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« on: October 12, 2008, 02:35:07 AM »

Tonight, McCain is still running Obama is a terrorist ads...  I guess he figures that the only way to win is to get Obama killed Roll Eyes


IF you think way back to the start of this marathon campaign, back when it seemed preposterous that any black man could be a serious presidential contender, then you remember the biggest fear about Barack Obama: a crazy person might take a shot at him.

Some voters told reporters that they didn’t want Obama to run, let alone win, should his very presence unleash the demons who have stalked America from Lincoln to King. After consultation with Congress, Michael Chertoff, the homeland security secretary, gave Obama a Secret Service detail earlier than any presidential candidate in our history — in May 2007, some eight months before the first Democratic primaries.

“I’ve got the best protection in the world, so stop worrying,” Obama reassured his supporters. Eventually the country got conditioned to his appearing in large arenas without incident (though I confess that the first loud burst of fireworks at the end of his convention stadium speech gave me a start). In America, nothing does succeed like success. The fear receded.

Until now. At McCain-Palin rallies, the raucous and insistent cries of “Treason!” and “Terrorist!” and “Kill him!” and “Off with his head!” as well as the uninhibited slinging of racial epithets, are actually something new in a campaign that has seen almost every conceivable twist. They are alarms. Doing nothing is not an option.

All’s fair in politics. John McCain and Sarah Palin have every right to bring up William Ayers, even if his connection to Obama is minor, even if Ayers’s Weather Underground history dates back to Obama’s childhood, even if establishment Republicans and Democrats alike have collaborated with the present-day Ayers in educational reform. But it’s not just the old Joe McCarthyesque guilt-by-association game, however spurious, that’s going on here. Don’t for an instant believe the many mindlessly “even-handed” journalists who keep saying that the McCain campaign’s use of Ayers is the moral or political equivalent of the Obama campaign’s hammering on Charles Keating.

What makes them different, and what has pumped up the Weimar-like rage at McCain-Palin rallies, is the violent escalation in rhetoric, especially (though not exclusively) by Palin. Obama “launched his political career in the living room of a domestic terrorist.” He is “palling around with terrorists” (note the plural noun). Obama is “not a man who sees America the way you and I see America.” Wielding a wildly out-of-context Obama quote, Palin slurs him as an enemy of American troops.

By the time McCain asks the crowd “Who is the real Barack Obama?” it’s no surprise that someone cries out “Terrorist!” The rhetorical conflation of Obama with terrorism is complete. It is stoked further by the repeated invocation of Obama’s middle name by surrogates introducing McCain and Palin at these rallies. This sleight of hand at once synchronizes with the poisonous Obama-is-a-Muslim e-mail blasts and shifts the brand of terrorism from Ayers’s Vietnam-era variety to the radical Islamic threats of today.

That’s a far cry from simply accusing Obama of being a guilty-by-association radical leftist. Obama is being branded as a potential killer and an accessory to past attempts at murder. “Barack Obama’s friend tried to kill my family” was how a McCain press release last week packaged the remembrance of a Weather Underground incident from 1970 — when Obama was 8.

We all know what punishment fits the crime of murder, or even potential murder, if the security of post-9/11 America is at stake. We all know how self-appointed “patriotic” martyrs always justify taking the law into their own hands.

Obama can hardly be held accountable for Ayers’s behavior 40 years ago, but at least McCain and Palin can try to take some responsibility for the behavior of their own supporters in 2008. What’s troubling here is not only the candidates’ loose inflammatory talk but also their refusal to step in promptly and strongly when someone responds to it with bloodthirsty threats in a crowded arena. Joe Biden had it exactly right when he expressed concern last week that “a leading American politician who might be vice president of the United States would not just stop midsentence and turn and condemn that.” To stay silent is to pour gas on the fires.

It wasn’t always thus with McCain. In February he loudly disassociated himself from a speaker who brayed “Barack Hussein Obama” when introducing him at a rally in Ohio. Now McCain either backpedals with tardy, pro forma expressions of respect for his opponent or lets second-tier campaign underlings release boilerplate disavowals after ugly incidents like the chilling Jim Crow-era flashback last week when a Florida sheriff ranted about “Barack Hussein Obama” at a Palin rally while in full uniform.

