Author Topic: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread! (Read 54762 times)

mesmorph78 · « **Reply #175 on:** April 16, 2009, 01:58:31 PM »

please tell me fatpanda knows that supermanbeat the hulk 3 times
in the 70 or 80's marvel vs dc which i have

marvel dc 2 printed in the 90's He KNOCKED HULK OUT COLd!!

and also a one off hulk v superman superman beat hulk... so what is fatpanda arguing about

mesmorph78 · « **Reply #176 on:** April 16, 2009, 02:10:25 PM »

here is the superman vs hulk fight I couldnt find it in english but the pictures tell the story
this is the cover of the comic

and here is the super man vs hulk fight

there knocked out cold end of discussion fatpanda

Condor · « **Reply #177 on:** April 16, 2009, 02:25:46 PM »

Quote from: mesmorph78 on April 16, 2009, 02:10:25 PM

here is the superman vs hulk fight I couldnt find it in english but the pictures tell the story
this is the cover of the comic

and here is the super man vs hulk fight

there knocked out cold end of discussion fatpanda

Good stuff.

I guess I had forgotten about that crossover series.

But obviously it seals the deal for my argument.

It appears that Hulk ISN'T the strongest one there is Panda, what say you now?

mesmorph78 · « **Reply #178 on:** April 16, 2009, 02:28:30 PM »

hahha what can he say
superman also beat hulk in two other comics
.. no contest....

LurkyLurker · « **Reply #179 on:** April 16, 2009, 04:48:38 PM »

Battle Royale.....with cheese.

Wiggs · « **Reply #180 on:** April 16, 2009, 04:49:47 PM »

Quote from: LurkyLurker on April 16, 2009, 04:48:38 PM

Battle Royale.....with cheese.

LOL. Ace and Gary.

LurkerNoMore · « **Reply #181 on:** April 16, 2009, 05:21:35 PM »

Quote from: Fatpanda on April 16, 2009, 09:42:48 AM

can you explain then how hulk beat sentry

He didn't.

"The Sentry arrives and attacks the Hulk, leading to a prolonged battle that leaves them spent and in their normal human forms, the Hulk knocking down the Sentry with one final punch while still in their human forms."

It wasn't Hulk vs Sentry, it was Banner vs Ryan.

Sentry wasn't at full power. He was also fighting himself to keep his power in check

The Sentry admits to his fear of his tremendous power mixed with his agoraphobia, stating,

"It's the agoraphobia. Some days it's...I can't...Sorry, Tony. You'll have to handle this one yourselves."
...
"Against an opponent this powerful...The amount of energy I'd have to expend...if I...lost control, for even a millisecond..."

—Sentry

mesmorph78 · « **Reply #182 on:** April 16, 2009, 05:31:47 PM »

exactly he never beat sentry...

natural al · « **Reply #183 on:** April 16, 2009, 05:35:03 PM »

Quote from: jianjohn24 on October 05, 2008, 08:42:02 AM

Daredevil vs. Batman?

batman....nobody beatsw the bat.

natural al · « **Reply #184 on:** April 16, 2009, 05:40:02 PM »

Quote from: Condor on April 16, 2009, 10:04:14 AM

Prove it with scans, or your opinion is worthless.

Superman vs. Doomsday was what, in the early 90's? That's post-crisis Supes, and that's a different Superman altogether. Get your facts straight before you make an ass of yourself even more.

And Thor just doesn't kill people to win battles; I've got scans of Him fighting Hulk and they're trading blows back and forth, but Thor notices all the damage they're causing and is afraid for people's safety, so he tries to stop the fight. Hulk goes on a rage and doesn't care, Thor never intends on killing people, so he would never "bolt him to death."

Lets stick with the subject please. Pre-crisis Supes vs. any incarnation of Hulk.

Prove it with scans that Hulk would win. I've got plenty that show the fight would be a joke. Superman juggled planets for christ sake's.....where's scans of Hulk doing this? What's the best he did, lift a mountain?

