Author Topic: For the experts...Sevastase, QuakerOats, GH15...Natural or not?????? (Read 50801 times)

triple_pickle · « **Reply #25 on:** October 13, 2008, 05:39:21 PM »

piss poor deadlift

EwaBeachBoy · « **Reply #26 on:** October 13, 2008, 05:40:05 PM »

Quote from: triple_pickle on October 13, 2008, 05:39:21 PM

piss poor deadlift

Why is that poor?

triple_pickle · « **Reply #27 on:** October 13, 2008, 06:16:43 PM »

compared to his bench and squat

BFP · « **Reply #28 on:** October 13, 2008, 07:01:36 PM »

My thoughts:

He definitely has drawn a pretty good lot from the gene pool. He doesnt have the traps or delts of a guy on juice, nor does there seem to be any real water retention or bloat. However, that being said, he has got some BRUTAL gyno. Did he say he was a lifetime natural? i know that when muscletech first launched their lines of pro hormones, dudes everywhere were getting gyno. Also kind of depends on his definition of natural as well.

Jason

io856 · « **Reply #29 on:** October 13, 2008, 07:07:36 PM »

Quote from: Jason Pegg on October 13, 2008, 07:01:36 PM

My thoughts:

He definitely has drawn a pretty good lot from the gene pool. He doesnt have the traps or delts of a guy on juice, nor does there seem to be any real water retention or bloat.

Not all PEDs cause water retention or bloat.
Its fairly obvious he uses PEDs, I wouldn't expect a response as naive as that from you. I do agree he has good genetics though.

Also, gynecomastia can have many causes and often happens during puberty and it can stay there.

adrain · « **Reply #30 on:** October 13, 2008, 07:09:09 PM »

adrain { big koncrete} here to say my peace then Im done, As far as being a life time natural, its true! Ive never in my life taken any roids hgh of anything of that nature. back when you could buy m1t at gnc 3 or 4 years ago I took some of that! Never have I taken any drugs that were illegal, nor any drugs banned by either one of the natural orgs out there. However I do have a bit of gyno, and as I get older it gets worse! the funny thing is in the bodyspace pics, I was in the best shape in my life! And I got there only taking protein mutli vits and fats burners, I just ate clean year around. So I was even more so natural! Ive been benching 500lbs plus for bout 5 years now! Im 6'3 so squats and deads are not the easiest lifts for someone my height! Since I ve started bodybuilding in 05' Ive gain maybe 15 to 20 lbs, so that about 5 lbs a year what so unnatural bout that?

BFP · « **Reply #31 on:** October 13, 2008, 07:12:19 PM »

Quote from: io856 on October 13, 2008, 07:07:36 PM

Not all PEDs cause water retention or bloat.
Its fairly obvious he uses PEDs, I wouldn't expect a response as naive as that from you. I do agree he has good genetics though.

Also, gynecomastia can have many causes and often happens during puberty and it can stay there.

Well pardon me. I have no idea what a PED is. Performance enhancing drug? As far as that goes, I never said that he WAS natural. Also, the PEDs that are going to get you a 2x bodyweight raw bench ARE going to cause water retention. there is no way around it. save for gallons of diuretics pre contest. I am well aware that gyn ohas many causes as well, but from th elooks of this guy, i seriously doubt that he has puberty induced gyno, especially with his bf5 that low. If he was 15% he would have some C cups.

Jason

BFP · « **Reply #32 on:** October 13, 2008, 07:14:18 PM »

Quote from: adrain on October 13, 2008, 07:09:09 PM

just here to say my peace then Im done, As far as being a life time natural, its true! Ive never in my life taken any roids hgh of anything of that nature. back when you could buy m1t at gnc 3 or 4 years ago I took some of that! Never have I taken any drugs that were illegal, nor any drugs banned by either one of the natural orgs out there. However I do have a bit of gyno, and as I get older it gets worse! the funny thing is in the bodyspace pics, I was in the best shape in my life! And I got there only taking protein mutli vits and fats burners, I just ate clean year around. So I was even more so natural! Ive been benching 500lbs plus for bout 5 years now! Im 6'3 so squats and deads are not the easiest lifts for someone my height! Since I ve started bodybuilding in 05' Ive gain maybe 15 to 20 lbs, so that about 5 lbs a year what so unnatural bout that?

