The State of Competitive Bodybuilding The Most Shocking Bodybuilding Interview!

[michael arvilla]

http://www.trulyhuge.com/pro_bodybuilding.htm

[wavelength]

Finally something new on this board.

[Naked4Jesus]

Finally something new on this board.

Still useful to newbs who've yet to see it.

[QuakerOats]

sounds like bullshit to me, if these guys take so much shit how come they aren't 400 pounds shredded at 2 percent bf?

[tbombz]

sounds like bullshit to me, if these guys take so much shit how come they aren't 400 pounds shredded at 2 percent bf?

Because that is impossible, pretty much.

How do you think Ronnie exploded from 02 to 03? Its not like he was inexperienced with hard training, high protein/high carb diet, mega doses, insulin, or any of that.

And then take into account, guys who are trying to make a living/a name for themselves (or just guys who never feel big regardless of how big they get) that just cant seem to get to the kind of development as say a Ronnie Coleman or a jay cutler... you don't think those guys will just start putting everything and everything in their bodies?


Go read Milos thread, while he denies using mega doses himself, he does tell a story about a guy he talked to who came to have milos train him, the guy told milos he had once injected up to 100cc in one single day. Now he may have been exaggerating, bu it is a testament to the kind of crazy high drug use that goes on amongst competitive bodybuilders.

[QuakerOats]

Because that is impossible, pretty much.

How do you think Ronnie exploded from 02 to 03? Its not like he was inexperienced with hard training, high protein/high carb diet, mega doses, insulin, or any of that.

And then take into account, guys who are trying to make a living/a name for themselves (or just guys who never feel big regardless of how big they get) that just cant seem to get to the kind of development as say a Ronnie Coleman or a jay cutler... you don't think those guys will just start putting everything and everything in their bodies?


Go read Milos thread, while he denies using mega doses himself, he does tell a story about a guy he talked to who came to have milos train him, the guy told milos he had once injected up to 100cc in one single day. Now he may have been exaggerating, bu it is a testament to the kind of crazy high drug use that goes on amongst competitive bodybuilders.

i just find it funny that the guy is saying that there are guys spending 60K a year on drugs, being on an IV and heart moniter backstage, injections every day just to have measly 20 inch arms and weigh 255 pounds, fucck i mean you'd think these guys would be the size of full grown gorillas with all the effort they put into it, i'd expect to see 32 inch arms, 54 inch thighs, 80 inch chest, etc. with that type of lifestyle.

[LatsMcGee]

i just find it funny that the guy is saying that there are guys spending 60K a year on drugs, being on an IV and heart moniter backstage, injections every day just to have measly 20 inch arms and weigh 255 pounds, fucck i mean you'd think these guys would be the size of full grown gorillas with all the effort they put into it, i'd expect to see 32 inch arms, 54 inch thighs, 80 inch chest, etc. with that type of lifestyle.

I think to get to be that size you would have to be some sort of freak of nature regardless of what kinds of drugs you were taking.

[QuakerOats]

I think to get to be that size you would have to be some sort of freak of nature regardless of what kinds of drugs you were taking.

my point is why bother taking all that shit if you're not going to achieve something special from it, in other words be so fuccking big that when people see you walk down the street they literally gasp in horror when they see you and i'm not talking about Coleman or Cutler sized i'm talking about size that would make those two look skinny in comparison.

[LatsMcGee]

my point is why bother taking all that shit if you're not going to achieve something special from it, in other words be so fuccking big that when people see you walk down the street they literally gasp in horror when they see you and i'm not talking about Coleman or Cutler sized i'm talking about size that would make those two look skinny in comparison.

I understand what you're saying completely.  You can't reason with people who are OCD though,  I think many guys like this are OCD undiagnosed. 

[tbombz]

Well because that kind of size is just INHUMAN. Its not possible. Markus rhul is probably somewhere about as big as the human limit, regardless of how much drug you take - unless you can take something to increase your entire skeletal mass.


