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how did Mohammed Benaziza die?
why did he die?
why did he refuse to go to the hospital even though he was ill

rip momo who died this month back in 92

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Re: why did Mohammed Benaziza go to the hospital in 1992 in the netherlands?
« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2008, 05:02:50 PM »
Flex mag: Momo drank almost no water the week of the show.

Just ground up apples in the blender.

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Re: why did Mohammed Benaziza go to the hospital in 1992 in the netherlands?
« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2008, 05:04:29 PM »
so water killed him

or rather lack of water

maybe the same thing that killed evan tanner in the desert

how many people on this planet have died because of no water ?

without water we cannot live

bodybuilder or non bodybuilder

water is the essential ingredient to life on this planet and we must not forget that
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Re: why did Mohammed Benaziza go to the hospital in 1992 in the netherlands?
« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2008, 05:07:53 PM »
Momo won the show that night he died.  Dutch Pro I think.

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Re: why did Mohammed Benaziza go to the hospital in 1992 in the netherlands?
« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2008, 05:09:56 PM »
some claimed he died of heart failure

i wish he would have died on stage

imgine that winning the show holding the trophy and then go down in a blaze of glory

that would be fuckn awesome
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Re: why did Mohammed Benaziza go to the hospital in 1992 in the netherlands?
« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2008, 06:00:52 PM »
he died for you bitches


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Re: why did Mohammed Benaziza go to the hospital in 1992 in the netherlands?
« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2008, 06:06:22 PM »
Momo along with guys like Sean Ray, Lee Priest, Danny Padilla and Labrada, was not only a great short bber, but could also hang with the bigger guys.

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Re: why did Mohammed Benaziza go to the hospital in 1992 in the netherlands?
« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2008, 08:34:51 PM »
I have a tape of FIBO92 and he is amazing. I thought it was Samir at first because i had never seen him before. He definately had awesome thickness and from that i can see how he beat Dorian in the 1990 NOC.

Edgar Flecter was also amazing on that video he definately had a top pro physique in 1992 just couldn't get there.

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Re: why did Mohammed Benaziza go to the hospital in 1992 in the netherlands?
« Reply #8 on: October 14, 2008, 08:45:54 PM »
some claimed he died of heart failure

i wish he would have died on stage

imgine that winning the show holding the trophy and then go down in a blaze of glory

that would be fuckn awesome

I THOUGHT YOU WERE AN ASSHOLE FOR ASKING THESE QUESTIONS ORIGINALLY, WHICH MEANS YOU ALREADY KNOW/KNEW THE ANSWERS...TO NOW GO ON SAYING YOU WISH HE WOULD HAVE DIED ON STAGE AND THAT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN AWESOME... ONLY CONFIRMS IT....
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Re: why did Mohammed Benaziza go to the hospital in 1992 in the netherlands?
« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2008, 09:16:37 PM »
I THOUGHT YOU WERE AN ASSHOLE FOR ASKING THESE QUESTIONS ORIGINALLY, WHICH MEANS YOU ALREADY KNOW/KNEW THE ANSWERS...TO NOW GO ON SAYING YOU WISH HE WOULD HAVE DIED ON STAGE AND THAT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN AWESOME... ONLY CONFIRMS IT....

isnt it better to go down on stage at the top of ones game rather than a hotel room? dont you see the poetic beauty in that
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Re: why did Mohammed Benaziza go to the hospital in 1992 in the netherlands?
« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2008, 12:44:10 AM »
isnt it better to go down on stage at the top of ones game rather than a hotel room? dont you see the poetic beauty in that

stfu loser.

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Re: why did Mohammed Benaziza go to the hospital in 1992 in the netherlands?
« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2008, 12:49:50 AM »
Porter Cottrell tried to revive him (a fireman) in his hotel room after Steve Brisbois called him (Brisbois and Momo were good friends). He started vomitting water (the signs of death, especially for one as dehydrated as Momo) and they just watched him slip away in a hotel room. The crash cart didn't revive him.

Momo's muscles felt like petrified wood. He'd over-depleted potassium levels with Lasix. He was too far gone to be saved by the time real medical attention arrived. Maybe an IV drip of potassium/insulin, but there was talk amongst Cottrell and Brisebois that he was too far gone.

Shame.

Spot on. I met him just days before he died. This was at the British Grand Prix he looked incredible. Nice guy.

