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Re: For the experts...Sevastase, QuakerOats, GH15...Natural or not??????
« Reply #425 on: October 24, 2008, 05:44:59 AM »
by the way : my idea of cardio is walking ona slight incline for 1 hour ...or taking an hour walk first thing in the morning on the danube pier on an empty stomach ...

I also consider a stationary bike or a treadmill to be a fantastic investment @ home ...cardio is so time consuming to do at a gym...but at home is PERFECT.

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Re: For the experts...Sevastase, QuakerOats, GH15...Natural or not??????
« Reply #426 on: October 24, 2008, 05:46:28 AM »
the recipes are a good idea!!

I slightly disagree on the supplement issue though, I made a lot of improvements strengthwise and recoverywise with taking BCAA, creatine and beta-alanine.

Some good whey is obligatory as well.

Creatine and beta-alanine has had good results on me when I'm training in the 6-8 reps range or even lower. For more volume, it doesn't do shit for me. And as time goes by, I more and more prefer organic food to whey shakes. I'd rather have a quick snak of 200grams of chicken than a 30gram shake. I couldn't tell if I'm scientifically right or wrong but I get that feeling.

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Re: For the experts...Sevastase, QuakerOats, GH15...Natural or not??????
« Reply #427 on: October 24, 2008, 05:49:18 AM »
the recipes are a good idea!!

I slightly disagree on the supplement issue though, I made a lot of improvements strengthwise and recoverywise with taking BCAA, creatine and beta-alanine.

Some good whey is obligatory as well.
I never use whey

I prefer good quality meats for protein : red ( flank, filet mignon ),fish ( any white and alaskan salmon , sashimi ), chicken and turkey breast. And organic whole eggs ( here , in Romania, as I live right next to a market, if you get up early enough,you can buy whole eggs from farm raised chickens, fed w/ quality grain in someones backyard ... the yolk is a dark yellowish orange as oppossed to light yellow )

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Re: For the experts...Sevastase, QuakerOats, GH15...Natural or not??????
« Reply #428 on: October 24, 2008, 05:53:21 AM »
Creatine and beta-alanine has had good results on me when I'm training in the 6-8 reps range or even lower. For more volume, it doesn't do shit for me. And as time goes by, I more and more prefer organic food to whey shakes. I'd rather have a quick snak of 200grams of chicken than a 30gram shake. I couldn't tell if I'm scientifically right or wrong but I get that feeling.
you are right IMO.


Here's why ...

Protein like any other ingestable organic matter ( veggies are organic too as they have a life essence also..but we seem to purposely disregard that ) has something called bioavailability.

This something is lost when powderizing low grade protein ( although they'll all lie and say it's high )

also when you ingest meats and or veggies you also INGEST THEIR VIBRATIONAL IMPRINT LEFT IN THE ORGANIC MATTER AFTER THE LIFE ESSENCE HAS DEPARTED .



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Re: For the experts...Sevastase, QuakerOats, GH15...Natural or not??????
« Reply #429 on: October 24, 2008, 05:56:24 AM »
You are right on the food vs supplement debate, but whey shakes are just convenient.


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Re: For the experts...Sevastase, QuakerOats, GH15...Natural or not??????
« Reply #430 on: October 24, 2008, 06:36:00 AM »
I stopped reading after a couple pages but did this guy ever figure out that m1t is a steroid? a very powerful steroid.
 
so he was *on* for a year. does he get that? if he's too stupid to understand that he's a special person.
he never did m1t ... it's a habitual copout for juicers to justify unnatural gains.


holy fuck...I definetely would !

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Re: For the experts...Sevastase, QuakerOats, GH15...Natural or not??????
« Reply #431 on: October 24, 2008, 07:25:20 AM »
I stopped reading after a couple pages but did this guy ever figure out that m1t is a steroid? a very powerful steroid.
 
so he was *on* for a year. does he get that? if he's too stupid to understand that he's a special person.
YOUR A SPECIAL PERSON!  I NEVER SAID I WAS on m1t for a year!  I said m1t was the first ph that I tryed, and I got it from gnc. There were other pro horm out!  JUST CAUSE YOU SAY IT IS DONT MEAN ITS TRUE, OTHER DNT THINK IT IS? GNC DIDNT THINK IT WAs.  AT THE TIME THE NATURAL ORG DIDNT THINK THEY WERE, IT WASNT BANNED BACK THEN.  SO WHATEVER!  AND iT WAS'NT POWERFUL ENUFF TO PUT 20 TO 30LBS ON ME.

