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Re: Pic. Obama draws OVER 100,000 in Missouri!!!
« Reply #25 on: October 19, 2008, 10:52:06 AM »
He got 80,000 in Oregon and 200,000 in Berlin... People are motivated by him.

Publicists in Germany don't accept payments in Dollars? You missed the point....so surprising.... ::)

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Re: Pic. Obama draws OVER 100,000 in Missouri!!!
« Reply #26 on: October 19, 2008, 11:54:36 AM »
The 200,000 dipshits in Germany don't get to vote and they must have emptied out all of East St. Louis to fill that crowd. I wonder if they will keep the polls open there until Obama wins, like they tried to do for Gore in 2000.
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Re: Pic. Obama draws OVER 100,000 in Missouri!!!
« Reply #27 on: October 19, 2008, 11:58:18 AM »
The 200,000 dipshits in Germany don't get to vote and they must have emptied out all of East St. Louis to fill that crowd. I wonder if they will keep the polls open there until Obama wins, like they tried to do for Gore in 2000.


There are tons of Americans in Germany who are registered voters and who vote absentee.

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Re: Pic. Obama draws OVER 100,000 in Missouri!!!
« Reply #28 on: October 19, 2008, 12:00:15 PM »
Yep alot are retired Military...we know how that will go don't we.
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Re: Pic. Obama draws OVER 100,000 in Missouri!!!
« Reply #29 on: October 19, 2008, 12:03:09 PM »
Yep alot are retired Military...we know how that will go don't we.
Yep. To Obama.

Troops Abroad Donate 6:1 to Obama Over McCain

By Luke Rosiak , Open Secrets. Posted August 20, 2008.



During World War II, soldiers crouching in foxholes penned letters assuring their sweethearts that they'd be home soon. Now, between firefights in the Iraqi desert, some infantrymen have been sending a different kind of mail stateside: two or three hundred dollars -- or whatever they can spare -- towards a presidential election that could very well determine just how soon they come home.

According to an analysis of campaign contributions by the nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics, Democrat Barack Obama has received nearly six times as much money from troops deployed overseas at the time of their contributions than has Republican John McCain, and the fiercely anti-war Ron Paul, though he suspended his campaign for the Republican nomination months ago, has received more than four times McCain's haul.

Despite McCain's status as a decorated veteran and a historically Republican bent among the military, members of the armed services overall -- whether stationed overseas or at home -- are also favoring Obama with their campaign contributions in 2008, by a $55,000 margin. Although 59 percent of federal contributions by military personnel has gone to Republicans this cycle, of money from the military to the presumed presidential nominees, 57 percent has gone to Obama.

With the latest campaign finance filings, detailing June fundraising, McCain has overtaken Paul among all military donors, though Paul still leads with contributors listing an overseas address. Financial support from military personnel for anti-war candidates Obama and Paul is a trend that the Center for Responsive Politics first observed last September.

Individuals in the Air Force, Army, Navy and Marine Corps have all leaned Republican this cycle, but the only branch in which that ideology has carried over to the presidential race is the Marine Corps, where McCain leads Obama by about $4,000. In each of the other branches -- including the Navy, in which McCain served when he was taken prisoner during the Vietnam War -- Obama leads by significant margins.

"That's shocking. The academic debate is between some who say that junior enlisted ranks lean slightly Republican and some who say it's about equal, but no one would point to six-to-one" in Democrats' favor, said Aaron Belkin, a professor of political science at the University of California who studies the military. "That represents a tremendous shift from 2000, when the military vote almost certainly was decisive in Florida and elsewhere, and leaned heavily towards the Republicans."

In 2000, Republican George W. Bush outraised Democrat Al Gore among military personnel almost 2 to 1. In 2004, with the Iraq war underway, John Kerry closed the gap with President Bush, but Bush still raised $1.50 from the military for every $1 his Democratic opponent collected.

A former West Point professor, Jason Dempsey, noted that the small set of contributions from deployed troops at this point in 2008 -- just 323 donations -- should not be extrapolated to form conclusions about military personnel overall. "If, on a bad day, a guy gets that letter that says [his tour has been extended] from 12 to 15 months, that could spur a quick donation and expression of anger," he said. "Donating helps members of the military express their political views privately."

Seeing political activity of any sort among soldiers is notable, Dempsey added. "It's hard to describe how apolitical a lot of the enlisted ranks are. He's worried about other things than following the news."