From the start, there have always been two separate but equal questions about race in this election. Is there still enough racism in America to prevent a black man from being elected president no matter what? And, will Republicans play the race card? The jury is out on the first question until Nov. 4. But we now have the unambiguous answer to the second: Yes.

McCain, who is no racist, turned to this desperate strategy only as Obama started to pull ahead. The tone was set at the Republican convention, with Rudy Giuliani’s mocking dismissal of Obama as an “only in America” affirmative-action baby. We also learned then that the McCain campaign had recruited as a Palin handler none other than Tucker Eskew, the South Carolina consultant who had worked for George W. Bush in the notorious 2000 G.O.P. primary battle where the McCains and their adopted Bangladeshi daughter were slimed by vicious racist rumors.

No less disconcerting was a still-unexplained passage of Palin’s convention speech: Her use of an unattributed quote praising small-town America (as opposed to, say, Chicago and its community organizers) from Westbrook Pegler, the mid-century Hearst columnist famous for his anti-Semitism, racism and violent rhetorical excess. After an assassin tried to kill F.D.R. at a Florida rally and murdered Chicago’s mayor instead in 1933, Pegler wrote that it was “regrettable that Giuseppe Zangara shot the wrong man.” In the ’60s, Pegler had a wish for Bobby Kennedy: “Some white patriot of the Southern tier will spatter his spoonful of brains in public premises before the snow falls.”

This is the writer who found his way into a speech by a potential vice president at a national political convention. It’s astonishing there’s been no demand for a public accounting from the McCain campaign. Imagine if Obama had quoted a Black Panther or Louis Farrakhan — or William Ayers — in Denver.

The operatives who would have Palin quote Pegler have been at it ever since. A key indicator came two weeks after the convention, when the McCain campaign ran its first ad tying Obama to the mortgage giant Fannie Mae. Rather than make its case by using a legitimate link between Fannie and Obama (or other Democratic leaders), the McCain forces chose a former Fannie executive who had no real tie to Obama or his campaign but did have a black face that could dominate the ad’s visuals.

There are no black faces high in the McCain hierarchy to object to these tactics. There hasn’t been a single black Republican governor, senator or House member in six years. This is a campaign where Palin can repeatedly declare that Alaska is “a microcosm of America” without anyone even wondering how that might be so for a state whose tiny black and Hispanic populations are each roughly one-third the national average. There are indeed so few people of color at McCain events that a black senior writer from The Tallahassee Democrat was mistakenly ejected by the Secret Service from a campaign rally in Panama City in August, even though he was standing with other reporters and showed his credentials. His only apparent infraction was to look glaringly out of place.

Could the old racial politics still be determinative? I’ve long been skeptical of the incessant press prognostications (and liberal panic) that this election will be decided by racist white men in the Rust Belt. Now even the dimmest bloviators have figured out that Americans are riveted by the color green, not black — as in money, not energy. Voters are looking for a leader who might help rescue them, not a reckless gambler whose lurching responses to the economic meltdown (a campaign “suspension,” a mortgage-buyout stunt that changes daily) are as unhinged as his wanderings around the debate stage.

To see how fast the tide is moving, just look at North Carolina. On July 4 this year — the day that the godfather of modern G.O.P. racial politics, Jesse Helms, died — The Charlotte Observer reported that strategists of both parties agreed Obama’s chances to win the state fell “between slim and none.” Today, as Charlotte reels from the implosion of Wachovia, the McCain-Obama race is a dead heat in North Carolina and Helms’s Republican successor in the Senate, Elizabeth Dole, is looking like a goner.

But we’re not at Election Day yet, and if voters are to have their final say, both America and Obama have to get there safely. The McCain campaign has crossed the line between tough negative campaigning and inciting vigilantism, and each day the mob howls louder. The onus is on the man who says he puts his country first to call off the dogs, pit bulls and otherwise.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/12/opinion/12rich.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
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« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2008, 04:01:25 AM »

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« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2008, 06:42:09 AM »

BUMP for a great Sunday op-ed piece by Frank Rich.
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« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2008, 07:06:25 AM »

Obama is ahead of the curve once again.

