THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!

[Condor]

Superman > Hulk.
As much of a marvel universe fan that I am, we have to give it up this fact.

Also, in Secret Wars II #6, it shows the Beyonder dominating Living Tribunal, Eternity, Master Order/Lord Chaos, Death...etc.  Before the writers retracted this character, it was the single most powerful display of any character in the comic book realm.

True about Beyonder....I have some of those issues.....it's been debated, however, as to who was more powerful:  Pre-Retcon Beyonder or Thanos w/IG.

[Condor]

the hulk who was not at full rage beat a full power not holding back sentry, yes both reverted to human form.

however robert reynolds ( not ryan or chris    ) was left unconcious at the end with banner still standing.

banner then within a few mins got angry again turned into the hulk and almost destroyed the world - all the while sentry is lying unconcious.

tell me again why you think that fight proves nothing ? 
no hulk has no rage limit or strength limit - see wwh and the pic i included earlier for further proof.

superman also has kryptonite issues - hulk has no weakness.

as for the crossovers - a pathetic money making venture nothing more. perhaps he was.
 you clearly have not even read the comic - try reading it first before trying to argue with bullshit

it had no effect on the hulk as he was too angry. or perhaps it did have an effect, but the hulk still beat him - imigine the ass wooping the sentry would have got if hulk was not calmed hahahah.
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they have beaten earlier versions of the hulk i agree. however not the current hulk.

namor is scared of the hulk, he knows what he can do.

hulk beat thor so badly because he has no physical equal - its simple.

wolverine could not kill the hulk as he would have healed, also wwh showed hulk adapting to the adamantium claws as he took out every x-man ever  he has also ripped wolverine in 2 

seriously before wwh i could understand guys arguing about how powerful the hulk really is, and even saying the sentry and thor are stronger ( even though hulk has beaten him more times). but wwh gave us the pinacle of hulk rage and hence power - he also beat every mainstream marvel character in the process - barring thor, but if you take into consideration the times a weaker hulk has beaten him, and the fact the red hulk almost killd thor - before the green hulk beat the redhulk - it all shows once again the hulk has no physical equal.
 hahahaha yes he did 
you still here trying to make a name for yourself gimmick?

I think what mesomorph is saying (and I completely agree) is that there are several more powerful superheroes who have lost many LESS fights than Hulk; he has been beaten numerous times.  Hulk has not and never will be in the upper-echelon or "God" level with those like Thanos, etc.

[Fatpanda]

I think what mesomorph is saying (and I completely agree) is that there are several more powerful superheroes who have lost many LESS fights than Hulk; he has been beaten numerous times.  Hulk has not and never will be in the upper-echelon or "God" level with those like Thanos, etc.

in a purely physical battle i'm sure hulk would give him a good fight, especially with a wwh type rage.

[Condor]

in a purely physical battle i'm sure hulk would give him a good fight, especially with a wwh type rage.

Ok, maybe we can come up with one that DOESN'T involve Hulk, Supes, or Thor.

[drkaje]

You guys are gay geeks.

[BigKevinD]

Fat Panda and his fat suit OWNED.

   Panda cant back up anything, just his ILLEGAL opinion. Arabs dont know comics.

[Condor]

You guys are gay geeks.

No worse than guys who spend all day talking about oiled-up guys in thongs.

[BigKevinD]

No Hulk has many weaknesses. Gray Hulk is weaker than savage Hulk and can't get angry as quicky or reach savage Hulks power. Savage Hulk is rather stupid. He can be very easily fooled. And of course if you calm either of them down they return to Banner who is as weak as any human. Professor Hulks strength is very limited because banners mind reigns in the anger thus limiting him. They all have their weaknesses. It is just a matter of exploiting them.

IronMan actually beat the Hulk. LOL Fat Panda is all talk like his illegal family. He has no proof, just his Arab opinion and we know that means nothing.













FAT PANDA=OWNED like his country.hahahha

[Condor]

No Hulk has many weaknesses. Gray Hulk is weaker than savage Hulk and can't get angry as quicky or reach savage Hulks power. Savage Hulk is rather stupid. He can be very easily fooled. And of course if you calm either of them down they return to Banner who is as weak as any human. Professor Hulks strength is very limited because banners mind reigns in the anger thus limiting him. They all have their weaknesses. It is just a matter of exploiting them.














FAT PANDA=OWNED like his country.hahahha

Good points.

However, I think Panda was talking about current Hulk, whom Marvel has over-powered ridiculously.  I think it's a ploy having to do with the success of the movie franchise.

Maestro was pretty bad-ass too.

[drkaje]

No worse than guys who spend all day talking about oiled-up guys in thongs.

True.

