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AP INVESTIGATION: Alaska funded Palin kids' travel
« on: October 21, 2008, 04:03:53 PM »
AP INVESTIGATION: Alaska funded Palin kids' travel

ANCHORAGE, Alaska (AP) -- Gov. Sarah Palin charged the state for her children to travel with her, including to events where they were not invited, and later amended expense reports to specify that they were on official business.

The charges included costs for hotel and commercial flights for three daughters to join Palin to watch their father in a snowmobile race, and a trip to New York, where the governor attended a five-hour conference and stayed with 17-year-old Bristol for five days and four nights in a luxury hotel.

In all, Palin has charged the state $21,012 for her three daughters' 64 one-way and 12 round-trip commercial flights since she took office in December 2006. In some other cases, she has charged the state for hotel rooms for the girls.

Alaska law does not specifically address expenses for a governor's children. The law allows for payment of expenses for anyone conducting official state business.

As governor, Palin justified having the state pay for the travel of her daughters - Bristol, 17; Willow, 14; and Piper, 7 - by noting on travel forms that the girls had been invited to attend or participate in events on the governor's schedule.

But some organizers of these events said they were surprised when the Palin children showed up uninvited, or said they agreed to a request by the governor to allow the children to attend.

Several other organizers said the children merely accompanied their mother and did not participate. The trips enabled Palin, whose main state office is in the capital of Juneau, to spend more time with her children.

"She said any event she can take her kids to is an event she tries to attend," said Jennifer McCarthy, who helped organize the June 2007 Family Day Celebration picnic in Ketchikan that Piper attended with her parents.

State Finance Director Kim Garnero told The Associated Press she has not reviewed the Palins' travel expense forms, so she could not say whether the daughters' travel with their mother would meet the definition of official business.

After Republican presidential nominee Sen. John McCain chose Palin his running mate and reporters asked for the records, Palin ordered changes to previously filed expense reports for her daughters' travel.

In the amended reports, Palin added phrases such as "First Family attending" and "First Family invited" to explain the girls' attendance.

"The governor said, 'I want the purpose and the reason for this travel to be clear,'" said Linda Perez, state director of administrative services.

When Palin released her family's tax records as part of her vice presidential campaign, some tax experts questioned why she did not report the children's state travel reimbursements as income.

The Palins released a review by a Washington attorney who said state law allows the children's travel expenses to be reimbursed and not taxed when they conduct official state business.

Taylor Griffin, a McCain-Palin campaign spokesman, said Palin followed state policy allowing governors to charge for their children's travel. He said the governor's office has invitations requesting the family to attend some events, but he said he did not have them to provide.

In October 2007, Palin brought daughter Bristol along on a trip to New York for a women's leadership conference. Plane tickets from Anchorage to La Guardia Airport for $1,385.11 were billed to the state, records show, and mother and daughter shared a room for four nights at the $707.29-per-night Essex House hotel, which overlooks Central Park.

The event's organizers said Palin asked if she could bring her daughter.

Alexis Gelber, who organized Newsweek's Third Annual Women & Leadership Conference, said she does not know how Bristol ended up attending. Gelber said invitees usually attend alone, but some ask if they can bring a relative or friend.

Griffin, the campaign spokesman, said he believes someone with the event personally sent an e-mail to Bristol inviting her, but he did not have it to provide. Records show Palin also met with Mayor Michael Bloomberg and Goldman Sachs representatives and visited the New York Stock Exchange.

In January, the governor, Willow and Piper showed up at the Alaska Symphony of Seafood Buffet, an Anchorage gala to announce winners of an earlier seafood competition.

"She was just there," said James Browning, executive director of Alaska Fisheries Development Foundation, which runs the event. Griffin said the governor's office received an invitation that was not specifically addressed to anyone.

When Palin amended her children's expense reports, she listed a role for the two girls at the function - "to draw two separate raffle tickets."

In the original travel form, Palin listed a number of events that her children attended and said they were there "in official capacity helping." She did not identify any specific roles for the girls.

In July, the governor charged the state $2,741.26 to take Bristol and Piper to Philadelphia for a meeting of the National Governors Association. The girls had their own room for five nights at the Ritz-Carlton Hotel for $215.46 a night, expense records show.

Expense forms describe the girls' official purpose as "NGA Governor's Youth Programs and family activities." But those programs were activities designed to keep children busy, a service provided by the NGA

to accommodate governors and their families, NGA spokeswoman Jodi Omear said.

In addition to the commercial flights, the children have traveled dozens of times with Palin on a state plane. For these flights, the total cost of operating the plane, at $971 an hour, was about $55,000, according to state flight logs. The cost of operating the state plane does not increase when the children join their mother.