Obama, who opposed the war in Iraq but was not in the Senate when it was authorized, has said that as president, he would withdraw most troops from Iraq within about 16 months. McCain, the ranking Republican on the Senate Armed Services Committee and a staunch proponent of the Iraq war, has resisted setting a timeline for withdrawal.

CRP's totals based on employer are limited to donors contributing more than $200, since information is not provided to the Federal Election Commission for smaller contributions. So these figures are likely to disproportionately represent the mood of officers, who have more disposable income to spend on politics than do the lower ranks. But because young people tend to be more liberal than their elders, the total dollar figures could lean even more in Obama's favor."

One possibly mundane explanation (for the tilt in contributions from deployed soldiers) is that the Obama campaign has just been so much savvier with web-based donors. It may be a logistical question," Belkin pointed out.

Army Specialist Jay Navas contributed $250 while deployed in Iraq, but it wasn't over the Internet. "It took some effort to get that check. I had my mom send me my checkbook and I walked to the post office in Camp Liberty in Baghdad with an envelope addressed to Barack Obama in Chicago, Illinois," he said. "He was right on Iraq long when others were jumping into the sea like lemmings, and that's hard to do. We're soldiers and we respect courage."

Only the Coast Guard prefers Democrats across the board, with 78 percent of employees' total federal contributions going to members of that party, and Obama beating McCain $7,795 to $250. Navas anecdotally confirmed that soldiers are often conservative but that many are making an exception in the presidential race. "Most of my friends are conservative Republicans and they say, 'I'm voting for Barack.' McCain does not have a lock on the military vote, that's for sure," he said. "We'll complete our duty -- I'm deploying next year -- because it's a commitment I made to the nation, not to a president. But we all know that Iraq was a big mistake."

The decisions of the U.S. government affect Navas more than most Americans, he said."What happens politically in America affects us immediately," he said. "As soon as the surge was ordered, my tour was extended, just by a pronouncement from the president. For very few Americans can the president say something and your lives are changed."

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Re: Pic. Obama draws OVER 100,000 in Missouri!!!
« Reply #30 on: October 19, 2008, 12:04:14 PM »
Yep alot are retired Military...we know how that will go don't we.


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Re: Pic. Obama draws OVER 100,000 in Missouri!!!
« Reply #31 on: October 19, 2008, 12:09:28 PM »
Yep alot are retired Military...we know how that will go don't we.
Yep.


The Caucus | A New York Times
October 17, 2008, 5:33 pm

By Leslie Wayne



Senator John McCain has pulled slightly ahead of Senator Barack Obama in campaign contributions from military donors. But what set Mr. McCain over the top were donations that came from people working for the Department of Defense.
When it comes to the uniformed military, Mr. Obama is still ahead.

The Center for Responsive Politics, which analyzes campaign finance data, reports that a surge of donations for Mr. McCain in the final months he was able to accept campaign contributions moved him into the lead. By the end of August, Mr. McCain received $461,350 from military donors to $450,950 for Mr. Obama.

One of the interesting trends of the election was that anti-war candidates, not only Mr. Obama but also Ron Paul, were getting more support from the uniformed military than hawkish Mr. McCain. That remains the case. Mr. Obama received $340,400 from members of the uniformed service branches compared to $321,500 for Mr. McCain. Mr. Paul had taken in $213,000 from uniformed service members.

The report also shows that Mr. Obama also is ahead of Mr. McCain in military donors with overseas addresses, both those working for the Department of Defense as well as members of the uniformed services. A total of $74,650 came in for Mr. Obama from those posted overseas to $16,600 for Mr. McCain.

Mr. McCain, who served in the military for many years and was a Vietnam P.O.W., is wellknown for his tussles in Congress with the Pentagon over cost overruns on weapon systems. But the Department of Defense is among his top twenty donors. And, as a Navy man, Mr. McCain got support from donors in the Army, which also made Mr. McCain’s top twenty list of donors.

No group of military donors appeared among Mr. Obama’s top twenty. But that was because the amounts that Mr. Obama raised are so large that the military donations, as a group, were not large enough to make his list.

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Re: Pic. Obama draws OVER 100,000 in Missouri!!!
« Reply #32 on: October 19, 2008, 12:17:35 PM »
Do we really need to go ovier this again dipshit........
Thats from the various military newspapers ( army,navy, Times etc) run by an independent News Service that also published USA Today. U lost dude...we don't like Obama ...sorry.