[Dballn247]

How has this not turned into a ronnie vs dorian thread?

Epic flying under the radar...

[Condor]

How has this not turned into a ronnie vs dorian thread?

It's getting close, my friend.

[BigKevinD]

Good points.

However, I think Panda was talking about current Hulk, whom Marvel has over-powered ridiculously.  I think it's a ploy having to do with the success of the movie franchise.

Maestro was pretty bad-ass too.

hahh FatSuitPanda has gone through each of the Hulk's and all of them have been beaten.LOL Now he is trying to go with the latest Hulk in the movie, as his last resort which does not even relate to the past as does the current Superman that just came out.


Fat Panda=OWNED      Superman>Hulk    IronMan>Hulk   America >FatPanda and TeamLazyEye

















Training Day for Team Lazy Eye  vvvvvvvv

[drkaje]

Couldn't Superman just toss Hulk into a sun or the phantom zone?

[BigKevinD]

Couldn't Superman just toss Hulk into a sun or the phantom zone?

Yes he could easily. It also takes awhile for the Hulk to get to extreme power so he wouldnt be able to get as strong as Superman till it was to late.

Superman juggles planets. Hulk can only lift a mountain. Huge difference.

[drkaje]

Yes he could easily. It also takes awhile for the Hulk to get to extreme power so he wouldnt be able to get as strong as Superman till it was to late.

One of my friends is a comic supergeek and he always argued Hulk was stronger than Superman. His logic was based on Guardian and some other character from the marvel alternate universe. Basically, he said the stuff lifted (buildings, jumbo jets) would crush under their own weight if some aspect of Superman's strength weren't levitation.

I haven't read comics in forever but guess it would come down to what the writers wanted without any logic necessary. If it were a matter of pure strength I'd go with the Hulk unless Superman's intent was to kill.

[kiwiol]

Yes he could easily. It also takes awhile for the Hulk to get to extreme power so he wouldnt be able to get as strong as Superman till it was to late.

Superman juggles planets. Hulk can only lift a mountain. Huge difference.

What happens if you get Hulk to smoke Pot or douse him with laughing gas? Will he revert back to his 110 Bruce Banner form?

[BigKevinD]

One of my friends is a comic supergeek and he always argued Hulk was stronger than Superman. His logic was based on Guardian and some other character from the marvel alternate universe. Basically, he said the stuff lifted (buildings, jumbo jets) would crush under their own weight if some aspect of Superman's strength weren't levitation.

I haven't read comics in forever but guess it would come down to what the writers wanted without any logic necessary. If it were a matter of pure strength I'd go with the Hulk unless Superman's intent was to kill.

 

[BigKevinD]

What happens if you get Hulk to smoke Pot or douse him with laughing gas? Will he revert back to his 110 Bruce Banner form?

Actually that is a good point. Hulk can get so angry he has been actually made back into Banner where he is a weakling.

[Fatpanda]

One of my friends is a comic supergeek and he always argued Hulk was stronger than Superman. His logic was based on Guardian and some other character from the marvel alternate universe. Basically, he said the stuff lifted (buildings, jumbo jets) would crush under their own weight if some aspect of Superman's strength weren't levitation.

I haven't read comics in forever but guess it would come down to what the writers wanted without any logic necessary. If it were a matter of pure strength I'd go with the Hulk unless Superman's intent was to kill.

that is true, part of supermans strength is some sort of levitation power - superman has said this himself, but its never been explained properly as far as i know.

Bigkev is melting bigtime here thats countless posts in this thread where he is melting into oblivian. quite funny really, especially as he clearly has no clue at all about comics.

condor as we have now agreed the hulk is the strongest one there is 

how about superman vs thanos and superman vs thor? who do you think would win those and why?

[tu_holmes]

Actually that is a good point. Hulk can get so angry he has been actually made back into Banner where he is a weakling.

That was when he was Full time Hulk only... After the 3 personalities were merged into the Big Green Banner controlled Hulk.

That can not happen today.

[Condor]

Actually that is a good point. Hulk can get so angry he has been actually made back into Banner where he is a weakling.

That happened once when he got too angry over Betty.

[Fatpanda]

That was when he was Full time Hulk only... After the 3 personalities were merged into the Big Green Banner controlled Hulk.

That can not happen today.

exactly, but i really don't bother to engage 'bigkev' it goes in one ear and out the other.

even that pic he posted - all 3 reviews say hulk is stronger. 

[big L dawg]

what about some villain vs villain action.Dr doom vs magneto

[tu_holmes]

what about some villain vs villain action.Dr doom vs magneto

That's easy... Doom = Metal suit.... Magneto = Control over all things Metal.

Magneto in a squash.