THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!

[Fatpanda]

Not the same thing.

Hulk and Sentry met and fought.  It was basically a draw because Sentry was fighting to keep control of his powers from overwhelming and destroying everything.

In the end, they had exhausted each other enough to the point that they reverted back to human forms and Banner knocked out Ryan as  a man, not a superhero. 

Sentry > Hulk.

hahahahaha no, sentry let loose with everything - it says so in the comic.

hulk still had a reserve as he only gets more powerful the angrier he gets.

hence the whole incredible rage that almost destroyed the planet at the end of the world war hulk run.

[Condor]

in world war hulk - hulk got his neck snapped and died, then almost immediately healed - can superman do this?

in hulk the end - hulk was eaten alive by giant cockroaches then regenerated in a few mins - can superman do this ?

we both know he can't.

you keep demanding proof, when i have already told you numerous posts ago there is no proof of them fighting in a serious comic.

however there is plenty of proof that superman was killed by doomsday - a character that possesses none of the powers of the hulk.

you cannot argue about this so instead you have based all your arguments on 'SHOW ME PROOF' and 'PRE-CRISIS SUPERMAN WAS GOD'.

as big dawg points out, superman was killed, hulk hasn't.
 

nonsense, hulk was severly weakened also as was surfer - the extent of which was not made clear. We can only go by what happened, and what happened was hulk almost killed him.

As i have told condor hulk cannot be beaten in any physical battle.

I don't care if YOU think it's a serious comic or not, the higher-ups of both marvel and DC agreed on this crossover, AND THAT'S HOW THE FIGHT WENT DOWN.  End of story.  Superman wins.

IF you can't handle it, take it up with the writers.  And while you're at it, why don't you argue with them about everything else "you don't agree with," and maybe you can change the course of comic history altogether.

And since you brought up WWH, here's a shot of Superman Blue learning how to repair himself.  I don't think a neck snap is really going to make a difference here.

http://img100.imageshack.us/my.php?image=week211997action733046st.jpg

[Fatpanda]

I don't care if YOU think it's a serious comic or not, the higher-ups of both marvel and DC agreed on this crossover, AND THAT'S HOW THE FIGHT WENT DOWN.  End of story.  Superman wins.

IF you can't handle it, take it up with the writers.  And while you're at it, why don't you argue with them about everything else "you don't agree with," and maybe you can change the course of comic history altogether.

And since you brought up WWH, here's a shot of Superman Blue learning how to repair himself.  I don't think a neck snap is really going to make a difference here.

http://img100.imageshack.us/my.php?image=week211997action733046st.jpg

hahahahahaha first its pre crisis superman, now superman blue hahahahahaha

fail !

also a neck snap = death not a few cuts and bruises 

[Condor]

hahahahahaha first its pre crisis superman, now superman blue hahahahahaha

fail !

also a neck snap = death not a few cuts and bruises 

Well, you're using the most powerful incarnation of Hulk, so I should be able to use any version of Superman aside from pre-crisis.

And here's a shot where nothing can touch Superman, whether it be strength, psychic powers, man-made powers.  He's within his own force field.  How would Hulk get to that?

http://img97.imageshack.us/my.php?image=week261997supesmos69061co.jpg

[Fatpanda]

Well, you're using the most powerful incarnation of Hulk, so I should be able to use any version of Superman aside from pre-crisis.

And here's a shot where nothing can touch Superman, whether it be strength, psychic powers, man-made powers.  He's within his own force field.  How would Hulk get to that?

http://img97.imageshack.us/my.php?image=week261997supesmos69061co.jpg

  you must not understand the hulk - wwh is the same old hulk that theres always been. just angrier 

you on the other hand are clutching at straws with pre-crisis, blue superman, whats next ?

fact is, even with a forcefield hulk would smash through it if he chose to.

[BigKevinD]

you must not understand the hulk - wwh is the same old hulk that theres always been. just angrier 

you on the other hand are clutching at straws with pre-crisis, blue superman, whats next ?

fact is, even with a forcefield hulk would smash through it if he chose to.
 epic hulk and panda enduced gimmick meltdown 

i wonder who's gimmick you are 

hahahha Fat Panda is getting nervous. He says the same stuff over and over without backing anything up. Typical arab excuses. hahah 

Reminds me when Sadaam said American forces were not moving into his country. FatPanda got punked.