McCain Obama



Overall 68 23



Army 68 23



Navy 69 24



Air Force 67 24



Marines 75 18



Retirees 72 20



White Non-Hispanic 76 17



Hispanic 63 27



Black/African-American 12 79



Enlisted 67 24



Officers 70 22


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Re: Pic. Obama draws OVER 100,000 in Missouri!!!
« Reply #33 on: October 19, 2008, 12:19:04 PM »
Do we really need to go ovier this again dipshit........
Thats from the various military newspapers ( army,navy, Times etc) run by an independent News Service that also published USA Today. U lost dude...we don't like Obama ...sorry.

McCain Obama



Overall 68 23



Army 68 23



Navy 69 24



Air Force 67 24



Marines 75 18



Retirees 72 20



White Non-Hispanic 76 17



Hispanic 63 27



Black/African-American 12 79



Enlisted 67 24



Officers 70 22



I don`t see a credible source.

In my article its right there.  Where is yours?  Making up lies again I see.

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Re: Pic. Obama draws OVER 100,000 in Missouri!!!
« Reply #34 on: October 19, 2008, 12:24:41 PM »
Sure mine is from a Military times poll....the same guys who run USA Today.......ur to going to loose this so end it now. U have no idea about what the Services think or feel on Obama, u don't serve.
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Re: Pic. Obama draws OVER 100,000 in Missouri!!!
« Reply #35 on: October 19, 2008, 01:24:19 PM »
Sure mine is from a Military times poll....the same guys who run USA Today.......ur to going to loose this so end it now. U have no idea about what the Services think or feel on Obama, u don't serve.


Link?

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Re: Pic. Obama draws OVER 100,000 in Missouri!!!
« Reply #36 on: October 19, 2008, 01:29:53 PM »
Hey dipshit...find ur own link. U are a Lib on every level. U want people to do eveything for u. The link is in another thread.
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Re: Pic. Obama draws OVER 100,000 in Missouri!!!
« Reply #37 on: October 19, 2008, 01:33:47 PM »
Hey dipshit...find ur own link. U are a Lib on every level. U want people to do eveything for u. The link is in another thread.

I'm not going to do your own homework.

YOU make a claim...YOU provide the source.


Otherwise we can just call B.S. on what you claim....As is usually done with you.

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Re: Pic. Obama draws OVER 100,000 in Missouri!!!
« Reply #38 on: October 19, 2008, 01:36:43 PM »
Again....u look it up...the link is in another thread. Or don't look it up...u really don't matter to me anyway.
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Re: Pic. Obama draws OVER 100,000 in Missouri!!!
« Reply #39 on: October 19, 2008, 03:06:48 PM »
Again....u look it up...the link is in another thread. Or don't look it up...u really don't matter to me anyway.

You are quite the arrogant annoying prick. True observation.
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Re: Pic. Obama draws OVER 100,000 in Missouri!!!
« Reply #40 on: October 19, 2008, 03:29:55 PM »
Sure mine is from a Military times poll....the same guys who run USA Today.......ur to going to loose this so end it now. U have no idea about what the Services think or feel on Obama, u don't serve.

I'm a vet. I'm voting for Obama.

Suck on that, bitch!
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Re: Pic. Obama draws OVER 100,000 in Missouri!!!
« Reply #41 on: October 19, 2008, 03:44:31 PM »
You are quite the arrogant annoying prick. True observation.

so true.  always will be.  That's how conservatives are.  They are so blind in life.  They pick a path to follow and no matter how many bombs, dead people, shit, piss are on that path they will stay on it refusing to acknowledge there may be a better route elsewhere even when it is proven.



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Re: Pic. Obama draws OVER 100,000 in Missouri!!!
« Reply #42 on: October 19, 2008, 04:05:10 PM »
I can't decide if your feeling superior to him is funny, sad or just plain pathetic: That man's accomplished more than you or anyone you know ever will. If you have kids... their kids probably won't accomplish as much as he has. You will never, ever, ever, ever....... ever ever ever ever ever.. ever even close to him and that must really suck balls for you. You cold cure cancer, AIDS, win the Noble Prize for curing stupid and history won't remember you as long as him.

"The times they are a changin'", Danielson. Being a member of the majority ain't what it used to be, man. If he loses the election, you can at least pretend this was a nightmare or really bad joke. If he wins, people who don't have a thing to be proud of in life aside from being white will feel their social standing has slipped a bit. It's not really even about race or racism, more that America had a pretty well established pecking order and things are changing.

He owns you longer than forever and there's no way to recover.  :)

I bet he can't pick up coked out strippers as well as you. That's got to be worth something. :)


Did Hussein let you swing off hits nuts before or after you posted this?  ;D

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Re: Pic. Obama draws OVER 100,000 in Missouri!!!
« Reply #43 on: October 19, 2008, 04:11:11 PM »

Did Hussein let you swing off hits nuts before or after you posted this?  ;D

I'm undecided and he owns my black ass too, LOL!