I thought that was it. Reference my above post. and your jacked dude, drug free or not. I really dont give a shit. look big, and pretty strong too.

Jason

io856 · « **Reply #33 on:** October 13, 2008, 07:16:29 PM »

Damn, you should compete in the natural Mr World or something. You sure trump all those competitors. Strong as fuck to boot.

That side chest pose is insane for someone of your height.

Getbig, we have a genetic marvel on our hands.

Good Luck.

adrain · « **Reply #34 on:** October 13, 2008, 07:21:26 PM »

THANKS! Well Im still trying to bring up my weak areas, Calves, Legs, lats! Oh yeah did I say Calves and legs? lol

EwaBeachBoy · « **Reply #35 on:** October 13, 2008, 07:26:53 PM »

Adrain, you need to stay on here and make this your home like the rest of us do.

Be a part of the getbig disfunctional family

3Dkiller · « **Reply #36 on:** October 13, 2008, 07:30:37 PM »

Quote from: io856 on October 13, 2008, 04:52:24 PM

100% natural hard work

hahaha hard work

adrain · « **Reply #37 on:** October 13, 2008, 07:31:56 PM »

WILL DO! I already see a person has to have Thick skin to be on here! YALL PUT PEOPLE ON BLAST! LOL GOT TO TAKE IT WITH A GRAIN OF SALT THO.

thelamefalsehood · « **Reply #38 on:** October 13, 2008, 07:33:43 PM »

Respect for coming on here and standing up for yourself, BUT, you have to admit it would be easy for a seasoned gym rat to call you a juicer. Reson being, naturals can be big and strong(meaning carrying higher percentage of BF), very lean and not as strong, but usually not both. You are big, lean and very strong. On your blog you say you are dieted down and still put up 520 on your last chest day. To put that in perspective, Ron Coleman did 495 for 4 or 5 in Redemption and he was juiced to the gills. You probably are natural since you came on here so quickly to defend yourself, but you gotta admit your stats could make it hard to believe.

EwaBeachBoy · « **Reply #39 on:** October 13, 2008, 07:34:36 PM »

Quote from: adrain on October 13, 2008, 07:31:56 PM

WILL DO! I already see a person has to have Thick skin to be on here! YALL PUT PEOPLE ON BLAST! LOL GOT TO TAKE IT WITH A GRAIN OF SALT THO.

Glad you can make it here.

We like to stir up shit every now and then to make this place interesting.

We talk about everybody here

You should be honored youre a topic on here

tbombz · « **Reply #40 on:** October 13, 2008, 07:38:26 PM »

it would be easy to call him a juicer because......... he is a juicer.

adrain no need to lie here. but of course you will anyway. your quite arrogant and delusional to think that others who have used AAS cant recognize an AAS physique compared a natural one. yuou probably think your fooling everybody in your local gym, too...lol.

guys heres a simple rule... if he looks like he uses steroids = he uses steroids. the human body doesnt build that kind of physique naturally.

adrain · « **Reply #41 on:** October 13, 2008, 07:42:06 PM »

The 520 I just did last week, Iam not fully dieted down at the moment, Iam in a bulking stage added back lots of carbs and cals, when I get strict on my diet and get near the end, I cant do much over 405lb. At one point in time before bb I was in powerlifting benchpress comps, so my bench has always been strong, havent made any big gains.

adrain · « **Reply #42 on:** October 13, 2008, 07:51:20 PM »

I'm not an arrogant person!! Nor do I have a reason to lie about if I have or havent used. I knw what I have taken and the work I have put in. I have personal goals to see how far I can go without the stuff! Aslong as I keep improving no matter how slow Im content! I hear lots of guys say "the body can only get so far naturaly!" But so many people start so young, they never even give TIME a chance! HOW can they Know how far they could have gotten?