The organizer of an American Heart Association luncheon on Feb. 15 in Fairbanks said Palin asked to bring daughter Piper to the event, and the organizer said she was surprised when Palin showed up with daughter Willow and Bristol as well.

The three Palin daughters shared a room separate from their mother at the Princess Lodge in Fairbanks for two nights, at a cost to the state of $129 per night.

The luncheon took place before Palin's husband, Todd, finished fourth in the 2,000-mile Iron Dog snowmobile race, also in Fairbanks. The family greeted him at the finish line.

When Palin showed up at the luncheon with not just Piper but also Willow and Bristol, organizers had to scramble to make room at the main table, said Janet Bartels, who set up the event.

"When it's the governor, you just make it happen," she said.

The state is already reviewing nearly $17,000 in per diem payments to Palin for more than 300 nights she slept at her own home, 40 miles from her satellite office in Anchorage.

Tony Knowles, a Democratic former governor of Alaska who lost to Palin in a 2006 bid to reclaim the job, said he never charged the state for his three children's commercial flights or claimed their travel as official state business.

Knowles, who was governor from 1994 to 2002, is the only other recent Alaska governor who had school-age children while in office.

"There was no valid reason for the children to be along on state business," said Knowles, a supporter of Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama. "I cannot recall any instance during my eight years as governor where it would have been appropriate to claim they performed state business."

Knowles said he brought his children to one NGA event while in office but didn't charge the state for their trip.

In February 2007, the three girls flew from Juneau to Anchorage on Alaska Airlines. Palin charged the state for the $519.30 round-trip ticket for each girl, and noted on the expense form that the daughters accompanied her to "open the start of the Iron Dog race."

The children and their mother then watched as Todd Palin and other racers started the competition, which Todd won that year. Palin later had the relevant expense forms changed to describe the girls' business as "First Family official starter for the start of the Iron Dog race."

The Palins began charging the state for commercial flights after the governor kept a 2006 campaign promise to sell a jet bought by her predecessor.

Palin put the jet up for sale on eBay, a move she later trumpeted in her star-making speech at the Republican National Convention, and it was ultimately sold by the state at a loss.

That left only one high-performance aircraft deemed safe enough for her to use - a 1980 twin-engine King Air assigned to the public safety agency but, according to flight logs, out of service for maintenance and repairs about a third of the time Palin has been governor.

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Re: AP INVESTIGATION: Alaska funded Palin kids' travel
« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2008, 04:37:03 PM »
Cue a neocon to come and try divert the subject to Obama instead.
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Re: AP INVESTIGATION: Alaska funded Palin kids' travel
« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2008, 05:13:16 PM »
So what, it probably cost a couple of hundred dollars, no big deal.

When you think about all the hard work Palin did as governor and as VP candidate, money like this doesn't matter.
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Re: AP INVESTIGATION: Alaska funded Palin kids' travel
« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2008, 05:21:48 PM »
So what, it probably cost a couple of hundred dollars, no big deal.

When you think about all the hard work Palin did as governor and as VP candidate, money like this doesn't matter.

Are you kidding?

Just what we need in a VP, another unethical douche like Cheney...
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Re: AP INVESTIGATION: Alaska funded Palin kids' travel
« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2008, 05:22:30 PM »
So what, it probably cost a couple of hundred dollars, no big deal.

When you think about all the hard work Palin did as governor and as VP candidate, money like this doesn't matter.

Hard work like keeping the earmark money although the bridge got cancelled or shooting wolves from a plane?
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Re: AP INVESTIGATION: Alaska funded Palin kids' travel
« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2008, 05:42:17 PM »
So what, it probably cost a couple of hundred dollars, no big deal.

When you think about all the hard work Palin did as governor and as VP candidate, money like this doesn't matter.

No it cost 21,000 dollars.  Her kids are not employees of the state. Therefor why is the state paying for her kids?

Did you see the bottom? They took a trip with their mom to Philly and it cost the state 2100.  Why are her fucking kids not in SCHOOL?

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Re: AP INVESTIGATION: Alaska funded Palin kids' travel
« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2008, 06:41:47 PM »
No it cost 21,000 dollars.  Her kids are not employees of the state. Therefor why is the state paying for her kids?

Did you see the bottom? They took a trip with their mom to Philly and it cost the state 2100.  Why are her fucking kids not in SCHOOL?

in Alaska, they don't need school.  Levi is not working for Mr. Palin's oil company.  He didn't need high school - he's on pace to be an oil executive before that little bastard baby has learned to say 'libb'.
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Re: AP INVESTIGATION: Alaska funded Palin kids' travel
« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2008, 07:22:46 AM »
No it cost 21,000 dollars.  Her kids are not employees of the state. Therefor why is the state paying for her kids?

