Delt and trap receptors

[Figo]

What truth is there that due to receptor abundance in the trap & delt areas, those bodyparts respond well when on aas?

[DIVISION]

What truth is there that due to receptor abundance in the trap & delt areas, those bodyparts respond well when on aas?

Not that I know of.

All receptors are getting the same stimulation, regardless of the injection site or "abundance".



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[tbombz]

What truth is there that due to receptor abundance in the trap & delt areas, those bodyparts respond well when on aas?

Never heard of that, but if the density of androgen receptors in those tissues is indeed greater than in others, than that would most definitely make them respond better and grow faster than other tissues.

[Emmortal]

Never heard of that, but if the density of androgen receptors in those tissues is indeed greater than in others, than that would most definitely make them respond better and grow faster than other tissues.

I've heard people talk about this before but haven't seen any clear evidence of such.  I think delts and traps grow easier for a lot of guys because the delts especially get worked in a lot of movements, i.e. arms, back, chest etc.

[tbombz]

poliquin has said the traps are the easiest muscle to make big. for what reason i know not. androgen receptor density? maybe. its true that the delts are definitely a muscle that respnd very well to gear. hardly ever see a natural with full round delts. wide shoulders-sure. round muscle bellys? nope. really only see steroid users with delts like that.

[Emmortal]

poliquin has said the traps are the easiest muscle to make big. for what reason i know not. androgen receptor density? maybe. its true that the delts are definitely a muscle that respnd very well to gear. hardly ever see a natural with full round delts. wide shoulders-sure. round muscle bellys? nope. really only see steroid users with delts like that.

I'd disagree about naturals, and round muscle bellies has a lot to do with genetics and muscle insertion.  Take for instance guys with high inserting biceps appear to have rounder muscle bellies and a better peak compared to those with lower inserting biceps.

My traps are one of the easiest muscles for me to build, I rarely train them directly and when I do they get too large and make me look like an oger.

[tbombz]

Sorry, maybe I used the wrong terminology, I just meant big full delts.

You believe Skip la cour is a natural ?

[Emmortal]

Sorry, maybe I used the wrong terminology, I just meant big full delts.

You believe Skip la cour is a natural ?

Nah, I don't think he is, but was just using him as an example since I couldn't' find any other suitable "naturals" to fit my argument

[dustin]

poliquin has said the traps are the easiest muscle to make big. for what reason i know not. androgen receptor density? maybe. its true that the delts are definitely a muscle that respnd very well to gear. hardly ever see a natural with full round delts. wide shoulders-sure. round muscle bellys? nope. really only see steroid users with delts like that.

After my first cycle of Superdrol my traps exploded. I haven't done direct work in two year at least and they're huge, even off cycle. Everyone comments about my roid traps. My shoulders also pop like crap while on. They're still capped when off, but just a half gram of androgens makes your muscle bellies really perk up and hold much more glycogen.

**Edit**

Here are a few pics for the sake of comparison. The second set of pictures are two weeks after taking Superdrol, 10mgs for the first week and 20mgs for the second. I'm only about 5-10lbs heavier but it changed my physique almost overnight.





And yes, I know that I'm an idiot. I didn't run solo oral cycles after that, I lost the fat that I put on from that cycle (I got deathly ill with food poisoning just before PCT), so whatever... these are from almost exactly two years ago. It wasn't too long ago that I weighed just over 100lbs.

[tbombz]

 why did you post a picture/link to the shroomery ?  good site, i like it aot too, but it doest really fit the topic at hand.        

[Figo]

poliquin has said the traps are the easiest muscle to make big. for what reason i know not. androgen receptor density? maybe. its true that the delts are definitely a muscle that respnd very well to gear. hardly ever see a natural with full round delts. wide shoulders-sure. round muscle bellys? nope. really only see steroid users with delts like that.

Thanks for replies, guys.

Non-naturals do seem to have much better ""capped"", delts than natties do.

[dustin]

why did you post a picture/link to the shroomery ?  good site, i like it aot too, but it doest really fit the topic at hand.        

LMFAO I registered there like 5 years ago... the people on that site were a HUGE part of my life during some rough times. After I tripped balls on the last day of high school I never felt the need to shroom again. That day my life made a complete 180. I think everyone should try psychedelics at least once, even if they have a horrible trip and stick their penis in a light socket. 