GIVE ME PROOF.

pre crisis superman was unbeatable by any character in any universe he was just way over the top in terms of power.....post crisis it got tuned down a bit but supes is still top of the rock, the sentry is just a cheap rip off of him.....no one can touch supes...it's tha easy.

Captain Equipoise · « **Reply #185 on:** April 16, 2009, 11:19:20 PM »

Bahh... Apocalypse > All

Fatpanda · « **Reply #186 on:** April 17, 2009, 02:41:58 AM »

Quote from: Condor on April 16, 2009, 11:33:58 AM

SHOW ME PROOF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Is it that hard to do?

I'm not going to argue with somebody that can't back up what they're saying.

And once again, you need to get your facts straight. Post-crisis Superman is any incarnation of Superman after the 1985 de-powering of him. This isn't the 1970's, is it?

Pre-crisis Supes had plenty of modern battles with plenty of modern superheroes.

Do you think you could maybe muster up some proof or some accurate information in your next post? That would be a big step....

condor you are showing your nievity here.

we both know there is no proof directly comparing their powers as both are from different comic companies ( don't even mention those pathetic cross-overs where batman beat the hulk

)

you have to look at their powers individually.

if you do, what quickly comes to light is hulk is all the things i said.

if marvel bought dc and everyone joined the same universe i would place superman in joint 2nd place for strength with the red hulk, and perhaps hyperion, with thor and sentry just behind them. hulk is obviously the strongest one the is as he has no limit.

why are you denying these facts?

Condor · « **Reply #187 on:** April 17, 2009, 07:10:09 AM »

Quote from: Fatpanda on April 17, 2009, 02:41:58 AM

condor you are showing your nievity here.

we both know there is no proof directly comparing their powers as both are from different comic companies ( don't even mention those pathetic cross-overs where batman beat the hulk )

you have to look at their powers individually.

if you do, what quickly comes to light is hulk is all the things i said.

if marvel bought dc and everyone joined the same universe i would place superman in joint 2nd place for strength with the red hulk, and perhaps hyperion, with thor and sentry just behind them. hulk is obviously the strongest one the is as he has no limit.

why are you denying these facts?

If you have a problem with the crossover series, then take it up with the writers.

As it stands, it's proof positive that Supes KO'd Hulk.

If you're going to start questioning the writers, then you'll have to throw the whole Marvel or DC Universe into question.

As stated by Natural Al, there has never been and never will be a character more powerful in either universe then Pre-Crisis Superman. Look it up.

Fatpanda · « **Reply #188 on:** April 17, 2009, 07:30:19 AM »

Quote from: a_joker10 on April 16, 2009, 01:53:10 PM

Surfer didn't even have the full use of the power cosmic until after obedience disk was broken by Hulk.

Surfer also fought all of Warbound by himself including the Hulk.

The Surfer rules.

so you agree both were in a weakened state, and hulk would have killed surfer if korg didn't dtep in and save him.

regarding the marvel vs dc crossovers

please

they are a joke, batman beat the hulk in one of those

Quote from: LurkerNoMore on April 16, 2009, 05:21:35 PM

He didn't.

"The Sentry arrives and attacks the Hulk, leading to a prolonged battle that leaves them spent and in their normal human forms, the Hulk knocking down the Sentry with one final punch while still in their human forms."

It wasn't Hulk vs Sentry, it was Banner vs Ryan.

Sentry wasn't at full power. He was also fighting himself to keep his power in check

The Sentry admits to his fear of his tremendous power mixed with his agoraphobia, stating,

"It's the agoraphobia. Some days it's...I can't...Sorry, Tony. You'll have to handle this one yourselves."
...
"Against an opponent this powerful...The amount of energy I'd have to expend...if I...lost control, for even a millisecond..."

—Sentry

sentry was at full power, this is made absolutly clear in the comics, did you even read the comic? sentry says hulk is the only one he could attack all out without holding back

he was going to destroy new york, hulk beat sentry, then with a final blow as banner knocked him out - he was the only one standing, then 30 secs later he turned back into the hulk and almost destroyed the planet earth itself.

epic denial.

