Who Is Barack Obama?

[Dos Equis]

Why bother suing Sinclair, who is not at all credible for defamation?

I do not think, care or speculate about Obama's sexual orientation, because it has no impact on my life whatsoever.   

Why would he sue Sinclair?  Because he accused Obama of having a sexual relationship with him and of doing drugs.  But like I said, I can understand why he didn't because the media blackout made it unnecessary.   

You are not going to speculate because it’s Obama.   

[Primemuscle]

Why would he sue Sinclair?  Because he accused Obama of having a sexual relationship with him and of doing drugs.  But like I said, I can understand why he didn't because the media blackout made it unnecessary.   

You are not going to speculate because it’s Obama.   

Barack Obama is neither a close friend of mine nor an immediate family member. As I previously posted, his sexual orientation does not impact me

[chaos]

What?  I gave you Obama’s own words.  Here they are again:

“In regard to homosexuality, I must say that I believe this is an attempt to remove oneself from the present, a refusal perhaps to perpetuate the endless farce of earthly life,” Obama, then 21, wrote in November 1982. ”You see, I make love to men daily, but in the imagination.”

Obama's uncovered love letter to ex-girlfriend: 'I make love to men daily, but in the imagination'
by JACKSON WALKER | The National DeskWed, August 16th 2023
https://katv.com/news/nation-world/obamas-uncovered-love-letter-to-ex-girlfriend-i-make-love-to-men-daily-but-in-the-imagination-barack-president-lgbt-white-house-politics-

[LurkerNoMore]

What?  I gave you Obama’s own words.  Here they are again:

“In regard to homosexuality, I must say that I believe this is an attempt to remove oneself from the present, a refusal perhaps to perpetuate the endless farce of earthly life,” Obama, then 21, wrote in November 1982. ”You see, I make love to men daily, but in the imagination.”

Obama's uncovered love letter to ex-girlfriend: 'I make love to men daily, but in the imagination'
by JACKSON WALKER | The National DeskWed, August 16th 2023
https://katv.com/news/nation-world/obamas-uncovered-love-letter-to-ex-girlfriend-i-make-love-to-men-daily-but-in-the-imagination-barack-president-lgbt-white-house-politics-

Someone doesn't know the difference between imagination and actually doing it.  If I imagined killing the people who drive slow in the left lane, does that make me a murderer?

We all know Trumpy's comments on dating his underage daughter.  Does that make him a pedo?

[LurkerNoMore]

Why would he sue Sinclair?  Because he accused Obama of having a sexual relationship with him and of doing drugs.  But like I said, I can understand why he didn't because the media blackout made it unnecessary.   

You are not going to speculate because it’s Obama.   

If that were case, how many people would be sitting around suing the National Enquirer?  People don't sue, not because it is true, but because it is not worth their time.  As everyone with common sense knows, neither the Equirer or Larry have no crediblity at all.

[Primemuscle]

Someone doesn't know the difference between imagination and actually doing it.  If I imagined killing the people who drive slow in the left lane, does that make me a murderer?

We all know Trumpy's comments on dating his underage daughter.  Does that make him a pedo?

Excellent point. Most people have fantasies which they never act on. "Just because an individual has a sexual fantasy doesn’t mean that they have an interest in acting it out. Part of having a fantasy is to explore an interest, a curiosity, even a repulsion." https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/sexual-self/202111/why-people-have-sexual-fantasies-theyd-never-act-out

Dos Equis posted that the only reason I think or care about Obama's sexual orientation is because of who he is, which is simply not true. But that Dos passionately believes Obama is gay suggests  the only reason for this is because it is Obama, whom apparently, he detests. This is a classic example of projection on Dos’ part.

[Irongrip400]

Someone doesn't know the difference between imagination and actually doing it.  If I imagined killing the people who drive slow in the left lane, does that make me a murderer?

We all know Trumpy's comments on dating his underage daughter.  Does that make him a pedo?

Being gay in your imagination and fantasies is a bit different. Not sure why, just seems different. Are there things?🤣

[Dos Equis]

Someone doesn't know the difference between imagination and actually doing it.  If I imagined killing the people who drive slow in the left lane, does that make me a murderer?

We all know Trumpy's comments on dating his underage daughter.  Does that make him a pedo?

If you are fantasizing about murdering someone everyday then you are probably a psychopathic murderer. 

But I understand you are saying that Obama fantasizing about having sex with men, "daily," provides no evidence that he might be gay.  I think most reasonable people would disagree with you.

[chaos]

If you are fantasizing about murdering someone everyday then you are probably a psychopathic murderer. 

Woah woah woah! Have you ever sat in LA traffic?

