If Obama Wins.

[OzmO]

I'm not in the LA area.

OC right?   You are with in the danger for a nuke in the area.   are you gonna move?

[The Coach]

OC right?   You are with in the danger for a nuke in the area.   are you gonna move?

Nope, when Long Beach harbor gets hit after Obama becomes president and I live through it, I'll just come on here saying "I told you so!"

[OzmO]

Nope, when Long Beach harbor gets hit after Obama becomes president and I live through it, I'll just come on here saying "I told you so!"

You'd risk your family?  that's pretty stupid.

[The Coach]

You'd risk your family?  that's pretty stupid.

You don't sound too confident of Obama if you think I'm risking my family by not moving. Am I supposed to live my life in fear? You live in SF, are you going to move your family?

[OzmO]

You don't sound too confident of Obama if you think I'm risking my family by not moving. Am I supposed to live my life in fear? You live in SF, are you going to move your family?

I don't buy into the delusion that says if a democrat is president a city will get nuked.   If i was that daft, I'd be more afraid of a republican in power because the deadliest attack in US history occurred on with a republican president.  And under the repubs our border is still wide open and will be under the dems.

Are you supposed to live your life in fear?  I'd think that if you truly believed the BS you've spouted about a nuke if a dem gets into power you'd move.  But now it's more than obvious you had ZERO integrity when it came to warning people about that.

You've pasted pictures of a nuke going off in the past as a warning to people about what's going to happen if dems get into power.

If you don't move Coach, it pretty much says you are a __________.   I'll let you fill in the blank.   

[The Coach]

I don't buy into the delusion that says if a democrat is president a city will get nuked.   If i was that daft, I'd be more afraid of a republican in power because the deadliest attack in US history occurred on with a republican president.  And under the repubs our border is still wide open and will be under the dems.

Are you supposed to live your life in fear?  I'd think that if you truly believed the BS you've spouted about a nuke if a dem gets into power you'd move.  But now it's more than obvious you had ZERO integrity when it came to warning people about that.

You've pasted pictures of a nuke going off in the past as a warning to people about what's going to happen if dems get into power.

If you don't move Coach, it pretty much says you are a __________.   I'll let you fill in the blank.   

We haven't been hit in 7 years and God knows they have tried and have been stopped. Biden himself said that if elected Obama would be tested (on our soil). Do you actually think for one second that if they tried that with McCain, he wouldn't hesitate for a second to back over there and level the f**k out of the middle east?

[Straw Man]

It will go down as the biggest fraudulent and dirtiest victory in the history of our country.


Discuss.

Seriously, I was thinking the exact same thing

If mccain is declared the winner

[OzmO]

We haven't been hit in 7 years and God knows they have tried and have been stopped. Biden himself said that if elected Obama would be tested (on our soil). Do you actually think for one second that if they tried that with McCain, he wouldn't hesitate for a second to back over there and level the f**k out of the middle east?

Well do you?  If you do, then will you move?

On top of that, a repub president didn't stop them initially.

also, It's not the pres.  It the people's outcry.  What was the  outcry like with 9/11?   Imagine what how the world would change if a nuke went off.  the ME would be a colony no matter who's pres at the time.

[JOHN MATRIX]

the time of conservatives is coming to an end forever, they are wetting their beds at night and stamping their feet in anger. haha

[24KT]

No pain what so ever. I just don't have "sucker" written across my forehead.

You will when the commie socialists come after your money. They're comin' for it, ...and they're gonna get it. 

[the_steevo_uk]

We haven't been hit in 7 years and God knows they have tried and have been stopped. Biden himself said that if elected Obama would be tested (on our soil). Do you actually think for one second that if they tried that with McCain, he wouldn't hesitate for a second to back over there and level the f**k out of the middle east?

No coach he wouldnt level the f*ck out of the middle east...McCain is not some psychotic maniac whose willing to start world war three. If youd been following the news the terrorist crazy folk said they were planning something REGARDLESS of who got into the whitehouse.

