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Obama Illegal Campaign contributions?
« on: October 05, 2008, 10:24:04 PM »
I am not by any means saying this is true but I ask this question.

If it was proven that he accepted Illegal contributions and Money from Foreign countries would that matter to you that he had broken the laws?

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/10/05/rnc_to_file_fec_complaint_on_o.html?hpid=topnews

http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSTRE4942Z720081005?feedType=RSS&feedName=politicsNews&rpc=22&sp=true

http://www.newsweek.com/id/162403

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Re: Obama Illegal Campaign contributions?
« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2008, 11:54:25 PM »
anyone?

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Re: Obama Illegal Campaign contributions?
« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2008, 12:19:32 AM »
If you could prove it... Yes, it would matter.

He should be prosecuted to the fullest extend of the law if it is shown to have occurred.

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Re: Obama Illegal Campaign contributions?
« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2008, 12:40:30 AM »
If you could prove it... Yes, it would matter.

He should be prosecuted to the fullest extend of the law if it is shown to have occurred.

I didn't bother clicking the links 'cause it was BuffGEEK who posted them, ...but is he going on about the guy who bought all that Obama apparel?
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Re: Obama Illegal Campaign contributions?
« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2008, 01:16:35 AM »
I didn't bother clicking the links 'cause it was BuffGEEK who posted them, ...but is he going on about the guy who bought all that Obama apparel?

I asked a legitimate question. I dont even think of posting links to foxnews sites as you guys wouldnt even read it if it were true. The fact that you wouldnt even consider taking the time is telling however. I read a ton of the mindless BS you guys post as I actually want to try and understand where you are coming from. I dont have my blinders on with every issue. I will admit when I am wrong if I see truth in what I am shown.

What I am asking in this post is simply if it were true what your thoughts might be. Also I posted some links pertaining to why I am asking the question. I am not making any claims here.

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Re: Obama Illegal Campaign contributions?
« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2008, 01:30:12 AM »
I asked a legitimate question. I dont even think of posting links to foxnews sites as you guys wouldnt even read it if it were true. The fact that you wouldnt even consider taking the time is telling however. I read a ton of the mindless BS you guys post as I actually want to try and understand where you are coming from. I dont have my blinders on with every issue. I will admit when I am wrong if I see truth in what I am shown.

What I am asking in this post is simply if it were true what your thoughts might be. Also I posted some links pertaining to why I am asking the question. I am not making any claims here.

Fair enough. I appreciate your response to a previous question of mine, ...plus, ...in the time since I wrote that reply, ...I've had an opportunity to read some more of your posts, so forgive me if I previously lumped you in with the coach crowd. I'll click through and see what you're refering to.
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Re: Obama Illegal Campaign contributions?
« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2008, 01:41:18 AM »
Oh Good Grief!  You just wasted a few minutes of my life!!!  >:(

Why didn't you just admit it was about those guys who bought all that Obama apparel when I asked?

This is old news and staler than year old bread. It's Much Ado about Nothing!   >:(

ps: Thanks for letting me know campaigns are not required to keep records on donations of $20 or less.
I think I'll start making a bunch of $20 donations to the Obama campaign!  :D

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RNC to File FEC Complaint on Obama Fundraising Practices
By Matthew Mosk

A lawyer for the Republican National Committee today said the party will ask the Federal Election Commission to look into the source of thousands of small-dollar contributions to the presidential campaign of Sen. Barack Obama.

The RNC is alleging that the Obama campaign was so hungry for donations it "looked the other way" as contributions piled up from suspicious, and possibly even illegal foreign donors.

"We believe that the American people should know first and foremost if foreign money is pouring into a presidential election," said RNC Chief Counsel Sean Cairncross.

Cairncross alleged there was mounting evidence of this, and cited a report in the current issue of Newsweek magazine that documents a handful of instances where donors made repeated small donations using fake names, such as "Good Will" and "Doodad Pro."

The Newsweek report says that earlier this year the Obama campaign returned $33,000 to two Palestinian brothers in the Gaza Strip who had bought T-shirts in bulk from the campaign's online store -- purchases that count as campaign contributions. The brothers had listed their address as "Ga.," which the campaign took to mean Georgia rather than Gaza.