[Dos Equis]

Woah woah woah! Have you ever sat in LA traffic?

lol. Worse.  I've been in Honolulu traffic.  We supposedly have the worst (or among the worst) traffic in the country when you factor in wait times.  But I will say drivers in Hawaii are much nicer than mainland drivers. 

[chaos]

lol. Worse.  I've been in Honolulu traffic.  We supposedly have the worst (or among the worst) traffic in the country when you factor in wait times.  But I will say drivers in Hawaii are much nicer than mainland drivers.

You guys in Hawaii doing the Shaka, us in LA doing the one finger Shaka.

[Dos Equis]

You guys in Hawaii doing the Shaka, us in LA doing the one finger Shaka.

Accurate.  I've only had one person ever flip me the bird while driving in Hawaii, and I'm pretty sure he was from the mainland.  lol

We also have an unwritten no honk rule.  You're not supposed to use your horn unless it's to avoid an accident.  So if you are at a light and it changes but you don't move, the person behind you is supposed to just wait.  The overwhelming majority of our people cooperate.  That's one of the things that is really jarring about driving rentals when I travel.  Mainland drivers are not shy about honking at you. 

[chaos]

Accurate.  I've only had one person ever flip me the bird while driving in Hawaii, and I'm pretty sure he was from the mainland.  lol

We also have an unwritten no honk rule.  You're not supposed to use your horn unless it's to avoid an accident.  So if you are at a light and it changes but you don't move, the person behind you is supposed to just wait.  The overwhelming majority of our people cooperate.  That's one of the things that is really jarring about driving rentals when I travel.  Mainland drivers are not shy about honking at you.

Outside of LA the horn isn't as prevalent. Unless you're the guy playing with your phone at every light/traffic stop.

[LurkerNoMore]

If you are fantasizing about murdering someone everyday then you are probably a psychopathic murderer. 

But I understand you are saying that Obama fantasizing about having sex with men, "daily," provides no evidence that he might be gay.  I think most reasonable people would disagree with you.

By your own logic then Trump saying he would date his daughter makes him a pedo then.  Correct?

Most "reasonable people" tend to get their "evidence" from more credible sources than Larry.   But it's ok.  We know you have to believe it no matter what.

[Dos Equis]

Outside of LA the horn isn't as prevalent. Unless you're the guy playing with your phone at every light/traffic stop.

You don't realize how jarring the horn is until you haven't been around it for a while.  It's always one of the most unsettling things about the mainland for me. 

[Dos Equis]

By your own logic then Trump saying he would date his daughter makes him a pedo then.  Correct?

Most "reasonable people" tend to get their "evidence" from more credible sources than Larry.   But it's ok.  We know you have to believe it no matter what.

By my own logic, if Trump had daily sexual fantasies about his daughter I would consider him a pedophile.  What does Obama fantasizing about sex with men, daily, have to do with Trump?

Don't get it twisted.  I can understand someone watching the Larry Sinclair interview and not being convinced (although it convinced me).  My reasonable person comment relates to you believing there is nothing to see about Obama, in his own handwriting, saying he fantasizes about having sex with men.  Daily.   

[Primemuscle]

By my own logic, if Trump had daily sexual fantasies about his daughter I would consider him a pedophile.  What does Obama fantasizing about sex with men, daily, have to do with Trump?

Don't get it twisted.  I can understand someone watching the Larry Sinclair interview and not being convinced (although it convinced me).  My reasonable person comment relates to you believing there is nothing to see about Obama, in his own handwriting, saying he fantasizes about having sex with men.  Daily.   

The operative word is fantasizing. Almost all people fantasize at some point in their lives, including Trump and Obama. Comparing what Obama wrote in a private letter to his girlfriend and Trump speaks about publicly seems reasonable to me.

Define daily, as in did he mean daily, for a week, a month, a year, or forever.

[LurkerNoMore]

By my own logic, if Trump had daily sexual fantasies about his daughter I would consider him a pedophile.  What does Obama fantasizing about sex with men, daily, have to do with Trump?

Don't get it twisted.  I can understand someone watching the Larry Sinclair interview and not being convinced (although it convinced me).  My reasonable person comment relates to you believing there is nothing to see about Obama, in his own handwriting, saying he fantasizes about having sex with men.  Daily.   

So you do agree Trump is a pedophile.  By your own logic and his own words.

It's ok.  You desperately want to believe Obama is gay.  So badly that you will accept the words of a liar, fraudster, criminal, con man who couldn't pass his own polygraph test.  Your desire to believe Obama is gay overrides anything else.  You need to justify your narrative and the only evidence you have is Larry.     If you had better evidence of his sexuality, you would share it.  But you don't.