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Re: For the experts...Sevastase, QuakerOats, GH15...Natural or not??????
« Reply #432 on: October 24, 2008, 07:31:54 AM »
YOUR A SPECIAL PERSON!  I NEVER SAID I WAS on m1t for a year!  I said m1t was the first ph that I tryed, and I got it from gnc. There were other pro horm out!  JUST CAUSE YOU SAY IT IS DONT MEAN ITS TRUE, OTHER DNT THINK IT IS? GNC DIDNT THINK IT WAs.  AT THE TIME THE NATURAL ORG DIDNT THINK THEY WERE, IT WASNT BANNED BACK THEN.  SO WHATEVER!  AND iT WAS'NT POWERFUL ENUFF TO PUT 20 TO 30LBS ON ME.
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stfu ...you must be on crack to think that anyone buys your spiel ....it's insulting

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Re: For the experts...Sevastase, QuakerOats, GH15...Natural or not??????
« Reply #433 on: October 24, 2008, 07:38:02 AM »
he never did m1t ... it's a habitual copout for juicers to justify unnatural gains.


holy fuck...I definetely would !
sevastase YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT!  SEE WITH YOU, YOU BELIEVE I TOOK MORE THAN  JUST M1T OR PH'S, The others believe m1t was so so STRONG, THERE FOR ITS NOT NATURAL.  YET THEY BUY Creatine and beta-alanine AND OTHERS SUPPS, THATS NOT NATURAL EITHER.  WELL ALL TAKE IN SUPPS, IF DONKEY IS NATURAL THEN I AM NATURAL AS WELL.  I WOULD BET HE BUT MORE CHEMICALS IN HIS BODY THAN I DO MINE.  ALL THE PICS THAT YOU SEE on bodyspace.  I  only used FOOD, PROTEIN, LIPO 6. MULTI VITS TO GET THERE. AS FAR AS unnatural gains!  like i told you since i've started in 05' I ve made no big jumps or big changes.  ITS ALL A SLOW HARD PROGRESS! THIS PIC IS FROM MY SECOND SHOW EVER!  BEFORE THE PH'S!  LIKE I SAID NO BIG CHANGES. JUST HARD WORK

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Re: For the experts...Sevastase, QuakerOats, GH15...Natural or not??????
« Reply #434 on: October 24, 2008, 08:25:34 AM »
sevastase YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT!  SEE WITH YOU, YOU BELIEVE I TOOK MORE THAN  JUST M1T OR PH'S, The others believe m1t was so so STRONG, THERE FOR ITS NOT NATURAL.  YET THEY BUY Creatine and beta-alanine AND OTHERS SUPPS, THATS NOT NATURAL EITHER.  WELL ALL TAKE IN SUPPS, IF DONKEY IS NATURAL THEN I AM NATURAL AS WELL.  I WOULD BET HE BUT MORE CHEMICALS IN HIS BODY THAN I DO MINE.  ALL THE PICS THAT YOU SEE on bodyspace.  I  only used FOOD, PROTEIN, LIPO 6. MULTI VITS TO GET THERE. AS FAR AS unnatural gains!  like i told you since i've started in 05' I ve made no big jumps or big changes.  ITS ALL A SLOW HARD PROGRESS! THIS PIC IS FROM MY SECOND SHOW EVER!  BEFORE THE PH'S!  LIKE I SAID NO BIG CHANGES. JUST HARD WORK
adrian ..you keep going on andon ...with the I'mnatural crap

I want to like you but you just lie !

you used way more than m1t to buildyour body brotha ...you forget tht there are people here you cannot fool causewe been there done that ..

you used PLENTY of hormones aas t3/clen/etc ..

be a man about it ...it won't lessen your accomplishments

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Re: For the experts...Sevastase, QuakerOats, GH15...Natural or not??????
« Reply #435 on: October 24, 2008, 08:26:31 AM »
If a japanese pro wrestler can beat four Gracies, then I believe anything



What are you trying to say about the great Sakuraba?

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Re: For the experts...Sevastase, QuakerOats, GH15...Natural or not??????
« Reply #436 on: October 24, 2008, 08:51:14 AM »
I would be a MORON if I believed u JAMES! WHAT DO U KNOW?

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Re: For the experts...Sevastase, QuakerOats, GH15...Natural or not??????
« Reply #437 on: October 24, 2008, 09:35:07 AM »
SO WHAT?

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Re: For the experts...Sevastase, QuakerOats, GH15...Natural or not??????
« Reply #438 on: October 24, 2008, 09:35:40 AM »
sevastase YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT!  SEE WITH YOU, YOU BELIEVE I TOOK MORE THAN  JUST M1T OR PH'S, The others believe m1t was so so STRONG, THERE FOR ITS NOT NATURAL.  YET THEY BUY Creatine and beta-alanine AND OTHERS SUPPS, THATS NOT NATURAL EITHER.  WELL ALL TAKE IN SUPPS, IF DONKEY IS NATURAL THEN I AM NATURAL AS WELL.  I WOULD BET HE BUT MORE CHEMICALS IN HIS BODY THAN I DO MINE.  ALL THE PICS THAT YOU SEE on bodyspace.  I  only used FOOD, PROTEIN, LIPO 6. MULTI VITS TO GET THERE. AS FAR AS unnatural gains!  like i told you since i've started in 05' I ve made no big jumps or big changes.  ITS ALL A SLOW HARD PROGRESS! THIS PIC IS FROM MY SECOND SHOW EVER!  BEFORE THE PH'S!  LIKE I SAID NO BIG CHANGES. JUST HARD WORK

Your second show and natural? Of course, boy! As the great Al Pacino once said in one of his most famous role: "It insults my intelligence".