A side note, I love it how you can casually say that its ok to just level the f*ck out of somewhere, you sound like a 16 year old watching his first Iron Eagle film and getting all gung ho...secondly if you dont think that the 2000 vote was the biggest fraud in history your living on a planet far away from this one.

I used to take your posts seriously but I realise now your a completely biased moron

[drkaje]

You guys are embarrassing yourselves... and me for respecting some of ya'll.

[Benny B]

I used to take your posts seriously but I realise now your a completely biased moron

What took you so long? 

[the_steevo_uk]

What took you so long? 

I just got myself a new pair of glasses...probably had something to do with it 

[mogulgangi]

It will go down as the biggest fraudulent and dirtiest victory in the history of our country.


Discuss.

how can someone spend 160 million on advertising?......why hasent obama given that money to the people...u know speadd the wealth around.....he has outspend john maccain on advertsing 7 to 1...why are all the sudden media outlets being so partisan in the democratic side....weird...i say people are being pay offf everywhere...not the way to win

[shootfighter1]

I wouldn't say the dirtiest campaign.  Whats difficult to do is separate what is coming from Obama & his camp and what is coming from left wing nuts.  I choose to believe (and hope) most of the nasty attacks are from the segment of left wing nutjob supporters.

[George Whorewell]

I think the fear many Americans have is with merit. Obama wants to turn this country into another Europe. Socialist, cowardly, unwilling to engage in any prolonged conflict with anyone and would rather be liked by the enemy instead of confronting the enemy. I'm not sure that we get nuked when he takes over. But I will tell you one thing, we will 100% be attacked again on our shores. Put it in the bank.

PS- Oz, saying 911 took place when Bush was in office is very misleading. He had barely hung up his coat in the oval office when we got hit. Most of FBI, NSA, CIA etc. was exactly in tact from the Clinton administration & the scum who attacked the WTC in 1993 began planning for the 2001 attack almost immediately after their first attack was unsucessful. The Clinton administrations idiotic decision to try those responsible for the 1993 attack in a regular civilian court was as much to blame for the 2001 attack as anything else ( Beyond Clinton not taking Bin Laden as a threat seriously, cutting military funding, etc. etc. etc. I could go on forever). 

Little known fact: One of the perpatrators of the 1993 attack was caught after going back to the rental car place where he rented the van he used to move the explosives to get back his $50 deposit.

[Option D]

I think the fear many Americans have is with merit. Obama wants to turn this country into another Europe. Socialist, cowardly, unwilling to engage in any prolonged conflict with anyone and would rather be liked by the enemy instead of confronting the enemy. I'm not sure that we get nuked when he takes over. But I will tell you one thing, we will 100% be attacked again on our shores. Put it in the bank.

PS- Oz, saying 911 took place when Bush was in office is very misleading. He had barely hung up his coat in the oval office when we got hit. Most of FBI, NSA, CIA etc. was exactly in tact from the Clinton administration & the scum who attacked the WTC in 1993 began planning for the 2001 attack almost immediately after their first attack was unsucessful. The Clinton administrations idiotic decision to try those responsible for the 1993 attack in a regular civilian court was as much to blame for the 2001 attack as anything else ( Beyond Clinton not taking Bin Laden as a threat seriously, cutting military funding, etc. etc. etc. I could go on forever). 

Little known fact: One of the perpatrators of the 1993 attack was caught after going back to the rental car place where he rented the van he used to move the explosives to get back his $50 deposit.

Check this out Dick-whad..The reason for our Term System with our Offices is it dosent give time for a entire Governmental Reform Program ie, Democracy to Comunist etc...So even though Bush did try his best to fuck it up, Now someone else can come in and fix it. All this "the sky is falling" bullshit is shit you hear on AM radio...Grow the fuck up you fuckin child. Jesus H christ you say some dumb shit...

