a non-story  ;D


Now to Palin.  Yes, much has posted about her (not by me)  that seems stupid.  But, i hate to say it, she's a stupid VP candidate almost to the point that it takes away from the integrity of the position.  She was chosen for one reason and one reason only, because some scared sissy alarmists in the McCain camp thought they needed to find a woman to get votes that the  pathetic presidential pandering whore candidate couldn't get and it's starting to back fire on them.

She better have a good showing in the debate or mcCain is toast.  I think she'll probably do ok though.
I agree but you have to think that these teachers who wear blue arent actually gonna keep their mouths shut, which means they will be influencing young children in a public school. NOT COOL ANYWAY YOU SLICE IT

I agree though if all they did was wear blue shirts and kept their mouths shut then ya shit it would just seem like a bunch of ppl wore blue shirts but i seriously doubt that to be the situation.

I never said you said anything about palin or mccain that was bs you seem like you have a good head on your shoulders and decipher from bs even though we dont see eye to eye at times i can always see your point even if i disagree.

I agree palin wasnt the best choice for VP but then again i dont think obama was the best choice for the dems to choose to run for pres.

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« Reply #18 on: October 02, 2008, 03:22:16 PM »
The title of the thread is lame spin job

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« Reply #19 on: October 02, 2008, 03:23:53 PM »
I agree but you have to think that these teachers who wear blue arent actually gonna keep their mouths shut, which means they will be influencing young children in a public school. NOT COOL ANYWAY YOU SLICE IT

I agree though if all they did was wear blue shirts and kept their mouths shut then ya shit it would just seem like a bunch of ppl wore blue shirts but i seriously doubt that to be the situation.


whether they wear blue or not, they are going to run their mouths.  So are the McCain supporters

the Union should be reprimanded some how for it at least.

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I agree palin wasnt the best choice for VP but then again i dont think obama was the best choice for the dems to choose to run for pres.

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I never said you said anything about palin or mccain that was bs you seem like you have a good head on your shoulders and decipher from bs even though we dont see eye to eye at times i can always see your point even if i disagree.

Thanks, you do the same. 
It's nice to talk with someone with different view points who isn't blindly loyal to any ideology. 


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« Reply #20 on: October 02, 2008, 03:24:55 PM »
once agin how is it dfferent from churches telling you who to vote for?

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Re: More Liberal Teachings (Brainwashing) In the Public Schools
« Reply #21 on: October 02, 2008, 03:35:45 PM »
weird you're not talking about sarah palin today, coach.  she's a star.


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« Reply #22 on: October 02, 2008, 03:37:42 PM »
once agin how is it dfferent from churches telling you who to vote for?


while i agree b/c of the whole tax exempt issue the one major difference is that ppl choose to go to a certain church or choose not to. In public school you dont get to choose what school you go to you are assigned by the school district and are assigned to teachers as well. You dont have the right to just get up and leave so this means that you are forced to sit there and listen to whatever the person is saying.

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« Reply #23 on: October 02, 2008, 03:52:06 PM »
haha, hey shitbrick listen to this

stick with it, lays the ground work in the the first 4, becomes interesting @ No. 5.


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« Reply #24 on: October 02, 2008, 04:43:52 PM »
while i agree b/c of the whole tax exempt issue the one major difference is that ppl choose to go to a certain church or choose not to. In public school you dont get to choose what school you go to you are assigned by the school district and are assigned to teachers as well. You dont have the right to just get up and leave so this means that you are forced to sit there and listen to whatever the person is saying.

yea maybe once you become an adult....but we are talking about kids right?you know how many kids are forced to go to churches they don't want to attend...I know numerous adults that as a kid had religion shoved down there throat by there parents,teachers,priest,community leaders.As a kid you can't just get up and walk out of a church.How could you expect a young adult to have the backbone to go against there priest,parents and so fourth.your argument is very flawed.
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