"I wouldn't say I'm racist or anything...

[George Whorewell]

Im a Neocon cock gobbler because I tell the truth. lol Why am I not surprised that such an eloquent post was made in my honor?

I am "making the numbers up as I go along"? Well duh. I made a generalization, that if I cared to clarify and waste my morning digging up statistics, I would.

And I am "one of those" because I state the obvious? lolol

When has being black been an advantage in running for President? The more I post here, the more I think I'm wasiting my intellect. In the history of America how many blacks have made either parties ticket or run in the first place? Excluding Alan Keyes and Al sharpton who were both non factors, It's been Obama and Jackson. Jackson ran in 1988. Obama is running in 2008. Thats the difference.

[Benny B]

More accurate would be to say that he is half-black. It would appear that Colin Powell, by his skin tone is also half-black as is Condoleeza Rice. (a bit of white DNA seems to help) Why do blacks always claim a mixed race person to be their own? They all want to say Tiger Woods is black when in reality, he is half asian. I doubt Obama would be where he is if he were 100% black. Then again, I'm am quite sure he wouldn't be in this position if he were white. With his track record he would have never gotten this far without the novelty of his race.

1)Barack Obama defines himself as African American.  

2) Colin Powell is not biracial.

3)The reality is there is no such thing as "half Black" in America.

[Benny B]

Im a Neocon cock gobbler

'Nuff said! 

I am "making the numbers up as I go along"? Well duh.

Thanks for explaining that you are pulling random numbers out of your ass.

When has being black been an advantage in running for President? The more I post here, the more I think I'm wasiting my intellect.

"Wasiting" your intellect? LOL You have to be intelligent to waste your intellect. 

In the history of America how many blacks have made either parties ticket or run in the first place? Excluding Alan Keyes and Al sharpton who were both non factors, It's been Obama and Jackson. Jackson ran in 1988. Obama is running in 2008. Thats the difference.

Why would you exclude Alan Keyes or Rev. Al Sharpton if Blacks vote solely on race? Alan Keyes runs every four years. Why didn't Blacks flock to the Republican party to support his candidacy? What about Carol Mosely Braun, Shirley Chisolm or Rev. Jesse Jackson?

[bears]

Why should we agree with that? When has being Black been an advantage before in a presidential election?

you dont think a lot of blacks are voting for him because hes black?  hey look man im gonna vote for him and i like barack obama.  but lets not let a presidential election make us lose touch with reality ok?

[shootfighter1]

Benny, I am commenting on the email alone, not the full opinion of the sender or recepients.  I'm sure many are concerned with issues.  The email itself was specific to "voting for barack because he is black".  It was a responce to the public criticism that many blacks are voting for Barack because he is black...so the email was affirming that charge and stating they are proud to do so...which is backward.
I think a lot of black Americans want to back a black president who has committed himself to civil rights....perhaps, that desire is greater than looking at all the issues as a whole.  Hopefully we can move past that and some day all think of ourselves as American first and race second.

[Benny B]

you dont think a lot of blacks are voting for him because hes black?

ONLY because he's Black? No, no I do not. And I am likely a little more in touch with the African American community that you are. 

hey look man im gonna vote for him and i like barack obama.  but lets not let a presidential election make us lose touch with reality ok?

Whose reality, yours or mine? 

[Mark Kerr]

3)The reality is there is no such thing as "half Black" in America.

Sure there is.

Obama is the whitest "half black" man I have ever seen.

[Benny B]

Benny, I am commenting on the email alone, not the full opinion of the sender or recepients.  I'm sure many are concerned with issues.  The email itself was specific to "voting for barack because he is black".

As I stated before, I am familiar with the email. There is more to it than voting for Barack because he is Black, although certainly Blacks are taking that factor into account.

I think a lot of black Americans want to back a black president who has committed himself to civil rights....perhaps, that desire is greater than looking at all the issues as a whole.

I think you are making a lot of assumptions and some of them border on an either conscious or unconscious level of racism on your part.

 Hopefully we can move past that and some day all think of ourselves as American first and race second.

I agree, but I hope you will champion this ideal amongst your white friends and colleagues as well instead making this assumption about the Black community.

[George Whorewell]

Very clever Benny. Did you have your social worker help you with that one, or did your mother sit down and help you sound out those big words you retyped?

As to your next point, its called a generalization. I never said I had exact figures. If thats the best you can do, you really are a complete moron and a waste of my time.

Lastly, try to re-read my post very slowly. There has only been one black candidate in American history to get the nomination of either party. He got the nomination in 2008. The only other black candidate to ever come remotely close was Jesse Jackson 20 years ago. Think of America in 1988 and then think of America in 2008. C'mon Benny, put on your thinking cap and put down the crack pipe. Perhaps this exercise in contemplating American history is too difficult for you. Have someone on the board explain the ways this country has changed in the past two decades and my point will become crystal clear.

Im not going to waste my time explaining why Obama being black is an asset in this years election because you'll need a personal tutor and five mental health specialists working round the clock to explain the concept to you. I'll settle for making the statement itself. If you can't figure out why Al Sharpton and Alan Keyes dont get the nomination of their parties on a yearly basis, and why being black isn't an asset for them, then quite frankly your too stupid for me to have a conversation with. Keep hope alive brother!