One thing your missing is that he said that most guys train pretty easy and sleep through their workouts.

[QuakerOats]

Well because that kind of size is just INHUMAN. Its not possible. Markus rhul is probably somewhere about as big as the human limit, regardless of how much drug you take - unless you can take something to increase your entire skeletal mass.


One thing your missing is that he said that most guys train pretty easy and sleep through their workouts.

here is the perfect example of what i'm taking about, this guy has admitted to taking 3 and a half grams of gear a week and claims to eat 500 grams of protein a day, now don't get me wrong he looks good but to me he looks like an average dude you'd see in almost any serious gym.

[tbombz]

here is the perfect example of what i'm taking about, this guy has admitted to taking 3 and a half grams of gear a week and claims to eat 500 grams of protein a day, now don't get me wrong he looks good but to me he looks like an average dude you'd see in almost any serious gym.

i think you might be overestimating the pro's genetics and underestimating the quantity and duration of drug abuse that it takes to achieve pro level muscularity.

[delta9mda]

sounds like bullshit to me, if these guys take so much shit how come they aren't 400 pounds shredded at 2 percent bf?

amen, brother!

[Griffith]

That was quite a scary read.
What stood out the most for me was how he mentioned that "We don't train that hard. [Most of the guys] are half asleep when they [work out]."

And also this drug that was mentioned which is injected directly to 'blow up' the muscle -- they mean synthol right?
I wonder which BB he is refering to who uses it all over their body? Or do they all use so much now?

"I can see it. [Blank, a top pro] is very ill. I understand what he wants to do for the sport, and he can do some great things, but he's dying and every contest he loses is a blow to him. He's killing himself literally because he wants to make this sport better. Eventually he's either going to win the contest or he's going to die."
Wonder who could this be? 

[Mars]

[MAXX]

here is the perfect example of what i'm taking about, this guy has admitted to taking 3 and a half grams of gear a week and claims to eat 500 grams of protein a day, now don't get me wrong he looks good but to me he looks like an average dude you'd see in almost any serious gym.

whaaat are you kidding me lol!

there are naturals that look better than him.

[tbombz]

whaaat are you kidding me lol!

there are naturals that look better than him.

absolutely not.  dont be so gullible.

[MAXX]

absolutely not.  dont be so gullible.

i think several naturals look better. Layne Norton and many others.

I have better arms for sure. Dont know if i look better as whole but my arms are better..

[liberalismo]

That interview was fabricated.

[ARAGO]

That interview was fabricated.

fill the blanks:

IM: How long do you think you can keep at it? I mean at this pace?
BB: Well I've been on forÉoh God. I'll tell you right now, if anybody's going to die next, it's going to be [blank]. He's too old to be messing with [junk] like that. His pancreas I don't think is too good.There's a look that you get. I can see it. [Blank, a top pro] is very ill. I understand what he wants to do for the sport, and he can do some great things, but he's dying and every contest he loses is a blow to him. He's killing himself literally because he wants to make this sport better. Eventually he's either going to win the contest or he's going to die.

IM: He's really playing Russian roulette?
BB: Yeah, he was using [blank] before any of us. I prefer his look back [a few years]. He wasn't big but aesthetic-a pleasing physique. Something a kid would look at and say, Hey, I would like to look like that. Now he should be concentrating more on certain bodyparts, but instead his body is getting bigger, his stomach, his head, everything.

[QuakerOats]

whaaat are you kidding me lol!

there are naturals that look better than him.

that's what he claims, he also claims he will be an IFBB pro in two years.

[Go 4 It]

Who do you guys think the bodybuilder was that was interviewed??

[ARAGO]

assuming the interview was really in 1997 (11 years ago), either yates or elsonbaty comes to mind.

many others were rumored to be hill during that period...

[just_a_pilgrim]

The interview was found to be bullshit and made up.

Personally i think people underestimate the dedication of training properly, resting properly, and eating the right things at the right time all the time, consistently for many years on end. All drugs are going to do is boost this effort and then genetics make the difference from there.