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The Left Declares War On Joe The Plumber
« on: October 17, 2008, 12:09:46 PM »
The Left Declares War On Joe The Plumber
By Michelle Malkin
October 17, 2008

Six-term Sen. Joe Biden's got some nerve going after citizen Joe the Plumber. But the entrenched politician from Delaware, who fancies himself the nation's No. 1 Ordinary Joe, had no choice. Obama-Biden simply can't tolerate an outspoken citizen successfully painting the Democratic ticket as socialist overlords. And so a dirty, desperate war against Joe Wurzelbacher is on.

The left's political plumbers are attacking the messenger, rummaging through his personal life and predictably wielding the race card once again. It's standard operating procedure for the Obama thug machine.

Wurzelbacher, in case you've been in hibernation, is the small-business man from Ohio who questioned Obama about his tax plan during a Toledo campaign swing last weekend. The revealing exchange was caught on tape and broadcast widely across the Internet and TV airwaves.

In response to Wurzelbacher's question about why he should be "taxed more and more for fulfilling the American dream," Obama sermonized that he needed to "spread the wealth around" because "it's good for everybody."

John McCain flung that chilling Marxist mantra back in Obama's face during Wednesday night's presidential debate and repeatedly cited Joe the Plumber's plight.

Obama squirmed. The dirt-diggers started Googling. And the next morning, six-term Sen. Biden launched the first salvo against the Ohio entrepreneur on NBC's "Today Show," challenging the veracity of his story: "I don't have any Joe the Plumbers in my neighborhood that make $250,000 a year."

Under an Obama-Biden administration, they'll make sure no Joe the Plumbers ever earn such a salary. "It's good for everybody," don't you know?

Biden, as is so often the case, twisted the facts about Wurzelbacher. No surprise there. Slick Joe Biden is the one who tells fables about visiting a diner in Delaware that hasn't been open in years; spins yarns about getting "forced down" in a helicopter over Afghanistan because of perilous conditions that turned out to be weather related, not al-Qaida related; and continues to slander the family of the man involved in his wife and daughter's fatal car accident (crash investigators cleared the now-deceased driver of drunk driving, despite Biden's insinuations). But I digress.

Wurzelbacher never claimed to be making $250,000 a year. He told Obama that he might be "getting ready to buy a company that makes about $250,000, $270,000" a year. His simple point was that Obama's punitive tax proposals would make it more difficult to realize his dream.

Obama's followers couldn't handle the incontrovertible truth. Left-wing blogs immediately went to work, blaring headlines like "Not A Real $250k Plumber!" Next, they falsely accused Wurzelbacher of not being registered to vote -- he's registered in Lucas County, Ohio, and voted as a Republican in this year's primary.

Next, they called him a liar for identifying himself as undecided. Only registered Democrats and fake Republican tools used in mainstream media stories and YouTube debates are allowed to use that label, you see.

Next, award-winning liberal blogger Joshua Marshall cast Wurzelbacher as some kind of rabid freak for calling Social Security a "joke" -- as if no working-class Americans could believe that the federal government's entitlement programs were a rip-off unless they were bought and paid for by the McCain campaign.

Then, suddenly, the journalists who wouldn't lift a finger to investigate Obama's longtime relationships with Weather Underground terrorist Bill Ayers and Jeremiah Wright sprang into action rifling through citizen Joe Wurzelbacher's tax records. Politico.com reported breathlessly: "Samuel J. Wurzelbacher has a lien placed against him to the tune of $1,182.92. The lien is dated from January of '07." Press outlets probed his divorce records. The local plumbers union, which has endorsed Obama, claimed he didn't do their required apprenticeship work and didn't have a license to work outside his local township.

Hang him!

After Wurzelbacher told Katie Couric that Obama's rhetorical tap dance was "almost as good as Sammy Davis, Jr.," the inevitable cries of "bigotry" followed. (There are now tens of thousands of hits on the Internet for "Joe the Plumber racist.")

Welcome to Joe the Plumber Derangement Syndrome. If you can't beat him, smear him. It's the Obama way.


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Point is, wether it's in north america or in europe, we're all facing major ethnic conflicts in the decades to come with growing numbers of hispanic,arab,and black communities openly attempting to outnumber us while destroying our youths at school and in the streets using violence to make their point.

The whole thing being covered by either european or north american medias who have absolutely no idea what they are doing.