Did you see the bottom? They took a trip with their mom to Philly and it cost the state 2100.  Why are her fucking kids not in SCHOOL?

As a mom I want to know this too? The kids are always onstage with her now, in fact as I type they are. School is in session, these kids have not been in school for weeks it appears.

There is nothing funny about obstructing education.

And plus $21,000 the taxpayer picked up for her kids to jaunt around when, husbands clothes and the baby's pram was bought with campaign funds as well here

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Re: AP INVESTIGATION: Alaska funded Palin kids' travel
« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2008, 08:05:01 AM »
Shit she probably had to get Bristol out of the state...she's already knocked up (at least once that we know of) & would be out doing god knows what else.

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Re: AP INVESTIGATION: Alaska funded Palin kids' travel
« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2008, 11:45:10 AM »
As a mom I want to know this too? The kids are always onstage with her now, in fact as I type they are. School is in session, these kids have not been in school for weeks it appears.

There is nothing funny about obstructing education.

And plus $21,000 the taxpayer picked up for her kids to jaunt around when, husbands clothes and the baby's pram was bought with campaign funds as well here

They're probably learning ten times more on the campaign trail than they would sitting in a class room in Alaska.
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Re: AP INVESTIGATION: Alaska funded Palin kids' travel
« Reply #10 on: October 22, 2008, 11:46:58 AM »
As a mom I want to know this too? The kids are always onstage with her now, in fact as I type they are. School is in session, these kids have not been in school for weeks it appears.

There is nothing funny about obstructing education.

And plus $21,000 the taxpayer picked up for her kids to jaunt around when, husbands clothes and the baby's pram was bought with campaign funds as well here

Why do you ignore the fact that Biden pawned his kids off on his sister after his wife and their infant daughter died? I wonder if they liked growing up without their father or their mother, knowing that their father valued his career more than his family.

You must not be too familiar with the concept of home schooling, either.

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Re: AP INVESTIGATION: Alaska funded Palin kids' travel
« Reply #11 on: October 23, 2008, 07:19:37 AM »
You must not be too familiar with the concept of home schooling, either.

Perhaps you can supply a link where they are receiving this?

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Re: AP INVESTIGATION: Alaska funded Palin kids' travel
« Reply #12 on: October 23, 2008, 10:29:15 AM »
Why do you ignore the fact that Biden pawned his kids off on his sister after his wife and their infant daughter died? I wonder if they liked growing up without their father or their mother, knowing that their father valued his career more than his family.

You must not be too familiar with the concept of home schooling, either.


LOL, I was homeschooled till I was 12....lived on a remote place and was only option. Were you? ;)

I am not this dense. The kids are appearing onstage with her at almost every rally, and I do not see them reading books or doing homework. They are waving at crowds and standing around onstage constantly.  The kids are out of school, that is really quite obvious.

Also, your first bit, that is closer to home then you know. Next time your wife and child die come talk to me about how well you handle it. That is very upsetting, and possibly he did that for a time while he regrouped mentally, as he did raise his kids. Nice to know Biden has supportive family though, some don't.


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Re: AP INVESTIGATION: Alaska funded Palin kids' travel
« Reply #13 on: October 23, 2008, 12:11:29 PM »
LOL, I was homeschooled till I was 12....lived on a remote place and was only option. Were you? ;)

I am not this dense. The kids are appearing onstage with her at almost every rally, and I do not see them reading books or doing homework. They are waving at crowds and standing around onstage constantly.  The kids are out of school, that is really quite obvious.

Also, your first bit, that is closer to home then you know. Next time your wife and child die come talk to me about how well you handle it. That is very upsetting, and possibly he did that for a time while he regrouped mentally, as he did raise his kids. Nice to know Biden has supportive family though, some don't.



So you're saying that appearing on stage at a rally leaves you no time to read books? LOL. Here I was thinking all those kids who participate in things like band and sports in high school still find time to go home and do a couple of hours of homework every night. But hey, apparently you know what goes on during every single moment of their lives.

Funny on the Biden comment, too. So it's ok for him to pawn his kids off on his sister while he pursues his own career (even after they lost their mother and sister) but God forbid Palin's 17 year old daughter goes off on her own and gets knocked up. Ridiculously hypocritical. I find it pretty pathetic to be honest that he cared more about his career than his children. But hey, only further proves that the republicans AND democrats are scumbags.

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Re: AP INVESTIGATION: Alaska funded Palin kids' travel
« Reply #14 on: October 23, 2008, 01:22:08 PM »
They're probably learning ten times more on the campaign trail than they would sitting in a class room in Alaska.

yeah learning that when you get a subpoena your dad ignores it... learns how to preach hate to crowds... learn how to be in denial of the truth as in troopergate, nice learning lesson on the campaign