"While no organization is completely protected from Internet fraud, we will continue to review our fundraising procedures," Obama spokesman Ben LaBolt told the magazine.

At the heart of the RNC complaint is a federal fundraising rule that lets campaigns accept donations under $200 without itemizing the names and addresses of the donors on its campaign finance reports. The rule was intended as a matter of practicality -- it did not seem reasonable to ask a campaign to gather that information from every five-dollar donor.

But the Obama campaign has raised more than $200 million this way, a staggering sum for donations that will not be subjected to outside scrutiny.

Obama campaign aides said today that a number of steps have been taken to safeguard against foreign or illegal contributions coming in in smaller increments. The measures include: requiring donors to present a passport at fundraising events held for Americans overseas, ending contributions to the Obama Store from contributors with addresses outside the U.S. or its territories, and requiring donors to enter a U.S. passport number when contributing via the Americans Abroad page.

"When we were made aware of an ad for a Nigerians for Obama fundraiser in a Nigerian paper, our attorneys sent a letter to the paper making it clear the event had nothing to do with our campaign, and that we would not accept contributions from the event," one Obama aide said.

And aides note that Sen. John McCain had his own foreign fundraising issues, having been forced to refund about $50,000 in donations solicited by Jordanian Mustafa Abu Naba'a, who was raising money on behalf of one of McCain's top Florida bundlers.
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Re: Obama Illegal Campaign contributions?
« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2008, 10:02:22 AM »
Oh Good Grief!  You just wasted a few minutes of my life!!!  >:(

Why didn't you just admit it was about those guys who bought all that Obama apparel when I asked?

This is old news and staler than year old bread. It's Much Ado about Nothing!   >:(

ps: Thanks for letting me know campaigns are not required to keep records on donations of $20 or less.
I think I'll start making a bunch of $20 donations to the Obama campaign!  :D

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RNC to File FEC Complaint on Obama Fundraising Practices
By Matthew Mosk



At the heart of the RNC complaint is a federal fundraising rule that lets campaigns accept donations under $200 without itemizing the names and addresses of the donors on its campaign finance reports. The rule was intended as a matter of practicality -- it did not seem reasonable to ask a campaign to gather that information from every five-dollar donor.

But the Obama campaign has raised more than $200 million this way, a staggering sum for donations that will not be subjected to outside scrutiny.





I prefaced my post with the statement that I wasnt by any means saying there was validity to these claims which is why I linked the discusion in question.

I simply asked:

"If it was proven that he accepted Illegal contributions and Money from Foreign countries would that matter to you that he had broken the laws?"

This is particularly a question for US voters as that is who it effects.

Your statement underscores the idea of the prolbem. No foregner should be able to influence the American Presidential Election.

PS: its under $200 that records arent kept for. You can send that $200 to me and I will make sure it gets passed on to the Obama camp  ;D

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Re: Obama Illegal Campaign contributions?
« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2008, 08:29:20 PM »

I prefaced my post with the statement that I wasnt by any means saying there was validity to these claims which is why I linked the discusion in question.

I simply asked:

"If it was proven that he accepted Illegal contributions and Money from Foreign countries would that matter to you that he had broken the laws?"

This is particularly a question for US voters as that is who it effects.

Your statement underscores the idea of the prolbem. No foregner should be able to influence the American Presidential Election.

PS: its under $200 that records arent kept for. You can send that $200 to me and I will make sure it gets passed on to the Obama camp  ;D

Well then McCain's campaign would be non-existant if that were the case. His campaign is run by lobbyists for Saudi's, African dictators, Iraqi warmongers and Somalian warlords, ...basically bad guys from all over the planet.
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Re: Obama Illegal Campaign contributions?
« Reply #9 on: October 06, 2008, 09:15:23 PM »
They are upset Obama raised 450 million and are looking for ANYTHING to try to cry wolf...

McCain got caught taking 1.4 million and gave it back.... but they dont know if he gave it back or not...

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Re: Obama Illegal Campaign contributions?
« Reply #10 on: October 07, 2008, 12:23:28 AM »
Right now the GOP is throwing everything it can about Obama against the wall and seeing if it sticks.


Again, won't work because its not what the voters care about.
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