Quote from: natural al on April 16, 2009, 05:40:02 PM

pre crisis superman was unbeatable by any character in any universe he was just way over the top in terms of power.....post crisis it got tuned down a bit but supes is still top of the rock, the sentry is just a cheap rip off of him.....no one can touch supes...it's tha easy.

i did not say he wasn't - back pre-crisis.

regardless i'm saying current hulk beats current supes - no question, no doubt.

sentry is the main universe marvel copy of him, but hyperion is virtually a clone.

and yes hulk will beat him too

Quote from: Condor on April 17, 2009, 07:10:09 AM

If you have a problem with the crossover series, then take it up with the writers.

As it stands, it's proof positive that Supes KO'd Hulk.

If you're going to start questioning the writers, then you'll have to throw the whole Marvel or DC Universe into question.

As stated by Natural Al, there has never been and never will be a character more powerful in either universe then Pre-Crisis Superman. Look it up.

anyone who knows comics understands the crossover series are junk, they are simply a money making exercise, they are not to be taken seriously.

LurkerNoMore · « **Reply #189 on:** April 17, 2009, 07:38:20 AM »

Quote from: Fatpanda on April 17, 2009, 07:30:19 AM

sentry was at full power, this is made absolutly clear in the comics, did you even read the comic?

Did you? The knockout blow was delivered from Banner to Ryan. Not Hulk to Sentry.

Stop pretending, the evidence is there.

Fatpanda · « **Reply #190 on:** April 17, 2009, 07:43:14 AM »

Quote from: LurkerNoMore on April 17, 2009, 07:38:20 AM

Did you? The knockout blow was delivered from Banner to Ryan. Not Hulk to Sentry.

Stop pretending, the evidence is there.

keep clutching at those straws lurker.

big L dawg · « **Reply #191 on:** April 17, 2009, 08:11:00 AM »

Quote from: LurkerNoMore on April 17, 2009, 07:38:20 AM

Did you? The knockout blow was delivered from Banner to Ryan. Not Hulk to Sentry.

Stop pretending, the evidence is there.

by that logic the whole superman goin back in time and killing banner is BS as well then.as it would be superman assassinating Bruce banner.not hulk vs superman in a fight.has hulk ever been killed in a comic?has superman been killed?there u have it folks.

Condor · « **Reply #192 on:** April 17, 2009, 08:15:58 AM »

Quote from: big L dawg on April 17, 2009, 08:11:00 AM

by that logic the whole superman goin back in time and killing banner is BS as well then.as it would be superman assassinating Bruce banner.not hulk vs superman in a fight.has hulk ever been killed in a comic?has superman been killed?there u have it folks.

No, what he's saying is that when the final blow was delivered, it was a fight between humans, not superheroes.

Superman is able to use whatever power is in his arsenal, including going back in time. Just because Hulk has no defense against this, it's not Supes' fault.

Condor · « **Reply #193 on:** April 17, 2009, 08:26:25 AM »

Quote from: Fatpanda on April 17, 2009, 07:30:19 AM

so you agree both were in a weakened state, and hulk would have killed surfer if korg didn't dtep in and save him.

regarding the marvel vs dc crossovers please

they are a joke, batman beat the hulk in one of those
sentry was at full power, this is made absolutly clear in the comics, did you even read the comic? sentry says hulk is the only one he could attack all out without holding back

he was going to destroy new york, hulk beat sentry, then with a final blow as banner knocked him out - he was the only one standing, then 30 secs later he turned back into the hulk and almost destroyed the planet earth itself.

epic denial.
i did not say he wasn't - back pre-crisis.

regardless i'm saying current hulk beats current supes - no question, no doubt.

sentry is the main universe marvel copy of him, but hyperion is virtually a clone.

and yes hulk will beat him too
anyone who knows comics understands the crossover series are junk, they are simply a money making exercise, they are not to be taken seriously.

Like I have said time and time before, WHERE's YOUR F*CKING PROOF?

??

Here we have offered you proof, which you have STILL FAILED TO DO, and you refute as nonsense.

Since we have no other frame of reference, it's all speculation on your part.