If you can't beat them, join them.

Bush couldn't catch OBL, Al Qaeda's ranks have swelled since the war on terrorism started....we can't win Rock!

To beat a terrorist, we must become terrorists.

That's why we have the war of terror in Iraq.

It all makes sense.

I suppose I should read the article Hugo posted.
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« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2008, 05:47:03 PM »

Obama is ahead of the curve once again.

If you can't beat them, join them.

Bush couldn't catch OBL, Al Qaeda's ranks have swelled since the war on terrorism started....we can't win Rock!

To beat a terrorist, we must become terrorists.

That's why we have the war of terror in Iraq.

It all makes sense.

I suppose I should read the article Hugo posted.
yea, since it's not about any of that, it's a good read and an important one for McCain and his followers
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« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2008, 11:22:46 PM »

Time to Ask McCain: "Have You No Sense of Decency Left?"

The McCain campaign crossed the line today from negative character attacks to the kind of character assassination that plays to the basest impulses and incites the most dangerous reaction. We've seen the prelude this week in the McCain crowds and in Sarah Palin's well-rehearsed, carefully telepromptered and increasingly ugly diatribes. But the intent became undeniable with the new McCain ad that falsely charges that "Obama worked with terrorist William Ayers when it was convenient"--which all but alleges that the candidate was there planting bombs.

McCain had to back off and almost apologize at an event in Minnesota when a questioner in his crowd alleged that Obama was "an Arab." McCain meekly had to explain, over the evident unrest of his supporters, that Obama wasn't dangerous.

But who was responsible for leaving people to think that he was dangerous in the first place? The McCain campaign grab-bag of tarnished tactics has trafficked in soft hate and hard fears about "the other." It has been said that everything in America ultimately comes back to race. But with Republican campaigns in trouble, starting with Barry Goldwater and continuing with Nixon's "southern strategy" in 1968, it really always does come back to race.

The McCain forces have taken this to a new low; there is no way to deny the deliberate, conscious attempt to portray Obama as unAmerican; not "one of us" as Pat Buchanan said tonight on "Hardball"; someone "who doesn't see America as we do," in the venomous patois of Palin.

In all decency, it is at least worth mentioning, even as we note that Obama is not an Arab or a Moslem, that there is something profoundly unAmerican about denigrating all Arabs or all Moslems as suspect or evil. Or, for that matter, something profoundly unAmerican about playing to the old prejudices that many assumed would prevent any African-American from ever becoming President in their lifetimes. The appeal to intolerance is amplified by commentators like Buchanan and William Kristol, who urge the McCain campaign to pound away at Obama's former pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright. They have a list of names they want McCain to flourish and a wave of innuendos they want McCain to raise. Joe McCarthy would recognize this; it's the smear technique that he virtually patented. To borrow a phrase from that period, a phrase that shattered his reign of intimidation, maybe we ought to ask the McCain forces, the candidate and his supporting commentariat, "Have you no sense of decency left at all?"

I don't think McCain does.

And in effect he is sending a message to voters that he has no chance at all of winning if the campaign is waged on great issues like the economy. So as things get more serious in a deeply troubled America, the McCain campaign gets more frivolous. The campaign manager, Rick Davis, says the financial crash is for CNBC to discuss every day, not for the candidates. Instead, we hear about Ayers, ACORN (conveniently, a "community organization" that helps poor, and in many cases, black families) --and, of course, Obama's middle name. How much of his vaunted courage would it take for McCain to publicly rebuke, on the spot, any supporter who rolls out the name "Hussein" as an epithet that connects Obama to you-know-who?

The reality is that in a country facing two wars and a mounting economic crisis, these desparate and despicable appeals aren't working. Obama's lead is mounting, nationally and in the battleground states. But there is a threat here too that is all too real. When I heard someone in a Palin crowd yell out "traitor" as the candidate lashed out at the Democratic nominee, I thought of the full-page ad that appeared in a Dallas newspaper on the morning of Nov. 22, 1963. The headline--"Wanted for Treason"-- was sprawled across a poster-sized photo of President John F. Kennedy.