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Re: why did Mohammed Benaziza go to the hospital in 1992 in the netherlands?
« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2008, 01:05:08 AM »
i heard he died of hi potassium not low

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Re: why did Mohammed Benaziza go to the hospital in 1992 in the netherlands?
« Reply #13 on: October 15, 2008, 08:14:32 AM »
he wanted to meet Mars at least once.

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Re: why did Mohammed Benaziza go to the hospital in 1992 in the netherlands?
« Reply #14 on: October 15, 2008, 08:19:11 AM »
he wanted to meet Mars at least once.

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Re: why did Mohammed Benaziza go to the hospital in 1992 in the netherlands?
« Reply #15 on: October 15, 2008, 08:37:37 AM »
Milos Sarcev should have some information on this as I believe he was there to help.

PS - the original poster is a complete piece of shit an I hope he dies by dehydration while competing in BB!

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Re: why did Mohammed Benaziza go to the hospital in 1992 in the netherlands?
« Reply #16 on: November 21, 2008, 09:39:41 PM »
Momo was taking Potassium sparing diuretic (ALDACTONE/Spirinolactone) for several days while carbing up with foods containing high amounts of potassium...

I am not sure IF he used INSULIN at the time...Some people claim he did - I simply don't know and would not want to assume...

There is NO difference anyway...insulin or not he was hyperkalemic (condition where TOO MUCH potassium was circulating in his blood stream).

Mistake of the doctor was catastrophic - and I would like to warn some of the competitors here on board of possible outcome IF they or someone they know - take potassium sparing diuretics in their contest preparation.

While carbing up for the show - usual choices of carbs for bodybuilders are also HIGH in potassium - which means - in couple of days of eating high amounts of carbohydrate containing foods which are also (accidently) filled with high levels of potassium... while taking pharmaceutical agent (type of diuretics from potassium sparing group of diuretics...most commonly used in bodybuilding circles is ALDACTONE - brand name of Spirinolactone ) which causes accumulation of potassium in blood circulation of competitors choosing common method of "peaking" for bodybuilding events...

To add "insult to injury" at the same time (last two - three days leading up to the show) bodybuilders restrict their fluid intake (individual differences go from slightly reducing their usual amounts of fluids - to drastic reductions) and some actually - COMPLETELY ELIMINATE IT...Some eliminate for just several hours...but some (even certain mr. olympia winner :-X) eliminate every type of fluids for 1-2 even 3 days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Some competitors "compromise" and take watery types of fruits instead...and that was the case with Momo.

I actually happen to know A LOT OF his "secrets" as we discussed numerous things and exchanged our experiences...

Momo was taking pounds of apples...He would peel them and than make apple sauce from it.

That was his absolute favorite choice of carbs for "loading phase"...and he would not drink anything LAST TWO DAYS...while taking Aldactone + Aldactazide...and occasionally additional diuretics IF he needs it...Which was the case at that 1992 Euro Tour.

Anyway, he was KILLED by LETHAL INJECTION from ignorant doctor (??? actually WHO KNOWS IF moron who came to Momo's room was licensed...? ) Hmmmm, Thierry Pastel was the only guy who was present when doctor Moron came to Momos room and brilliantly - without checking the levels of potassium in Momos blood - injected, one of the very best bodybuilders and absolutely wonderful human being Mohammed Momo Benaziza - with Potassium injection...assuming that Momo must be HYPOKALEMIC instead...

Assumption of medical practitioners when they see dehydrated person is - that due to diuresis and loss of large amounts of water - particular person must be in hypokalemic state (when insufficient amount of potassium is floating around in the blood stream - due to "mineral flush" i.e. loss of minerals caused by loss of large amounts of water or dehydration...)...

It is CRITICAL to check levels of potassium of dehydrated patient before anyone injects that patient with usual potassium or injection that contains mixture of electrolytes/minerals particularly also high in potassium...)

To hydrate patient saline solution would be fine...but NO potassium in any shape or form should be administered to dehydrated patient who used potassium sparing diuretics in contest preparation...!

Remember that - as it might save some lives...

PS - I wrote the article about it...it is "somewhere" on my board....HYPERKALEMIA article in European Flex section...I can find it right now - as I must run...


I hope this helps...