 

[Condor]

you must not understand the hulk - wwh is the same old hulk that theres always been. just angrier 

you on the other hand are clutching at straws with pre-crisis, blue superman, whats next ?

fact is, even with a forcefield hulk would smash through it if he chose to.
 epic hulk and panda enduced gimmick meltdown 

i wonder who's gimmick you are 

Show me a shot of Hulk smashing through a forcefield of that caliber.

And Hulk is not on Sakaar, and this is not Planet Hulk.  That is not the current version.  IT is generally agreed that WWH is the strongest.

[Fatpanda]

Show me a shot of Hulk smashing through a forcefield of that caliber.

And Hulk is not on Sakaar, and this is not Planet Hulk.  That is not the current version.  IT is generally agreed that WWH is the strongest.

afraid not, wwh is the same old hulk, no extra powers, no fancy equipment, just hulk and his anger. 

although it is agreed this hulk is the strongest as he has never been that angry before - but its still the hulk, anytime someone makes him that angry thats the result.

[Condor]

afraid not, wwh is the same old hulk, no extra powers, no fancy equipment, just hulk and his anger. 

although it is agreed this hulk is the strongest as he has never been that angry before - but its still the hulk, anytime someone makes him that angry thats the result.

Well, the other versions of Superman (prime, blue, red son) are still Superman, too.

Dude, Hulk was my favorite hero growing up, my second favorite currently of all time, what I can't stand is when fanboys job him up to be on Thanos' level or something, which you're trying to do here.  He has his strength, and that's all he's god-like in.

[Fatpanda]

Well, the other versions of Superman (prime, blue, red son) are still Superman, too.

Dude, Hulk was my favorite hero growing up, my second favorite currently of all time, what I can't stand is when fanboys job him up to be on Thanos' level or something, which you're trying to do here.  He has his strength, and that's all he's god-like in.

no, it is nothing like those other versions of superman - they have different powers/abilities.

hulk is hulk - the strongest one there is !

his strength has no limit, his healing has no limit, his stamina has no limit - superman has limits.

[Condor]

no, it is nothing like those other versions of superman - they have different powers/abilities.

hulk is hulk - the strongest one there is !

his strength has no limit, his healing has no limit, his stamina has no limit - superman has limits.

Well, if Hulk was even a fraction as fast as Superman, you might have a point.  Superman could speedblitz the Hulk, and he wouldn't even see it coming.

Superman's base strength is MUCH higher, although I would consider it possible that the Hulk would become stronger than Supes as the fight goes on.

You are completely ignoring all of Superman's other powers.

[Fatpanda]

Well, if Hulk was even a fraction as fast as Superman, you might have a point.  Superman could speedblitz the Hulk, and he wouldn't even see it coming.

Superman's base strength is MUCH higher, although I would consider it possible that the Hulk would become stronger than Supes as the fight goes on.

You are completely ignoring all of Superman's other powers.

well the sentry can move at light speed if not faster, and hulk punched him dead on as he flew at him in wwh.

however superman could unleash a speed blitz, thats not to say it would hurt hulk though - as his speed didn't help him against a slower doomsday.

also hulk could just use the thunder clap.

head vision wouldn't do much after the first few secs as hulk would adapt.

the only real threat is flying, but again it didn't do him much good against a weaker and slower than hulk doomsday.

[Condor]

well the sentry can move at light speed if not faster, and hulk punched him dead on as he flew at him in wwh.

however superman could unleash a speed blitz, thats not to say it would hurt hulk though - as his speed didn't help him against a slower doomsday.

also hulk could just use the thunder clap.

head vision wouldn't do much after the first few secs as hulk would adapt.

the only real threat is flying, but again it didn't do him much good against a weaker and slower than hulk doomsday.

That fight vs. Sentry ended with two feeble human beings, christ robert even thanked banner in the end for stopping him.  What the hell does that fight prove?  It was a stalemate at best.