Occidentals countries are led by their MSM, and these people have absolutely no idea where they re going and where they re a leading the sheeps endoctrinated by TV.

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Re: The Left Declares War On Joe The Plumber
« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2008, 12:13:09 PM »
  :'(   :'(    :'(  i profit 250 thousand a year and now i have to give back 3 % of the profits i make off the american people to help support the government which makes my business and life possible  :'(   :'(   :'(

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Re: The Left Declares War On Joe The Plumber
« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2008, 12:15:21 PM »



Average Joe take notice. the left has no respect for you. Joe the plumber is just trying to take care of himself and his family. he ask's hussein a question that all of us would like to have asked, but a question that Hussein and the MSM don't want you to know. so for asking a valid question he gets his life torn upside down. if hussein O' biden becomes president the average joe can expect more of the same.

All Joe would have needed to do to keep out of the spotlight of MSM attention is to have bombed government institutions or kill cops and innocent civilians.

Shit, welcome to the New Order.

Anyone sticks their heads over parapet gets their balls re-arranged and their life destroyed by the MSM.

Trouble ahead boys and girls.

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Re: The Left Declares War On Joe The Plumber
« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2008, 12:17:17 PM »
1. McCain didnt even know the guys name and said it wrong
2. Joe was a republican to begin with
3. Joe is not even a plumber
4. Joe does not own a small business
5. Joe would not be faced with 'more taxes' under obamas plan until his non-existent business started making more than a quarter million a year

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« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2008, 12:18:56 PM »
lol "end of american greatness" hahah that ended about a decade ago sweetheart

oh man i make 250 thousand a year and now im gonna get taxed a small percentage so now instead of buying alll the shit i want i have to buy all the shit i want have a litle bit less left over than i would have had before that mild tax increase... even though i paid the same amount of tax back before the bush tax cuts, so really i already have paid this tax and actually i was doing better and doing more business before the bush tax cuts when i was already paying this tax... so wait maybe with the tax going back t normal business will go back to normal?? lolololz.... question.. would you rather pay no taxes on no profits or pay small taxes on large profits?? hahaha... fucking stupid delusiona theoretical economics from politicians who dont know jack about economics... hahah lololz

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« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2008, 12:28:24 PM »
lol "end of american greatness" hahah that ended about a decade ago sweetheart

oh man i make 250 thousand a year and now im gonna get taxed a small percentage so now instead of buying alll the shit i want i have to buy all the shit i want have a litle bit less left over than i would have had before that mild tax increase... even though i paid the same amount of tax back before the bush tax cuts, so really i already have paid this tax and actually i was doing better and doing more business before the bush tax cuts when i was already paying this tax... so wait maybe with the tax going back t normal business will go back to normal?? lolololz.... question.. would you rather pay no taxes on no profits or pay small taxes on large profits?? hahaha... fucking stupid delusiona theoretical economics from politicians who dont know jack about economics... hahah lololz
yes exactly they are greedy assholes pure and simple, everybody has to pay taxes in order to keep the nation and everything in it going, people who dont make much face a proprtionally much greater burden. it is hard to just get by. rich people can afford to pay a slightly higher proportion since they are reaping all the benefits of what the taxes afford them anyway, and their cushy lifestyle wont even be affected.

'oh no, sorry kids your only getting a bmw for your bday instead of a mercedes cause we got taxed a little more, boo fucking hoo' ::)

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Re: The Left Declares War On Joe The Plumber
« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2008, 01:04:41 PM »
1. McCain didnt even know the guys name and said it wrong
2. Joe was a republican to begin with
3. Joe is not even a plumber
4. Joe does not own a small business
5. Joe would not be faced with 'more taxes' under obamas plan until his non-existent business started making more than a quarter million a year

The guys question was "if he bought the plumbining buisiness he works for".He never said he made that much.Nver said he had a plumbers license.The left is in an uproar because Obama finally admitted what his plan is,"to spread the wealth".To take from those who achieve and give it to those that dont.

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Re: The Left Declares War On Joe The Plumber
« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2008, 06:32:23 PM »
the truth hurts

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Re: The Left Declares War On Joe The Plumber
« Reply #8 on: October 17, 2008, 07:21:03 PM »
The entire 5 minute conversation between Obama and "Joe the Plumber" is available on LiveLeak.com.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1a4_1224166209

Watch it... the level of ignorance in this thread is astounding. Most of you need to hear Obama explain his tax plan to "Joe"



The most important point: Joe would only pay 39% (instead of 36%) on the amount of profit OVER $250k!