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Re: why did Mohammed Benaziza go to the hospital in 1992 in the netherlands?
« Reply #17 on: November 21, 2008, 09:43:38 PM »
Momo was taking Potassium sparing diuretic (ALDACTONE/Spirinolactone) for several days while carbing up with foods containing high amounts of potassium...

I am not sure IF he used INSULIN at the time...Some people claim he did - I simply don't know and would not want to assume...

There is NO difference anyway...insulin or not he was hyperkalemic (condition where TOO MUCH potassium was circulating in his blood stream).

Mistake of the doctor was catastrophic - and I would like to warn some of the competitors here on board of possible outcome IF they or someone they know - take potassium sparing diuretics in their contest preparation.

While carbing up for the show - usual choices of carbs for bodybuilders are also HIGH in potassium - which means - in couple of days of eating high amounts of carbohydrate containing foods which are also (accidently) filled with high levels of potassium... while taking pharmaceutical agent (type of diuretics from potassium sparing group of diuretics...most commonly used in bodybuilding circles is ALDACTONE - brand name of Spirinolactone ) which causes accumulation of potassium in blood circulation of competitors choosing common method of "peaking" for bodybuilding events...

To add "insult to injury" at the same time (last two - three days leading up to the show) bodybuilders restrict their fluid intake (individual differences go from slightly reducing their usual amounts of fluids - to drastic reductions) and some actually - COMPLETELY ELIMINATE IT...Some eliminate for just several hours...but some (even certain mr. olympia winner :-X) eliminate every type of fluids for 1-2 even 3 days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Some competitors "compromise" and take watery types of fruits instead...and that was the case with Momo.

I actually happen to know A LOT OF his "secrets" as we discussed numerous things and exchanged our experiences...

Momo was taking pounds of apples...He would peel them and than make apple sauce from it.

That was his absolute favorite choice of carbs for "loading phase"...and he would not drink anything LAST TWO DAYS...while taking Aldactone + Aldactazide...and occasionally additional diuretics IF he needs it...Which was the case at that 1992 Euro Tour.

Anyway, he was KILLED by LETHAL INJECTION from ignorant doctor (??? actually WHO KNOWS IF moron who came to Momo's room was licensed...? ) Hmmmm, Thierry Pastel was the only guy who was present when doctor Moron came to Momos room and brilliantly - without checking the levels of potassium in Momos blood - injected, one of the very best bodybuilders and absolutely wonderful human being Mohammed Momo Benaziza - with Potassium injection...assuming that Momo must be HYPOKALEMIC instead...

Assumption of medical practitioners when they see dehydrated person is - that due to diuresis and loss of large amounts of water - particular person must be in hypokalemic state (when insufficient amount of potassium is floating around in the blood stream - due to "mineral flush" i.e. loss of minerals caused by loss of large amounts of water or dehydration...)...

It is CRITICAL to check levels of potassium of dehydrated patient before anyone injects that patient with usual potassium or injection that contains mixture of electrolytes/minerals particularly also high in potassium...)

To hydrate patient saline solution would be fine...but NO potassium in any shape or form should be administered to dehydrated patient who used potassium sparing diuretics in contest preparation...!

Remember that - as it might save some lives...

PS - I wrote the article about it...it is "somewhere" on my board....HYPERKALEMIA article in European Flex section...I can find it right now - as I must run...


I hope this helps...








So he was KILLED by an ignorant doctor?  IMO, many people trust doctors simply bc they have a title....truth is, there aren't too many great doctors out there.  Many of them are excellent at taking tests but not so good at making good decisions.

Tragic.

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Re: why did Mohammed Benaziza go to the hospital in 1992 in the netherlands?
« Reply #18 on: November 21, 2008, 09:55:37 PM »
Momo was taking Potassium sparing diuretic (ALDACTONE/Spirinolactone) for several days while carbing up with foods containing high amounts of potassium...

I am not sure IF he used INSULIN at the time...Some people claim he did - I simply don't know and would not want to assume...

There is NO difference anyway...insulin or not he was hyperkalemic (condition where TOO MUCH potassium was circulating in his blood stream).

Mistake of the doctor was catastrophic - and I would like to warn some of the competitors here on board of possible outcome IF they or someone they know - take potassium sparing diuretics in their contest preparation.