GetItOnNY · « **Reply #43 on:** October 13, 2008, 07:52:31 PM »

I beleive the guy is natural.I have seen African American athletes like this guy, look amazing without any anabolics.Alot of African American bodybuilders have really small joints, round muscle bellies, and very fibrous muscle.I have seen guys like this one, who only weighed 200lbs, and look like they weighed 240lbs.If you measured his arm I bet it would be much bigger then 18 1/2" but its looks closer to 20".This is were genetics come in to play.Bodybuilding is all an illusion.Just look at David Henry, he weighs only 202lbs, but looks like he 225 lbs on stage.He gave Toney a Freeman in a pro show not to long ago.How many people do you know look as dense, as hard, or as big as David Henry does, at 202lbs.
The bottom line is this guy is probably natural, he just has really really good genetics.

johnnynoname · « **Reply #44 on:** October 13, 2008, 07:53:05 PM »

most likely BGG with some gas

thelamefalsehood · « **Reply #45 on:** October 13, 2008, 07:56:32 PM »

Quote from: GetItOnNY on October 13, 2008, 07:52:31 PM

I beleive the guy is natural.I have seen African American athletes like this guy, look amazing without any anabolics.Alot of African American bodybuilders have really small joints, round muscle bellies, and very fibrous muscle.I have seen guys like this one, who only weighed 200lbs, and look like they weighed 240lbs.If you measured his arm I bet it would be much bigger then 18 1/2" but its looks closer to 20".This is were genetics come in to play.Bodybuilding is all an illusion.Just look at David Henry, he weighs only 202lbs, but looks like he 225 lbs on stage.He gave Toney a Freeman in a pro show not to long ago.How many people do you know look as dense, as hard, or as big as David Henry does, at 202lbs.
The bottom line is this guy is probably natural, he just has really really good genetics.

Bodyspace says 21in arms and a 29 in waist.

JohnnyVegas · « **Reply #46 on:** October 13, 2008, 07:58:00 PM »

Quote from: thelamefalsehood on October 13, 2008, 07:56:32 PM

Bodyspace says 21in arms and a 29 in waist.

No way

Cleanest Natural · « **Reply #47 on:** October 13, 2008, 08:02:11 PM »

Quote from: adrain on October 13, 2008, 07:09:09 PM

adrain { big koncrete} here to say my peace then Im done, As far as being a life time natural, its true! Ive never in my life taken any roids hgh of anything of that nature. back when you could buy m1t at gnc 3 or 4 years ago I took some of that! Never have I taken any drugs that were illegal, nor any drugs banned by either one of the natural orgs out there. However I do have a bit of gyno, and as I get older it gets worse! the funny thing is in the bodyspace pics, I was in the best shape in my life! And I got there only taking protein mutli vits and fats burners, I just ate clean year around. So I was even more so natural! Ive been benching 500lbs plus for bout 5 years now! Im 6'3 so squats and deads are not the easiest lifts for someone my height! Since I ve started bodybuilding in 05' Ive gain maybe 15 to 20 lbs, so that about 5 lbs a year what so unnatural bout that?

you're fullof shit and you know it ...

I definetely congratulate you on your accomplisments

But no need to lie about it

You are on the juice...will be on it, aslong as you wana resemble a bodybuilder in this lifetime ...

PEACE : you cool bro just stop thAT natural shit ?: it's rediculous

adrain · « **Reply #48 on:** October 13, 2008, 08:13:03 PM »

it's Not rediculous to me! If you knw me you would know its true, If you saw the time I put in, and how hard I work Just to gain my 5lbs a year!! But I will GLADLY TAKE THAT 5LBS, CAUSE I EARNED IT.!

haider · « **Reply #49 on:** October 13, 2008, 08:14:39 PM »

Quote from: adrain on October 13, 2008, 08:13:03 PM

it's Not rediculous to me! If you knw me you would know its true, If you saw the time I put in, and how hard I work Just to gain my 5lbs a year!! But I will GLADLY TAKE THAT 5LBS, CAUSE I EARNED IT.!

if you're really natural then good for you, and you do look incredible. Fuck the doubters as long you are true to yourself. good luck!

Author Topic: For the experts...Sevastase, QuakerOats, GH15...Natural or not?????? (Read 50801 times)

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