I say compare ON-PANEL FEATS of current Supes and Hulk, and we'll see who wins. Show me one that Supes can't do.

a_joker10 · « **Reply #194 on:** April 17, 2009, 08:36:29 AM »

Quote from: Fatpanda on April 17, 2009, 07:30:19 AM

so you agree both were in a weakened state, and hulk would have killed surfer if korg didn't dtep in and save him.

Surfer didn't have almost any of his power, when fighting the hulk. The hulk had most of his.
Surfer wasn't fighting back after his obedience disk was broken.
Also Surfer wouldn't have died since his power cosmic was coming back to him after the obedience disk was broken.

Those are all small things though.
Surfer at full power is the most powerful character in the Marvel Universe aside from Galactus
which was the case when he broke all of the obedience disks after he regained consciousness.

Fatpanda · « **Reply #195 on:** April 17, 2009, 08:45:03 AM »

Quote from: Condor on April 17, 2009, 08:26:25 AM

Like I have said time and time before, WHERE's YOUR F*CKING PROOF???

Here we have offered you proof, which you have STILL FAILED TO DO, and you refute as nonsense.

Since we have no other frame of reference, it's all speculation on your part.

I say compare ON-PANEL FEATS of current Supes and Hulk, and we'll see who wins. Show me one that Supes can't do.

in world war hulk - hulk got his neck snapped and died, then almost immediately healed - can superman do this?

in hulk the end - hulk was eaten alive by giant cockroaches then regenerated in a few mins - can superman do this ?

we both know he can't.

you keep demanding proof, when i have already told you numerous posts ago there is no proof of them fighting in a serious comic.

however there is plenty of proof that superman was killed by doomsday - a character that possesses none of the powers of the hulk.

you cannot argue about this so instead you have based all your arguments on 'SHOW ME PROOF' and 'PRE-CRISIS SUPERMAN WAS GOD'.

as big dawg points out, superman was killed, hulk hasn't.

Quote from: a_joker10 on April 17, 2009, 08:36:29 AM

Surfer didn't have almost any of his power, when fighting the hulk. The hulk had most of his.
Surfer wasn't fighting back after his obedience disk was broken.
Also Surfer wouldn't have died since his power cosmic was coming back to him after the obedience disk was broken.

Those are all small things though.
Surfer at full power is the most powerful character in the Marvel Universe aside from Galactus
which was the case when he broke all of the obedience disks after he regained consciousness.

nonsense, hulk was severly weakened also as was surfer - the extent of which was not made clear. We can only go by what happened, and what happened was hulk almost killed him.

As i have told condor hulk cannot be beaten in any physical battle.

The Showstoppa · « **Reply #196 on:** April 17, 2009, 08:46:58 AM »

Nerd herd.

Palpatine Q · « **Reply #197 on:** April 17, 2009, 08:53:46 AM »

Quote from: The Showstoppa on April 17, 2009, 08:46:58 AM

Nerd herd.

really...I think i started getting zits again reading this

LurkerNoMore · « **Reply #198 on:** April 17, 2009, 09:10:10 AM »

Quote from: Fatpanda on April 17, 2009, 07:43:14 AM

keep clutching at those straws lurker.

Are you denying the actual print and evidence in the comic itself? It's right there. In the comic.

Damn, how delusional are you? This isn't hearsay, it is actual fact. Printed and proven.

FuckingDUHHH!!

LurkerNoMore · « **Reply #199 on:** April 17, 2009, 09:12:30 AM »

Quote from: big L dawg on April 17, 2009, 08:11:00 AM

by that logic the whole superman goin back in time and killing banner is BS as well then.as it would be superman assassinating Bruce banner.not hulk vs superman in a fight.has hulk ever been killed in a comic?has superman been killed?there u have it folks.

Not the same thing.

Hulk and Sentry met and fought. It was basically a draw because Sentry was fighting to keep control of his powers from overwhelming and destroying everything.

In the end, they had exhausted each other enough to the point that they reverted back to human forms and Banner knocked out Ryan as a man, not a superhero.

Sentry > Hulk.