While carbing up for the show - usual choices of carbs for bodybuilders are also HIGH in potassium - which means - in couple of days of eating high amounts of carbohydrate containing foods which are also (accidently) filled with high levels of potassium... while taking pharmaceutical agent (type of diuretics from potassium sparing group of diuretics...most commonly used in bodybuilding circles is ALDACTONE - brand name of Spirinolactone ) which causes accumulation of potassium in blood circulation of competitors choosing common method of "peaking" for bodybuilding events...

To add "insult to injury" at the same time (last two - three days leading up to the show) bodybuilders restrict their fluid intake (individual differences go from slightly reducing their usual amounts of fluids - to drastic reductions) and some actually - COMPLETELY ELIMINATE IT...Some eliminate for just several hours...but some (even certain mr. olympia winner :-X) eliminate every type of fluids for 1-2 even 3 days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Some competitors "compromise" and take watery types of fruits instead...and that was the case with Momo.

I actually happen to know A LOT OF his "secrets" as we discussed numerous things and exchanged our experiences...

Momo was taking pounds of apples...He would peel them and than make apple sauce from it.

That was his absolute favorite choice of carbs for "loading phase"...and he would not drink anything LAST TWO DAYS...while taking Aldactone + Aldactazide...and occasionally additional diuretics IF he needs it...Which was the case at that 1992 Euro Tour.

Anyway, he was KILLED by LETHAL INJECTION from ignorant doctor (??? actually WHO KNOWS IF moron who came to Momo's room was licensed...? ) Hmmmm, Thierry Pastel was the only guy who was present when doctor Moron came to Momos room and brilliantly - without checking the levels of potassium in Momos blood - injected, one of the very best bodybuilders and absolutely wonderful human being Mohammed Momo Benaziza - with Potassium injection...assuming that Momo must be HYPOKALEMIC instead...

Assumption of medical practitioners when they see dehydrated person is - that due to diuresis and loss of large amounts of water - particular person must be in hypokalemic state (when insufficient amount of potassium is floating around in the blood stream - due to "mineral flush" i.e. loss of minerals caused by loss of large amounts of water or dehydration...)...

It is CRITICAL to check levels of potassium of dehydrated patient before anyone injects that patient with usual potassium or injection that contains mixture of electrolytes/minerals particularly also high in potassium...)

To hydrate patient saline solution would be fine...but NO potassium in any shape or form should be administered to dehydrated patient who used potassium sparing diuretics in contest preparation...!

Remember that - as it might save some lives...

PS - I wrote the article about it...it is "somewhere" on my board....HYPERKALEMIA article in European Flex section...I can find it right now - as I must run...


I hope this helps...








Jesus, the quack murdered him...damn.

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Re: why did Mohammed Benaziza go to the hospital in 1992 in the netherlands?
« Reply #19 on: November 21, 2008, 10:11:25 PM »
Momo was taking Potassium sparing diuretic (ALDACTONE/Spirinolactone) for several days while carbing up with foods containing high amounts of potassium...

I am not sure IF he used INSULIN at the time...Some people claim he did - I simply don't know and would not want to assume...

There is NO difference anyway...insulin or not he was hyperkalemic (condition where TOO MUCH potassium was circulating in his blood stream).

Mistake of the doctor was catastrophic - and I would like to warn some of the competitors here on board of possible outcome IF they or someone they know - take potassium sparing diuretics in their contest preparation.

While carbing up for the show - usual choices of carbs for bodybuilders are also HIGH in potassium - which means - in couple of days of eating high amounts of carbohydrate containing foods which are also (accidently) filled with high levels of potassium... while taking pharmaceutical agent (type of diuretics from potassium sparing group of diuretics...most commonly used in bodybuilding circles is ALDACTONE - brand name of Spirinolactone ) which causes accumulation of potassium in blood circulation of competitors choosing common method of "peaking" for bodybuilding events...

To add "insult to injury" at the same time (last two - three days leading up to the show) bodybuilders restrict their fluid intake (individual differences go from slightly reducing their usual amounts of fluids - to drastic reductions) and some actually - COMPLETELY ELIMINATE IT...Some eliminate for just several hours...but some (even certain mr. olympia winner :-X) eliminate every type of fluids for 1-2 even 3 days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Some competitors "compromise" and take watery types of fruits instead...and that was the case with Momo.

I actually happen to know A LOT OF his "secrets" as we discussed numerous things and exchanged our experiences...

