Has Chad Nickols destroyed Wolfs symmetry?

[Nordic Beast]

Doesn't matter. How would taking too much drugs ruin symmetry. Do you know what it means when something is symmetrical?

I didnt say symmetry I said he gave them a distended huge gut---which ruined their physique

he has a track record of ruining his athletes and wearing them out with his extreme drug regimes

[The_Leafy_Bug]

I didnt say symmetry I said he gave them a distended huge gut---which ruined their physique

he has a track record of ruining his athletes and wearing them out with his extreme drug regimes

Bullshit... Wolfe's distended gut would be his own doing. Chad wasn't working with wolfe in 06-07 from my knowledge. You have to take GH to hang with people at that level and it only looks good for so long. Look at the changes Cutler' and Ronnie's body went through.  It seems to be that there is almost a grace period with the whole GH to where it looks good for about a year and then it steadily takes its toll on the body.

[The_Leafy_Bug]

Wolfe in 06 with a "gut". I was told from someone fairly credible that the guts are not caused solely by the GH but partly by the heavy lifting. Doing 800 pound squats is not going to be easy with out a swollen gut. Over time the heavy weights take effects on it all.

[tbombz]

nobody knows exactly what causes the abdmonial distension leafy.

it could be gh(igf-1), could be slin, could be mega dose aas, could be huge food intake, could be high estrogen levelswhile bulking, could be heavy lifting, could be any combinationof any of those factors.

[The_Leafy_Bug]

nobody knows exactly what causes the abdmonial distension leafy.

it could be gh(igf-1), could be slin, could be mega dose aas, could be huge food intake, could be high estrogen levelswhile bulking, could be heavy lifting, could be any combinationof any of those factors.

I know plenty of people who take a lot of insulin, eat a lot, and lift heavy and have no distension whatsoever.

[NarcissisticDeity]

nobody knows exactly what causes the abdmonial distension leafy.

it could be gh(igf-1), could be slin, could be mega dose aas, could be huge food intake, could be high estrogen levelswhile bulking, could be heavy lifting, could be any combinationof any of those factors.

In the Book Muscle by Jon Hotten they say it's GH and I think Labrada metioned that on PBW , in the book they said the problem with growth hormone is that it causes growth everywhere and I would say to a smaller part its the amount of food these guys eat as well the stomach stretches and shrinks depending on the amount of calories regularly consumed so I'm sure this has something to do with it.

[RC Money]

Trucker belly

Look at how much thicker Jasons upper body looks next to Wolf, and he's further back.

[tbombz]

okay well if you think its growth hormone useage causing disteded abomens then at leats use proper terminology so you dont sound stupid...it would be "IGF gut" NOT "Gh gut"....gh burns fat..its growth properties come from igf (what gh converts into)... and yes i do tend to think high igf levels probably cause the growth of internal organs which causes some abdominal distension...

but you cant down play over eating and genetics and mega dose aas either.  my abdominal wall protrudes a bit and it has since i was small. but i can still pull off a mean vaccum.  and when guy eat 400g of carbs before they step on stage that also causes the gut to distend...where is all that food at ? its sitting in their stoach... go to a buffett and fill yourself and then check out your gut./..it will be distended..

[The_Leafy_Bug]

okay well if you think its growth hormone useage causing disteded abomens then at leats use proper terminology so you dont sound stupid...it would be "IGF gut" NOT "Gh gut"....gh burns fat..its growth properties come from igf (what gh converts into)... and yes i do tend to think high igf levels probably cause the growth of internal organs which causes some abdominal distension...

but you cant down play over eating and genetics and mega dose aas either.  my abdominal wall protrudes a bit and it has since i was small. but i can still pull off a mean vaccum.  and when guy eat 400g of carbs before they step on stage that also causes the gut to distend...where is all that food at ? its sitting in their stoach... go to a buffett and fill yourself and then check out your gut./..it will be distended..

No... I ate 2 pound of potatoes, a loaf of bread, 3 gallons of water, and a pound of fillet mignon and had minimal distension. Loading up on food does play into it but you are confusing people when you say igf gut. We are talking about enlarged organs. Not fat.

[Relentless]

Chad is a dyed-in-the-wool snake oil salesman.  How this guy manages to get paid decent money to tell these guys how to "dial it in" is just ridiculous and echoes the age old sentiment that pro bodybuilders are dumber than a box of rocks. 

ATTENTION PRO BODYBUILDERS: START TRUSTING YOUR OWN JUDGMENT AND DIAL YOURSELF IN.  There are many guys who have hit their all-time best condition without someone else's help, especially a Krispy Kreme like Chad.

[@Brandon]

at leats use proper terminology so you dont sound stupid...it would be "IGF gut" NOT "Gh gut"....

Candizzle just acts crazy, or is he crazy for real?

[Old-Skool]

"One cannot destroy which one does not initially possess" 

[Sherief Shalaby]

Wolf working with Dorian could be a great combination. Calves and a better lower back are what Wolf needs. Who better than Dorian can help him improve those? And Dorian is the absolute master when it comes to conditioning. Wolf with better back and calves and Dorian-like conditioning would actually be scary.