There's one difference, though. Not being in the majority I don't feel automatically superior to anyone else.

If a black dude starts winning NASCAR races the whole world may come to an end, LOL!

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Re: Pic. Obama draws OVER 100,000 in Missouri!!!
« Reply #44 on: October 19, 2008, 04:17:55 PM »
I'm undecided and he owns my black ass too, LOL!

There's one difference, though. Not being in the majority I don't feel automatically superior to anyone else.

If a black dude starts winning NASCAR races the whole world may come to an end, LOL!

Actually there are many minorities that are considered better (if you can call it that) than the white majority, such as Asians.

But I really think that Obama achievements are diminished by much when you see who helped him to get into most places and what he did there, he is one of those directly responsible for the crisis today and his entire career is laced with ....well....political and personal BS.

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Re: Pic. Obama draws OVER 100,000 in Missouri!!!
« Reply #45 on: October 19, 2008, 04:24:24 PM »
Actually there are many minorities that are considered better (if you can call it that) than the white majority, such as Asians.

But I really think that Obama achievements are diminished by much when you see who helped him to get into most places and what he did there, he is one of those directly responsible for the crisis today and his entire career is laced with ....well....political and personal BS.


Everyone has help. Do you think Bush would have been president without serious money and help? Gore alive without a personal guard in Viet Nam? Bill Clinton without dodging the draft? Peanot Butter without Jelly?

I don't trust any politician. For me, this is about deciding who sucks less. Neither can end the war but I really wouldn't want us to invade Iran too.

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Re: Pic. Obama draws OVER 100,000 in Missouri!!!
« Reply #46 on: October 19, 2008, 04:47:34 PM »

I don't trust any politician. For me, this is about deciding who sucks less. Neither can end the war but I really wouldn't want us to invade Iran too.

Same here.  Since Missouri is a Red State my objective is to keep McCain out.  Barrack don't mean shit to me either.  I was a Ron Paul guy but McCain/Palin Maverick Team is not the administration I want to handle foreign affairs and economy issues. 
 
I am not exaggerating when I say I only know 2 people that are for McCain. So I have no idea how he has a chance.
One is a drug task force cop who thinks Obama will cut out funding and the other is a dude I work with who is McCain for moral\religious beliefs such as anti-abortion.   ::).  I asked him what the hell does he think Obama will do?  Run around in the streets with a coat hanger? ...lol.    No mention of getting the troops home or the economic impact we face.  ???  Nothing of real substance.  My friends yeah but idiots for sure.


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Re: Pic. Obama draws OVER 100,000 in Missouri!!!
« Reply #47 on: October 19, 2008, 04:55:05 PM »
Same here.  Since Missouri is a Red State my objective is to keep McCain out.  Barrack don't mean shit to me either.  I was a Ron Paul guy but McCain/Palin Maverick Team is not the administration I want to handle foreign affairs and economy issues. 
 
I am not exaggerating when I say I only know 2 people that are for McCain. So I have no idea how he has a chance.
One is a drug task force cop who thinks Obama will cut out funding and the other is a dude I work with who is McCain for moral\religious beliefs such as anti-abortion.   ::).  I asked him what the hell does he think Obama will do?  Run around in the streets with a coat hanger? ...lol.    No mention of getting the troops home or the economic impact we face.  ???  Nothing of real substance.  My friends yeah but idiots for sure.




Ok mr.genius we're sorry we all can't be sheep that follow an inexperienced dirty politician.

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Re: Pic. Obama draws OVER 100,000 in Missouri!!!
« Reply #48 on: October 19, 2008, 06:44:46 PM »

Ok mr.genius we're sorry we all can't be sheep that follow an inexperienced dirty politician.

That's precisely why he supports Obama... 'cause not everyone is a sheep following an inexperienced dirty politician.
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Re: Pic. Obama draws OVER 100,000 in Missouri!!!
« Reply #49 on: October 19, 2008, 07:08:04 PM »
That's precisely why he supports Obama... 'cause not everyone is a sheep following an inexperienced dirty politician.

That dude is beyond help so it's no use.  He probably was the dumb fuck kid in kindergarten trying to shove a circle block into the square hole and could never figure it out so he threw a tantrum and shit his pants.  When Obama gets in then he can get the fuck out of the US if he doesn't like it.   ;D

Like I said I am voting Obama only because I distrust McCain's judgment...and Palin...get real.  ::)