If he earned 300k, he'd pay only $1500 extra... $19,500 (39% of 50k excess) instead of the $18,000 (36% of 50k excess) he's currently paying.

America is bankrupt... with the worst wealth disparity in the developed world... and this millionaire (he must be a millionaire if he's looking to buy a business with a net profit of 250-300k per annum, presumably valued at $5 million or so) can't spare an extra $30 a week? Even if Obama saves him tens of thousands in employee healthcare costs?


What a patriot.


Besides, as Obama explains in the video... Joe would probably be much better off with all the small business incentives built into the Obama tax plan.

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Re: The Left Declares War On Joe The Plumber
« Reply #9 on: October 17, 2008, 08:47:28 PM »

Flat tax is the answer. 


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Re: The Left Declares War On Joe The Plumber
« Reply #10 on: October 17, 2008, 09:02:50 PM »
  :'(   :'(    :'(  i profit 250 thousand a year and now i have to give back 3 % of the profits i make off the american people to help support the government which makes my business and life possible  :'(   :'(   :'(

Well if you profit 250 it wont go up... if you profit 300k you will only pay 3% on 50k... so 1500 total

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Re: The Left Declares War On Joe The Plumber
« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2008, 09:23:55 PM »
Max_Rep, whenever you're ready... ;)

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Re: The Left Declares War On Joe The Plumber
« Reply #12 on: October 18, 2008, 07:46:51 AM »
Along with proposing a change to the marginal tax rate over 250k Obama is also proposing a 50% tax credit for health insurance premiums.  Assuming Joe the Liar and Fraud actually managed to buy his company and he paid 20k in insurance premiums for himself and his unfortunate employees he would received a 10k tax credit.   In this scenario the tax credit would more than offset the increase in income taxes.

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Re: The Left Declares War On Joe The Plumber
« Reply #13 on: October 18, 2008, 08:00:55 AM »
The guys question was "if he bought the plumbining buisiness he works for".He never said he made that much.Nver said he had a plumbers license.The left is in an uproar because Obama finally admitted what his plan is,"to spread the wealth".To take from those who achieve and give it to those that dont.

I love how the repubs grab onto catch phrases like "spread the wealth" to try and scare people.  The reality is that everytime there is a tax cut someone else has to pick up the slack.  So, in effect, there is a redistribution of wealth.  Except under McCain's tax plan the tax cuts are for billion dollar corporations and the tax increases are on working families.  So McCain wants to redistribute working class money to oil companies.  Is that fair?

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Re: The Left Declares War On Joe The Plumber
« Reply #14 on: October 18, 2008, 08:17:44 AM »
The entire 5 minute conversation between Obama and "Joe the Plumber" is available on LiveLeak.com.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1a4_1224166209

Watch it... the level of ignorance in this thread is astounding. Most of you need to hear Obama explain his tax plan to "Joe"



The most important point: Joe would only pay 39% (instead of 36%) on the amount of profit OVER $250k!

If he earned 300k, he'd pay only $1500 extra... $19,500 (39% of 50k excess) instead of the $18,000 (36% of 50k excess) he's currently paying.

America is bankrupt... with the worst wealth disparity in the developed world... and this millionaire (he must be a millionaire if he's looking to buy a business with a net profit of 250-300k per annum, presumably valued at $5 million or so) can't spare an extra $30 a week? Even if Obama saves him tens of thousands in employee healthcare costs?


What a patriot.


Besides, as Obama explains in the video... Joe would probably be much better off with all the small business incentives built into the Obama tax plan.

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Re: The Left Declares War On Joe The Plumber
« Reply #15 on: October 18, 2008, 09:02:23 AM »
The Left Declares War On Joe The Plumber
By Michelle Malkin
October 17, 2008

Six-term Sen. Joe Biden's got some nerve going after citizen Joe the Plumber. But the entrenched politician from Delaware, who fancies himself the nation's No. 1 Ordinary Joe, had no choice. Obama-Biden simply can't tolerate an outspoken citizen successfully painting the Democratic ticket as socialist overlords. And so a dirty, desperate war against Joe Wurzelbacher is on.

The left's political plumbers are attacking the messenger, rummaging through his personal life and predictably wielding the race card once again. It's standard operating procedure for the Obama thug machine.