[LurkerNoMore]

When Obama wins, are you going to pull your head out of your ass so we can see the tears? 

[OzmO]

I think the fear many Americans have is with merit. Obama wants to turn this country into another Europe. Socialist, cowardly, unwilling to engage in any prolonged conflict with anyone and would rather be liked by the enemy instead of confronting the enemy. I'm not sure that we get nuked when he takes over. But I will tell you one thing, we will 100% be attacked again on our shores. Put it in the bank.

PS- Oz, saying 911 took place when Bush was in office is very misleading. He had barely hung up his coat in the oval office when we got hit. Most of FBI, NSA, CIA etc. was exactly in tact from the Clinton administration & the scum who attacked the WTC in 1993 began planning for the 2001 attack almost immediately after their first attack was unsucessful. The Clinton administrations idiotic decision to try those responsible for the 1993 attack in a regular civilian court was as much to blame for the 2001 attack as anything else ( Beyond Clinton not taking Bin Laden as a threat seriously, cutting military funding, etc. etc. etc. I could go on forever). 

Little known fact: One of the perpatrators of the 1993 attack was caught after going back to the rental car place where he rented the van he used to move the explosives to get back his $50 deposit.

Really, it's misleading?   September 2001, who had been president elect for 2 months AND full on president for 9 WHOLE months?  You nipple whores will stop at nothing to defend your nipple.

It cracks me up how people will use hindsight to justify blame.   unbelievable.  BTW.  I DON NOT blame Bush for 9/11.  No one is to blame, we were totally caught by surprise even though there were intelligence reports about the possible attack among the thousands we receive everyday.  I only stated that the worse attack in the history of the USA occur on a republican's president's watch.  And that it shows flawed logic that a Democratic president will certainly encourage an attack.

[George Whorewell]

Ok let me ask you a question. If you were a muslim terrorist organization at war with the world at large and the leader of the most powerful country on earth decided he would (a) Cut defense spending (b) Make sure all trials against captured terrorists would be held in civilian courts (c) Pull out of Iraq asap regardless of whether or not the current government has stabalized the country (d) Favors civil liberties over national security (e) Wants to sit down with the leaders of terror funding Iran, Syria and Palestine controlled Hamas (f) Is strongly favored by the appeasment happy and spineless EU which has done nothing military wise after incidents such as the madrid train bombings[ in fact the response was pulling Spanish soldiers out of Iraq and electing a socialist leader] and on and on and on, wouldn't you be emboldened to move forward with another terrorist attack? Also, consider the fact that the democratic party as a whole is known for being weak on national defense/ national security, would rather do anything except engage in military conflict and wants to be disassociated with the prior party in charge so much that they would rather admit defeat and blame it on the republicans than take affirmative steps to combat terrorism. If I were a terrorist, I would be licking my chops at the prospect of hitting America. Throw in the fact that the economy is in bad shape, and they would be stupid not to hit us when Obama is elected.

[OzmO]

Ok let me ask you a question. If you were a muslim terrorist organization at war with the world at large and the leader of the most powerful country on earth decided he would (a) Cut defense spending (b) Make sure all trials against captured terrorists would be held in civilian courts (c) Pull out of Iraq asap regardless of whether or not the current government has stabalized the country (d) Favors civil liberties over national security (e) Wants to sit down with the leaders of terror funding Iran, Syria and Palestine controlled Hamas (f) Is strongly favored by the appeasment happy and spineless EU which has done nothing military wise after incidents such as the madrid train bombings[ in fact the response was pulling Spanish soldiers out of Iraq and electing a socialist leader] and on and on and on, wouldn't you be emboldened to move forward with another terrorist attack? Also, consider the fact that the democratic party as a whole is known for being weak on national defense/ national security, would rather do anything except engage in military conflict and wants to be disassociated with the prior party in charge so much that they would rather admit defeat and blame it on the republicans than take affirmative steps to combat terrorism. If I were a terrorist, I would be licking my chops at the prospect of hitting America. Throw in the fact that the economy is in bad shape, and they would be stupid not to hit us when Obama is elected.

a.  non issue
b.  won't happen 100%
c.  not what he said
d.  skewed view
e.  He should sit down with them
f.  So what?

wouldn't you be emboldened to move forward with another terrorist attack?