You don't put country first by running this kind of campaign.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bob-shrum/time-to-ask-mccain-have-y_b_133814.html
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« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2008, 02:27:18 PM »

OBAMA DOSEN'T KNOW THE FIRST THING ABOUT WAR, HE KNOWS ABOUT TERRIOST, ASK BILL AYERS
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« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2008, 02:43:05 PM »

OBAMA DOSEN'T KNOW THE FIRST THING ABOUT WAR, HE KNOWS ABOUT TERRIOST, ASK BILL AYERS

Yes, actually he helped Bill Ayers. He was only 8 at the time, but he got INVOLVED. After being trained as child-terrorist Muslim at the age of 6, his bomb skills were pretty much honed.

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« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2008, 02:50:03 PM »

HE KNEW WHO B.AYRES WAS, OBAMA's WIFE WORKED WITH AYRES WIFE 20 YRS AGO IN A LAW FIRM
IN CHICAGO, SO MAYBE NOT AT 8 BUT BY THE TIME HE DID IT WAS TO LATE. (SUCKER)
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« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2008, 03:18:43 PM »

Hi GH Roll Eyes
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« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2008, 04:08:12 PM »

Ok, scumbag MCCAIN today is blaming this on OBAMA!!!!!!!  NO SHIT!!!!  another call from the crowd today to kill Obama and McCain blames Obama for all this.  McCain says Obama crowds say the same things Roll Eyes
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« Reply #11 on: October 14, 2008, 04:11:33 PM »

McCain is a war criminal. He should be sent to Guantanamo with Bush and all other republicans for making valid accusations that Obama associates with a known terrorist.
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« Reply #12 on: October 14, 2008, 04:13:07 PM »

McCain is a war criminal. He should be sent to Guantanamo with Bush and all other republicans for making valid accusations that Obama associates with a known terrorist.
Obama is not inciting violence against McCain, can't say the same for McCain...  He must figure the only way to win is to get Obama killed.
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« Reply #13 on: October 14, 2008, 04:15:12 PM »

Yes, your correct. McCain is actually a former KKK member who plans to make David Duke his National Security advisor. Reportedly Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson are providing financial support to pay for the contract on Obama's life so they can regain the spotlight. Dont you see? Its all connected- Dont be a sheep- expose the conspiracy!
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« Reply #14 on: October 14, 2008, 04:20:08 PM »

Yes, your correct. McCain is actually a former KKK member who plans to make David Duke his National Security advisor. Reportedly Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson are providing financial support to pay for the contract on Obama's life so they can regain the spotlight. Dont you see? Its all connected- Dont be a sheep- expose the conspiracy!
Roll Eyes  this is the answer I would expect from you guys, not surpised.
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« Reply #15 on: September 19, 2018, 11:30:50 AM »

haven't been on here in years.  love coming back and looking at how full of shit the liberals are.  Look at what they were all saying about Mccain.  Flash forward 10 years and Obama and George Bush are eulogizing him as a great man.  SO FUCKING AWKWARD.

FYI the threads about Obamacare are just fucking precious to read now.  This is awesome.
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« Reply #16 on: September 19, 2018, 12:30:53 PM »

haven't been on here in years.  love coming back and looking at how full of shit the liberals are.  Look at what they were all saying about Mccain.  Flash forward 10 years and Obama and George Bush are eulogizing him as a great man.  SO FUCKING AWKWARD.

FYI the threads about Obamacare are just fucking precious to read now.  This is awesome.

Human nature is awesome. There is nothing awkward about civility.
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« Reply #17 on: September 19, 2018, 12:38:07 PM »

Good. I'm sure bathhouse barry's supporters on Twitter went all shock and awe with the hashtags and memes on that platform to voice their disdain at this unfathomable disrespect of their high priest and patron saint by the "deplorables" (Americans who aren't liberal).
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