Momo was taking pounds of apples...He would peel them and than make apple sauce from it.

That was his absolute favorite choice of carbs for "loading phase"...and he would not drink anything LAST TWO DAYS...while taking Aldactone + Aldactazide...and occasionally additional diuretics IF he needs it...Which was the case at that 1992 Euro Tour.

Anyway, he was KILLED by LETHAL INJECTION from ignorant doctor (??? actually WHO KNOWS IF moron who came to Momo's room was licensed...? ) Hmmmm, Thierry Pastel was the only guy who was present when doctor Moron came to Momos room and brilliantly - without checking the levels of potassium in Momos blood - injected, one of the very best bodybuilders and absolutely wonderful human being Mohammed Momo Benaziza - with Potassium injection...assuming that Momo must be HYPOKALEMIC instead...

Assumption of medical practitioners when they see dehydrated person is - that due to diuresis and loss of large amounts of water - particular person must be in hypokalemic state (when insufficient amount of potassium is floating around in the blood stream - due to "mineral flush" i.e. loss of minerals caused by loss of large amounts of water or dehydration...)...

It is CRITICAL to check levels of potassium of dehydrated patient before anyone injects that patient with usual potassium or injection that contains mixture of electrolytes/minerals particularly also high in potassium...)

To hydrate patient saline solution would be fine...but NO potassium in any shape or form should be administered to dehydrated patient who used potassium sparing diuretics in contest preparation...!

Remember that - as it might save some lives...

PS - I wrote the article about it...it is "somewhere" on my board....HYPERKALEMIA article in European Flex section...I can find it right now - as I must run...


I hope this helps...









When dr moron walk into momo is room was he aware  of what's going on or out?
Was he killed immediately after the injection?

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Re: why did Mohammed Benaziza go to the hospital in 1992 in the netherlands?
« Reply #20 on: November 21, 2008, 10:12:17 PM »
So he was KILLED by an ignorant doctor?  IMO, many people trust doctors simply bc they have a title....truth is, there aren't too many great doctors out there.  Many of them are excellent at taking tests but not so good at making good decisions.

Tragic.

this is the truth..doctors are not smart people, I have worked with them..they are not smart, they only know protocols that were taught to them, the are not good at thinking on their own...always seek out the best doctor and ask lots and lots of questions.

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Re: why did Mohammed Benaziza go to the hospital in 1992 in the netherlands?
« Reply #21 on: November 21, 2008, 10:13:42 PM »
this is the truth..doctors are not smart people, I have worked with them..they are not smart, they only know protocols that were taught to them, the are not good at thinking on their own...always seek out the best doctor and ask lots and lots of questions.

This is true. Most academically smart individuals lack common sense.

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Re: why did Mohammed Benaziza go to the hospital in 1992 in the netherlands?
« Reply #22 on: November 21, 2008, 10:14:30 PM »
Mo was never really well liked on the circuit.  Yes, he had the familiar circle of hangers-on, however, real and true supporters were in short supply.

I never liked his look.  I thought he was quite ugly to tell you the truth.  It was more than his grotesque muscle bellies, Mo was just plain and simple boring and uncreative.

Yes, it takes more than a needle and a good drug dealer to stand out a Pro of substance.

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Re: why did Mohammed Benaziza go to the hospital in 1992 in the netherlands?
« Reply #23 on: November 21, 2008, 10:16:48 PM »
Mo was never really well liked on the circuit.  Yes, he had the familiar circle of hangers-on, however, real and true supporters were in short supply.

I never liked his look.  I thought he was quite ugly to tell you the truth.  It was more than his grotesque muscle bellies, Mo was just plain and simple boring and uncreative.

Yes, it takes more than a needle and a good drug dealer to stand out a Pro of substance.


Did you hear that he died?

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Re: why did Mohammed Benaziza go to the hospital in 1992 in the netherlands?
« Reply #24 on: November 21, 2008, 10:18:51 PM »
this is the truth..doctors are not smart people, I have worked with them..they are not smart, they only know protocols that were taught to them, the are not good at thinking on their own...always seek out the best doctor and ask lots and lots of questions.

I have a close family member who is a doc and VERY SPECIALIZED.  She completely lacks common sense...its rather appalling, really.  It was a great learning experience for me to see such an educated person have such little versatility in other areas...even in medicine.