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Re: For the experts...Sevastase, QuakerOats, GH15...Natural or not??????
« Reply #439 on: October 24, 2008, 09:53:21 AM »
YES RZA! NATURAL! MY POINT IS before u start telling others WHAT THEY HAVE OR HAVE NOT TAKEN TO GET WHERE THEY ARE! MAYBE U SHOULD LOOK AT THEIR STARTING POINT! I DIDNT START OUT WEIGHTING 160LBS!  I'VE LIFTED IN HIGH SCHOOL FOR SPORTS' ALSO DURNING football offseason I WAS UP IN THE WEIGHT ROOM AT 5:30am mon-fri for my POWERLIFTING CLASS!  THAT IS YEARS OF WORK, THIS IS NOT AN OVER NIGHT THING. I PAID MY DUES, AND NOBODY CAN OR SHOULD EVEN TRY TO TAKE IT FROM ME.

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Re: For the experts...Sevastase, QuakerOats, GH15...Natural or not??????
« Reply #440 on: October 24, 2008, 10:11:45 AM »
Adrain, you're the dumbest fuck i have come across. Apparently, to you some guy at GNC is trustworthier than chemical analysis and 1000 medical experts. Its common FACT that M1T is a steroid. You insult all of getbig when you claim you are natural.

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Re: For the experts...Sevastase, QuakerOats, GH15...Natural or not??????
« Reply #441 on: October 24, 2008, 10:15:03 AM »
I gather that you guys don't think adrain is natural?

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Re: For the experts...Sevastase, QuakerOats, GH15...Natural or not??????
« Reply #442 on: October 24, 2008, 10:21:20 AM »
DONKEY U ARE JUST UPSET THAT U ARE A "SO CALLED" natural yourself! And u cant grow anymore, cant get stronger, cant improve!  TELL U WHAT TAKE M1T AND SEE IF U GET 20in arms, see if u BENCH 500LBS POUNDS. THEN GET AT ME! THAT WOULD MAKE ME BELIEVE!

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Re: For the experts...Sevastase, QuakerOats, GH15...Natural or not??????
« Reply #443 on: October 24, 2008, 10:42:03 AM »
Meltdown.

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Re: For the experts...Sevastase, QuakerOats, GH15...Natural or not??????
« Reply #444 on: October 24, 2008, 10:43:37 AM »
Hey sev, that's wicked that you cook too. Even in my pinner days where I'd only eat like 1 meal a day, it would always be super ballin'

When I was hell bent on counting my macros it discouraged me that I could only eat perfect proportions, but now I just cook whatever, whenever. No need to count protein and macronutrients right down to the gram. The best meal is always the one you cook yourself, unless you're a fuckwit who's idea of gourmet is White Cheddar Macaroni and Cheese lol. Lately I've just been eating steak (just toss some soy sauce, fish sauce and sugar on it in the frying pan), baby bok choi and lots of white rice. Not as much time to cook as I'd prefer, and my bro and roommate never clean the kitchen.

adrain, you still going postal over this shit? It's just the internet, man. If you only used m1t I would like to buy you a steroid cycle and see what you're capable of... but for some reason I get the inclination that you may be a little bit modest about your drug use. The best thing to do in a situation like this is to not cry natural and just stop drawing attention to yourself. Even if you're on every drug under the sun, you've got an amazing physique worth bragging about. On here, we refer to your reaction as a "brutal, epic meltdown". We are a figment of your imagination. It's the internet, bud.

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Re: For the experts...Sevastase, QuakerOats, GH15...Natural or not??????
« Reply #445 on: October 24, 2008, 10:48:35 AM »
how come when I reply to something said ITS A MELTDOWN? LOL U DUDES ARE SOMETHING ELSE,

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Re: For the experts...Sevastase, QuakerOats, GH15...Natural or not??????
« Reply #446 on: October 24, 2008, 02:11:32 PM »
Meltdown.

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Re: For the experts...Sevastase, QuakerOats, GH15...Natural or not??????
« Reply #447 on: October 24, 2008, 02:24:41 PM »
how come when I reply to something said ITS A MELTDOWN? LOL U DUDES ARE SOMETHING ELSE,

Holy meltdown.

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Re: For the experts...Sevastase, QuakerOats, GH15...Natural or not??????
« Reply #448 on: October 24, 2008, 02:32:53 PM »
What are you trying to say about the great Sakuraba?

that sakuraba what sakuraba did is GOD like

plus, if you think about it, sakuraba is the "jesus christ of pro wrestling" and ricardo arona was the ponius pilot.  Unfortunatly though, I don't see any easter sunday in his future and ,mind you, i'm a HUGE sakuraba mark

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Re: For the experts...Sevastase, QuakerOats, GH15...Natural or not??????
« Reply #449 on: October 24, 2008, 02:34:20 PM »
btw, sevatese

your a smart guy (i'm not trying to be sarcastic) but why are you doing 2 hours of cardio when any form of empty stomach HIIT is wayyyyy more efficient