I occasionally post in the Mental And Physical Health section... there are a lot of boneheads that think doing clap pushups and eating a bag of chips when their stoned is going to grow their swole 110lb frames.

[tbombz]

yeah, shrooms are pretty cool. to me one shroom trip is more beneficial than 6 months of seeing a psychologist once a week. (and ive tried both, lol). people who read this without tryinjg shrooms would probably see this as romancing the drug, making it mroe than it is, rationalizing, addictive behavior.. but they will never understand untill they eat some psylocybin.  i remember overload saying one his buddies is a highly recognized modern philosopher who wrote some renouned books (or essays,. i forget) , and he told overload everytime he wrote he was tripping on shrooms.  im sure overload could speak on this if he reads this.

[dustin]

The vast expanse of our MINDS is limitless. I've learned many a lessons from The Shroomery. I haven't explored my consciousness in a long time though. I've broken through on salvia and have had life changing experiences. It's sort of strange... someone tripping on salvia looks like they're in a drooling stupor, but it led me to make drastic decisions in my young life and I haven't looked back.

When I trip nowadays, it's usually through marijuana. Oral ingestion is a lot different than smoking. I had some prepared cannabis extracts that lasted me well over a year. Tripped God damn balls each time. I like being in nature with good music and father Time to keep me company. It's good to kick back every now and again and trip. I meditate when I'm sober as well, but I'm no guru that's for sure. After tripping, meditation becomes a LOT more engaging but I always seem to lose my skill. I need to set some time aside to meditate again. I always make the best gains in the gym when I keep my mind in tip top condition.

[QuakerOats]

has nothing to do with "more receptors", most guys and especially juicers way overtrain chest, delts and traps at the expense of everyhting else so of course those are going to grow bigger.

[Rimbaud]

has nothing to do with "more receptors", most guys and especially juicers way overtrain chest, delts and traps at the expense of everyhting else so of course those are going to grow bigger.
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I see it every day the same guys only hitting the "beach" muscles.

[Overload]

I have always had big traps and delts.

They just stick out more than anything else and are more noticeable when they swell up from a good dose of AAS.

My chest, glutes and arms responded the best to AAS.

Shrooms are a must for anyone. I have cattle and believe me i have eaten my share over the years.

[QuakerOats]

I see it every day the same guys only hitting the "beach" muscles.

not to mention that a lot of guys site inject the delts as well and i believe the old theory that the first muscle that has access to the drug will grow the most.

[Rimbaud]

not to mention that a lot of guys site inject the delts as well and i believe the old theory that the first muscle that has access to the drug will grow the most.

I think that theory is bullshit...I used to do a ton of Quad injections so "in theory" I should have huge legs. When in fact they're pretty average.

On a side note I could never inject my delts. Tried a couple times & didn't feel like I had enough "control" of the needle.

[QuakerOats]

I think that theory is bullshit...I used to do a ton of Quad injections so "in theory" I should have huge legs. When in fact they're pretty average.

On a side note I could never inject my delts. Tried a couple times & didn't feel like I had enough "control" of the needle.

i had a training partner who would pin his delts with a 19 gauge 1 1/2 inch long pin, dude's shoulders were so thick he needed a pin that long for them, crazy bastard.

[QuakerOats]

I think that theory is bullshit...I used to do a ton of Quad injections so "in theory" I should have huge legs. When in fact they're pretty average.

On a side note I could never inject my delts. Tried a couple times & didn't feel like I had enough "control" of the needle.

BTW did you train the muscle you pinned the same day you hit it? helps to get some blood moving around in there.

[tbombz]

not to mention that a lot of guys site inject the delts as well and i believe the old theory that the first muscle that has access to the drug will grow the most.

yeah. to a small degree that is true, als you get a smal degree of synthol like growth from the oil. its relatively insignificant, but over time it should, in theory, make a small difference.

[Rimbaud]

BTW did you train the muscle you pinned the same day you hit it? helps to get some blood moving around in there.

When I could I tried too.

[Rimbaud]

i had a training partner who would pin his delts with a 19 gauge 1 1/2 inch long pin, dude's shoulders were so thick he needed a pin that long for them, crazy bastard.

Let's insane...talk about using a fucking dart.

[QuakerOats]

Let's insane...talk about using a fucking dart.

i never had the balls for that shit.