Wurzelbacher, in case you've been in hibernation, is the small-business man from Ohio who questioned Obama about his tax plan during a Toledo campaign swing last weekend. The revealing exchange was caught on tape and broadcast widely across the Internet and TV airwaves.

In response to Wurzelbacher's question about why he should be "taxed more and more for fulfilling the American dream," Obama sermonized that he needed to "spread the wealth around" because "it's good for everybody."

John McCain flung that chilling Marxist mantra back in Obama's face during Wednesday night's presidential debate and repeatedly cited Joe the Plumber's plight.

Obama squirmed. The dirt-diggers started Googling. And the next morning, six-term Sen. Biden launched the first salvo against the Ohio entrepreneur on NBC's "Today Show," challenging the veracity of his story: "I don't have any Joe the Plumbers in my neighborhood that make $250,000 a year."

Under an Obama-Biden administration, they'll make sure no Joe the Plumbers ever earn such a salary. "It's good for everybody," don't you know?

Biden, as is so often the case, twisted the facts about Wurzelbacher. No surprise there. Slick Joe Biden is the one who tells fables about visiting a diner in Delaware that hasn't been open in years; spins yarns about getting "forced down" in a helicopter over Afghanistan because of perilous conditions that turned out to be weather related, not al-Qaida related; and continues to slander the family of the man involved in his wife and daughter's fatal car accident (crash investigators cleared the now-deceased driver of drunk driving, despite Biden's insinuations). But I digress.

Wurzelbacher never claimed to be making $250,000 a year. He told Obama that he might be "getting ready to buy a company that makes about $250,000, $270,000" a year. His simple point was that Obama's punitive tax proposals would make it more difficult to realize his dream.

Obama's followers couldn't handle the incontrovertible truth. Left-wing blogs immediately went to work, blaring headlines like "Not A Real $250k Plumber!" Next, they falsely accused Wurzelbacher of not being registered to vote -- he's registered in Lucas County, Ohio, and voted as a Republican in this year's primary.

Next, they called him a liar for identifying himself as undecided. Only registered Democrats and fake Republican tools used in mainstream media stories and YouTube debates are allowed to use that label, you see.

Next, award-winning liberal blogger Joshua Marshall cast Wurzelbacher as some kind of rabid freak for calling Social Security a "joke" -- as if no working-class Americans could believe that the federal government's entitlement programs were a rip-off unless they were bought and paid for by the McCain campaign.

Then, suddenly, the journalists who wouldn't lift a finger to investigate Obama's longtime relationships with Weather Underground terrorist Bill Ayers and Jeremiah Wright sprang into action rifling through citizen Joe Wurzelbacher's tax records. Politico.com reported breathlessly: "Samuel J. Wurzelbacher has a lien placed against him to the tune of $1,182.92. The lien is dated from January of '07." Press outlets probed his divorce records. The local plumbers union, which has endorsed Obama, claimed he didn't do their required apprenticeship work and didn't have a license to work outside his local township.

Hang him!

After Wurzelbacher told Katie Couric that Obama's rhetorical tap dance was "almost as good as Sammy Davis, Jr.," the inevitable cries of "bigotry" followed. (There are now tens of thousands of hits on the Internet for "Joe the Plumber racist.")

Welcome to Joe the Plumber Derangement Syndrome. If you can't beat him, smear him. It's the Obama way.


http://www.gopusa.com/commentary/mmalkin/2008/mm_10171.shtml
















Point is, wether it's in north america or in europe, we're all facing major ethnic conflicts in the decades to come with growing numbers of hispanic,arab,and black communities openly attempting to outnumber us while destroying our youths at school and in the streets using violence to make their point.

The whole thing being covered by either european or north american medias who have absolutely no idea what they are doing.



Occidentals countries are led by their MSM, and these people have absolutely no idea where they re going and where they re a leading the sheeps endoctrinated by TV.


McCain tried to earn a ride to the White House on "Samuel's" back hollaring Joe the Plumber this and that.....

The fact is that the Obama campaign didn't even go after him.  However when McCain kept saying stuff about Joe this and that, it was only a matter of time before the media would check him out to make sure he wasn't full of shit and he's been exposed as a fraud.

He's not making 250k a year
He's not even a plumber
His name isn't Joe
He's a registered Republican like me
He actually owes back taxes


Sorry but McCain should not have used him for his campaign and should have checked him out first like Palin. 

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