[big L dawg]

Show me a shot of Hulk smashing through a forcefield of that caliber.

And Hulk is not on Sakaar, and this is not Planet Hulk.  That is not the current version.  IT is generally agreed that WWH is the strongest.

OK so...it's agreed WWH is the strongest now.and pre crisis superman use to be the strongest.Right?so superman's like the guy in the gym telling everyone how good he use to be.how much he use to bench.Basically a fuckin has been .While hulk on the other hand is only getting stronger with time and shows no signs of slowing down....so once again there you have it....THE HULK>superman.

[Condor]

OK so...it's agreed WWH is the strongest now.and pre crisis superman use to be the strongest.Right?so superman's like the guy in the gym telling everyone how good he use to be.how much he use to bench.Basically a fuckin has been .While hulk on the other hand is only getting stronger with time and shows no signs of slowing down....so once again there you have it....THE HULK>superman.

You need to learn how to read dipshit.

We weren't even talking about PC Supes, I was saying that it was generally agreed that WWH is the strongest incarnation of THE HULK.  Where does it say in that sentence that he is stronger than Pre-Crisis Superman>

[big L dawg]

You need to learn how to read dipshit.

We weren't even talking about PC Supes, I was saying that it was generally agreed that WWH is the strongest incarnation of THE HULK.  Where does it say in that sentence that he is stronger than Pre-Crisis Superman>

first off...you like name calling huh.however if that is your skinny little twink ass in you avatar I doubt you would be so cocky to my face....second The point I was making is that as time goes by Hulk just get's better and better,stronger and stronger.

[Condor]

first off...you like name calling huh.however if that is your skinny little twink ass in you avatar I doubt you would be so cocky to my face....second The point I was making is that as time goes by Hulk just get's better and better,stronger and stronger.

No, you quoted me completely wrong....

And yes, go check out my pics in the member's pics section, I'd like to see how you stack up "big L dawg."

I'm not being cocky, I just don't like it when people tell me I said something when I didn't. 

[mesmorph78]

hulk has limits.... thats why he has been beaten... there is a limit on how mad he can get... when achilles killed betty he got so mad he reverted to banner...
he also has strength limits...secrt wars...lifting the mountain
off the heroes the writed wrote it that thor wasnt under the mountain....
anyway superman is faster stronger and touger than hulk.. super man moved planets
also i can count on my hand the times ive seen superman cut.....
hlk is nowhere as tough..... no contest
no way no how i posted the comic supeman beat hulk down..
just as superman beat thor..
superman is the greatest hero .. end of

[dkf360]

Superman > Hulk.
As much of a marvel universe fan that I am, we have to give it up this fact.

Also, in Secret Wars II #6, it shows the Beyonder dominating Living Tribunal, Eternity, Master Order/Lord Chaos, Death...etc.  Before the writers retracted this character, it was the single most powerful display of any character in the comic book realm.

[mesmorph78]

im a marvel fan too...
but superman is the greatest...
i dont even think hulk is the most powerul from marvel either... he haas been beaten by iron man
yes panda there is an old issue when tony used alled the juice in his suit to deliver one punch.. that knocked out hulk
namor has beat him under water
thor has beaten him multiple times...
hulk has beaten them too...
i jus think marvel are over writing hulk at the moment because his movie came out and was a smash.... planet hul and ww hulk was garbage in my opinion
the hulk vs dvd that came out was atrocious they had hulk destroy thor BADLY it wasnt a rivalry.. he beat thor like a bad husband abusing their wife total embelishment on the writers part the hulk v wolverine part was better...
i actually thought wovlverine won that fight... he had hulk down and was about to deliver the killing blow...
so hulk is powerful but not in supes league i actually think if the writers be true like stan lee stipulated thor is greater

[LurkerNoMore]

hulk still had a reserve as he only gets more powerful the angrier he gets.

Which is negated by the Sentry's calming force that Hulk has no defense against and thus, can't get angry.

Boxed yourself in with bullshit and the fact remains the same.

[tu_holmes]

Which is negated by the Sentry's calming force that Hulk has no defense against and thus, can't get angry.

Boxed yourself in with bullshit and the fact remains the same.