[LurkerNoMore]

The operative word is fantasizing. Almost all people fantasize at some point in their lives, including Trump and Obama. Comparing what Obama wrote in a private letter to his girlfriend and Trump speaks about publicly seems reasonable to me.

Define daily, as in did he mean daily, for a week, a month, a year, or forever.

All he needs is the words of a liar, conman, criminal, scumbag.  I mean, look how he votes.   

The source of evidence doesn't matter as long it just supports his own biased narrative.

[Dos Equis]

The operative word is fantasizing. Almost all people fantasize at some point in their lives, including Trump and Obama. Comparing what Obama wrote in a private letter to his girlfriend and Trump speaks about publicly seems reasonable to me.

Define daily, as in did he mean daily, for a week, a month, a year, or forever.

No, comparing Obama saying he fantasizes about having sex with men daily to some comment Trump made about his daughter is not reasonable. 

Define daily?  lol 

[Dos Equis]

So you do agree Trump is a pedophile.  By your own logic and his own words.

It's ok.  You desperately want to believe Obama is gay.  So badly that you will accept the words of a liar, fraudster, criminal, con man who couldn't pass his own polygraph test.  Your desire to believe Obama is gay overrides anything else.  You need to justify your narrative and the only evidence you have is Larry.     If you had better evidence of his sexuality, you would share it.  But you don't.

Holy smokes.  I've gone as far as I can go.  Good luck to you.  lol 

[Primemuscle]

No, comparing Obama saying he fantasizes about having sex with men daily to some comment Trump made about his daughter is not reasonable. 

Define daily?  lol

It is perfectly reasonable. Trump speaking publicly about what seem to be his sexual fantasies is hardly limited to one comment about his daughter Ivanka. He has a habit of publicly making inappropriate sexual comments, which better be sexual fantasies, because some them would otherwise be sexual assault and he should have been or be criminally charged for them.

[Dos Equis]

It is perfectly reasonable. Trump speaking publicly about what seem to be his sexual fantasies is hardly limited to one comment about his daughter Ivanka. He has a habit of publicly making inappropriate sexual comments, which better be sexual fantasies, because some them would otherwise be sexual assault and he should have been or be criminally charged for them.

No.  In 2006, former U.S. President Donald Trump said, “I’ve said if Ivanka weren’t my daughter, perhaps I’d be dating her.”

In November 1982, Obama wrote:  "You see, I make love to men daily, but in the imagination.”

If you are telling me those comments are comparable then we will have to agree to disagree.   

It really is just an attempt to not address the actual subject:  whether Obama is gay and has been lying about it. 

[Primemuscle]

No.  In 2006, former U.S. President Donald Trump said, “I’ve said if Ivanka weren’t my daughter, perhaps I’d be dating her.”

In November 1982, Obama wrote:  "You see, I make love to men daily, but in the imagination.”

If you are telling me those comments are comparable then we will have to agree to disagree.   

It really is just an attempt to not address the actual subject:  whether Obama is gay and has been lying about it.

Not when you consider this list of accusations he has denied. What are the chances none of them are true?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/oct/13/list-of-donald-trump-sexual-misconduct-allegations

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/list-trumps-accusers-allegations-sexual-misconduct/story?id=51956410

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/assault-allegations-donald-trump-recapped

https://www.wbez.org/politics/2016/10/14/a-list-of-the-accusations-about-trumps-alleged-inappropriate-sexual-conduct

https://time.com/5058646/donald-trump-accusers

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2017/11/22/president-trump-and-accusations-of-sexual-misconduct-the-complete-list

I could go on, but I think you get the idea.

Trump made these comments during his first campaign which I find interesting because essentially he is admitting the while Obama managed to maintain a clean record with regard to sexual inappropriate behavior, he (Trump) has not. Trump said, "Why doesn’t some woman maybe come up and say what they say falsely about me, they could say about him? They could say it about anybody. They could say it about anybody. I’ll tell you what, he better be careful, because they could say it about anybody. Anybody at all."

Trump is not alone when it comes to being accused to sexual misconduct, but these Presidents have not be so accused, Ford, Carter, and Obama all have not had any sort of allegation (of sexual misconduct).

[chaos]

No.  In 2006, former U.S. President Donald Trump said, “I’ve said if Ivanka weren’t my daughter, perhaps I’d be dating her.”

In November 1982, Obama wrote:  "You see, I make love to men daily, but in the imagination.”

If you are telling me those comments are comparable then we will have to agree to disagree.   

It really is just an attempt to not address the actual subject:  whether Obama is gay and has been lying about it.

You're trying to use logic with two of getbigs biggest liberals.....LOL