RZA,.. Not necessary coz Dorian had great back or calves he can help others to train these parts in a special way.. Sure he can help in general with any body part coz he is a big expert but he had these great back and calves mainly coz of his genetics in these areas and not coz of anything special he was doing while training them.. In other words, Dorian can help u to train ur Biceps as well as he can help u to train ur back if not better.. I believe he may be able to help u more with biceps or shoulders coz they were considerably weak points for him.. Sure he tried everything possible to improve them but he didn't need to do this with his already outstanding back or calves.. When u have a strong part by nature it's very easy to reach its limit but when u have a weak part u have to do everything possible to improve it and still after doing this it will always remain a weak point when comparing to ur naturally strong parts.. Same can be said about Nasser who can write books about training the back muscles but he would have few tips to say about training his shoulders or quads..

[m8]

Look at how much thicker Jasons upper body looks next to Wolf, and he's further back.

You're starting to sound like Squadfather 

[tbombz]

No... I ate 2 pound of potatoes, a loaf of bread, 3 gallons of water, and a pound of fillet mignon and had minimal distension. Loading up on food does play into it but you are confusing people when you say igf gut. We are talking about enlarged organs. Not fat.

  all that food and yes you will hgave distension. so stop lying.  where does all the food go ?

if people get confused by igf gut then they are stupid anyway and dont worry about confusing them...those who have any knowledge will look at you with respect because youll be talking with knowledge and not just hear-say...(well it WILL be hear-say for you sicne im the one telling yout his and you dont know it for fact foryourself just yet BUT they wont know the difference)....

your last two sentences throw me offf... yes enlarged organs but viceral fat might also play a role.. like i told you before nobody knows for certain dude... it also might be super thick abdominal hypertrophy as well... at least in dexter jacksons case i think this plays a part...


a few new terms.. liverpilled - gh15 ... igf gut - tbombz....    woot !! 

[WillGrant]

okay well if you think its growth hormone useage causing disteded abomens then at leats use proper terminology so you dont sound stupid...it would be "IGF gut" NOT "Gh gut"....gh burns fat..its growth properties come from igf (what gh converts into)... and yes i do tend to think high igf levels probably cause the growth of internal organs which causes some abdominal distension...

but you cant down play over eating and genetics and mega dose aas either.  my abdominal wall protrudes a bit and it has since i was small. but i can still pull off a mean vaccum.  and when guy eat 400g of carbs before they step on stage that also causes the gut to distend...where is all that food at ? its sitting in their stoach... go to a buffett and fill yourself and then check out your gut./..it will be distended..

Oh fuck up would you..You have NO!!!!!!!!!! experience with this other what you read on the different boards you surf.

You have been exposed so many times..and now we find out you are Bisexual ..

Not only are you full of shit but you also like sticking your dick in it 

[just_a_pilgrim]

RZA,.. Not necessary coz Dorian had great back or calves he can help others to train these parts in a special way.. Sure he can help in general with any body part coz he is a big expert but he had these great back and calves mainly coz of his genetics in these areas and not coz of anything special he was doing while training them.. In other words, Dorian can help u to train ur Biceps as well as he can help u to train ur back if not better.. I believe he may be able to help u more with biceps or shoulders coz they were considerably weak points for him.. Sure he tried everything possible to improve them but he didn't need to do this with his already outstanding back or calves.. When u have a strong part by nature it's very easy to reach its limit but when u have a weak part u have to do everything possible to improve it and still after doing this it will always remain a weak point when comparing to ur naturally strong parts.. Same can be said about Nasser who can write books about training the back muscles but he would have few tips to say about training his shoulders or quads..

His calfs were always good his back was worked upon over and over.

You can tell, in 1990 Mo Bez beat him on back, in 1991 Lee Haney beat him on back but it was improved. He just kept making it better and better.

Although i agree generally with what you said, once someone is developed it's very difficult to change much.

[Sherief Shalaby]

His calfs were always good his back was worked upon over and over.

You can tell, in 1990 Mo Bez beat him on back, in 1991 Lee Haney beat him on back but it was improved. He just kept making it better and better.

Although i agree generally with what you said, once someone is developed it's very difficult to change much.

I believe the calve is the most affected muscle by the nature (genetics) of each one.. If you have a really poor calve you will never have even an "ok" calve one day whatever you do.. And if you have a naturally good calve it will be always good even if you don't train it!!..

[musclecenter]

not just Wolf

[The_Leafy_Bug]

No one has still acknowledged the fact that Wolfe has has the distension since 06. Guess that kind of puts a hole in your argument.

[tbombz]

No one has still acknowledged the fact that Wolfe has has the distension since 06. Guess that kind of puts a hole in your argument.

yeah pretty much every ifbb pro has distension from the time they become pro... whose argument does that fact hurt ??

[RC Money]

You're starting to sound like Squadfather 

Oh man I didn't catch this before very

[Fatpanda]

Oh fuck up would you..You have NO!!!!!!!!!! experience with this other what you read on the different boards you surf.

You have been exposed so many times..and now we find out you are Bisexual ..

Not only are you full of shit but you also like sticking your dick in it 

who is tbomz will 

milos's athletes do not have guts - therefore milos > chad imho

[m8]

who is tbomz will 

candidate

[NarcissisticDeity]

No one has still acknowledged the fact that Wolfe has has the distension since 06. Guess that kind of puts a hole in your argument.

I have , I posted gut pics a while ago and people all cried foul , he was just exhaling lol