I thought Hulk beat Sentry during WWH?

Maybe I'm wrong though... I'd have to go back and look.

[BigKevinD]

I thought Hulk beat Sentry during WWH?

Maybe I'm wrong though... I'd have to go back and look.

STFU

[tu_holmes]

STFU

Just telling you what I believe happened.

[Fatpanda]

That fight vs. Sentry ended with two feeble human beings, christ robert even thanked banner in the end for stopping him.  What the hell does that fight prove?  It was a stalemate at best.

the hulk who was not at full rage beat a full power not holding back sentry, yes both reverted to human form.

however robert reynolds ( not ryan or chris    ) was left unconcious at the end with banner still standing.

banner then within a few mins got angry again turned into the hulk and almost destroyed the world - all the while sentry is lying unconcious.

tell me again why you think that fight proves nothing ? 

hulk has limits.... thats why he has been beaten... there is a limit on how mad he can get... when achilles killed betty he got so mad he reverted to banner...
he also has strength limits...secrt wars...lifting the mountain
off the heroes the writed wrote it that thor wasnt under the mountain....
anyway superman is faster stronger and touger than hulk.. super man moved planets
also i can count on my hand the times ive seen superman cut.....
hlk is nowhere as tough..... no contest
no way no how i posted the comic supeman beat hulk down..
just as superman beat thor..
superman is the greatest hero .. end of

no hulk has no rage limit or strength limit - see wwh and the pic i included earlier for further proof.

superman also has kryptonite issues - hulk has no weakness.

as for the crossovers - a pathetic money making venture nothing more.

Superman > Hulk.
As much of a marvel universe fan that I am, we have to give it up this fact.

Also, in Secret Wars II #6, it shows the Beyonder dominating Living Tribunal, Eternity, Master Order/Lord Chaos, Death...etc.  Before the writers retracted this character, it was the single most powerful display of any character in the comic book realm.

perhaps he was.

Which is negated by the Sentry's calming force that Hulk has no defense against and thus, can't get angry.

Boxed yourself in with bullshit and the fact remains the same.

you clearly have not even read the comic - try reading it first before trying to argue with bullshit

it had no effect on the hulk as he was too angry. or perhaps it did have an effect, but the hulk still beat him - imigine the ass wooping the sentry would have got if hulk was not calmed hahahah.

im a marvel fan too...
but superman is the greatest...
i dont even think hulk is the most powerul from marvel either... he haas been beaten by iron man
yes panda there is an old issue when tony used alled the juice in his suit to deliver one punch.. that knocked out hulk
namor has beat him under water
thor has beaten him multiple times...
hulk has beaten them too...
i jus think marvel are over writing hulk at the moment because his movie came out and was a smash.... planet hul and ww hulk was garbage in my opinion
the hulk vs dvd that came out was atrocious they had hulk destroy thor BADLY it wasnt a rivalry.. he beat thor like a bad husband abusing their wife total embelishment on the writers part the hulk v wolverine part was better...
i actually thought wovlverine won that fight... he had hulk down and was about to deliver the killing blow...
so hulk is powerful but not in supes league i actually think if the writers be true like stan lee stipulated thor is greater

.

they have beaten earlier versions of the hulk i agree. however not the current hulk.

namor is scared of the hulk, he knows what he can do.

hulk beat thor so badly because he has no physical equal - its simple.

wolverine could not kill the hulk as he would have healed, also wwh showed hulk adapting to the adamantium claws as he took out every x-man ever  he has also ripped wolverine in 2 

seriously before wwh i could understand guys arguing about how powerful the hulk really is, and even saying the sentry and thor are stronger ( even though hulk has beaten him more times). but wwh gave us the pinacle of hulk rage and hence power - he also beat every mainstream marvel character in the process - barring thor, but if you take into consideration the times a weaker hulk has beaten him, and the fact the red hulk almost killd thor - before the green hulk beat the redhulk - it all shows once again the hulk has no physical equal.

I thought Hulk beat Sentry during WWH?

Maybe I'm wrong though... I'd have to go back and look.

hahahaha yes he did 

STFU

you still here trying to make a name for yourself gimmick?