We are so open for a terrorist attack it isn;t even funny.  We are just a vulnerable as we were in 2001.  Our borders are wide open and our airports are NOT secure.  I've shown this few times here, how with as little as a couple thousand dollars i could shut air travel down for a day or 2, create a nation wide panic and kill a couple hundred.   That vulnerability has been open all this time and no attack.  And it's not because they are afraid of what America will do, because America has already done what it's gonna do.

Now don't go thinking I'm suggesting there's no threat.  My point is, they could have launched another attack all this time and haven't.

Also, consider the fact that the democratic party as a whole is known for being weak on national defense/ national security, would rather do anything except engage in military conflict and wants to be disassociated with the prior party in charge so much that they would rather admit defeat and blame it on the republicans than take affirmative steps to combat terrorism.

That's you bias speaking and a common perception among people who have been manipulated by the republican propaganda machine.

If I were a terrorist, I would be licking my chops at the prospect of hitting America. Throw in the fact that the economy is in bad shape, and they would be stupid not to hit us when Obama is elected.

They are licking there chops now.  Hunkered down in a cave.

Also to, Obama strikes me as a cold calculating player.  I wouldn't put it past him to over react if something happens to America.   Don't confuse him with Carter in this sense. 

[George Whorewell]

a.  non issue
b.  won't happen 100%
c.  not what he said
d.  skewed view
e.  He should sit down with them
f.  So what?

- Cutting defense is a non issue? How do you think we gather half or our intelligence?-- Im not adressing b,c,d or e because its a matter of my opinion versus yours. As far as F goes this is huge. If the one country that has gone out of its way to combat terrorism and has proactive in preventing terrorism despite world opinion is now going to get in line with the other weaklings and embrace appeasment just because it wants to be popular-- Wouldn't that be a glaring red flag that would encourage another attack? 

We are so open for a terrorist attack it isn;t even funny.  We are just a vulnerable as we were in 2001.  Our borders are wide open and our airports are NOT secure.  I've shown this few times here, how with as little as a couple thousand dollars i could shut air travel down for a day or 2, create a nation wide panic and kill a couple hundred.   That vulnerability has been open all this time and no attack.  And it's not because they are afraid of what America will do, because America has already done what it's gonna do.

We are nowhere nearly as vulnerable as we were in 2001. How many plots have been foiled both nationally and globally since 2001? While I agree our borders are not safe, our airport security is definetly better and law enforcment on both a state, local and federal level is way more aware of whats going on. Things aren't perfect, but we are definetly safer now.

Now don't go thinking I'm suggesting there's no threat.  My point is, they could have launched another attack all this time and haven't.-- I disagree

That's you bias speaking and a common perception among people who have been manipulated by the republican propaganda machine.-- I also disagree, look at the democratic presedential record on foreign policy & look at the way democratic Senators and Congressmen vote-- There is no bias in that at all. They are licking there chops now.  Hunkered down in a cave.- LOL every islamic terrorist and their supporters are hunkered down in a cave? I also suppose they have no resources, no technology and no support from anyone I assume?

Also to, Obama strikes me as a cold calculating player.  I wouldn't put it past him to over react if something happens to America.   Don't confuse him with Carter in this sense. 

LOL I hope your right, but based on what he has shown so far, that argument is difficult to make. He's a far left Carter clone.

[drkaje]

When Obama wins, are you going to pull your head out of your ass so we can see the tears? 

Classic!!!

[Hereford]

this should be his avatar

Hey, that's a nice Dorset you have there....