[Benny B]

Sure there is.

Obama is the whitest "half black" man I have ever seen.

Ignore reality and keep telling yourself that.

[The ChemistV2]

1)Barack Obama defines himself as African American.  

2) Colin Powell is not biracial.
3)The reality is there is no such thing as "half Black" in America.

Colin Powell is half black and half irish/american.

[George Whorewell]

ONLY because he's Black? No, no I do not. And I am likely a little more in touch with the African American community that you are. 
Whose reality, yours or mine? 

LOL- Benny do believe the bullshit you type on getbig? What black community are you in touch with, the one on Pluto? BLACKS ARE VOTING FOR OBAMA BECAUSE HE IS BLACK AND A DEMOCRAT, NUFF SAID, END OF STORY.

[beef-sword]

Very clever Benny. Did you have your social worker help you with that one, or did your mother sit down and help you sound out those big words you retyped?

As to your next point, its called a generalization. I never said I had exact figures. If thats the best you can do, you really are a complete moron and a waste of my time.

Lastly, try to re-read my post very slowly. There has only been one black candidate in American history to get the nomination of either party. He got the nomination in 2008. The only other black candidate to ever come remotely close was Jesse Jackson 20 years ago. Think of America in 1988 and then think of America in 2008. C'mon Benny, put on your thinking cap and put down the crack pipe. Perhaps this exercise in contemplating American history is too difficult for you. Have someone on the board explain the ways this country has changed in the past two decades and my point will become crystal clear.

Im not going to waste my time explaining why Obama being black is an asset in this years election because you'll need a personal tutor and five mental health specialists working round the clock to explain the concept to you. I'll settle for making the statement itself. If you can't figure out why Al Sharpton and Alan Keyes dont get the nomination of their parties on a yearly basis, and why being black isn't an asset for them, then quite frankly your too stupid for me to have a conversation with. Keep hope alive brother!

everything he said x 2

[CQ]

but I'm not going to vote for a colored man."

Just heard someone say that on ABC news.  They were interviewing people at a rally.  I thought that was just funny as hell, lol...

There are racists all over the place, only thing that annoys me is when they preface their racism with saying they are not racist as above lol.I have on a couple of occasions been "hit on" by a man who I know has made racist remarks before, and would be amused if it wasn't so annoying. I prefer the clear cut racist types, then the ones that pretend they are not.

[shootfighter1]

"I think you are making a lot of assumptions and some of them border on an either conscious or unconscious level of racism on your part"

Benny, the above was an assumption but its based on things that I have heard and read.  It is not racist.  Come on man, you know some black dudes are voting for Obama primarily because he is black and has been a champion of civil rights.  This isn't racist...its an observation.  Your refusal to acknowledge that as a possibility and insinuate my comment could somehow be racist is ridiculous.  People of all races may do this to some extent.  I am happy to be able to look beyond that.  I will vote for anyone that has values and principles that I agree with...black, white, hispanic, asian, india, green, martian...I don't give a shit what they are.  Are you a bit sheltered or something?  Maybe just have a chip on your shoulder.

[IFBBwannaB]

I'm not going to vote for a white man."

Just heard Rev.Wright say it.

Fixed it for you.

[Fury]

Ahh yes, the good ol' "it's not racist if a black person votes for a black man because he's black" and the "it's racist if a white person doesn't vote for a black man" argument. Love the double standard. 

[beef-sword]

why doesn't obama rejoice in his whiteness?

it's half his race afterall....

[Hugo Chavez]

Ahh yes, the good ol' "it's not racist if a black person votes for a black man because he's black" and the "it's racist if a white person doesn't vote for a black man" argument. Love the double standard. 

why did you guys even go there with the subject/title...  Hey, I would have posted this if a black guy got on and said the same thing.  I posted it because I though it was funny to hear a guy say that in a serious way.  Do you all not see it?  "I wouldn't say I'm racist or anything, but I'm not going to vote for a colored man"

[beef-sword]

snnnurf....you amerikkkans spell coloured wrong....fnngggg

[CQ]

"I think you are making a lot of assumptions and some of them border on an either conscious or unconscious level of racism on your part"

Benny, the above was an assumption but its based on things that I have heard and read.  It is not racist.  Come on man, you know some black dudes are voting for Obama primarily because he is black and has been a champion of civil rights.  This isn't racist...its an observation.  Your refusal to acknowledge that as a possibility and insinuate my comment could somehow be racist is ridiculous.  People of all races may do this to some extent.  I am happy to be able to look beyond that.  I will vote for anyone that has values and principles that I agree with...black, white, hispanic, asian, india, green, martian...I don't give a shit what they are?  Are you a bit sheltered or something?  Maybe just have a chip on your shoulder.

Really, I think its a different perspective.

How many times Shoot do you make a perfectly normal post, and get quoted and racially slurred here?

Before I ever mentioned I was black here, all was well and peachy. Soon as I did, gates opened...which have now reduced some thank god. Is why I took time of this board due to a certain person posting racist things towards me, without provocation no less. I'd be posting about taxes or clothes the guy would launch a racial thing at me. I've been quoted and told to STFU as I am a N word. Numerous examples. Its worse on the internet yes, but issues like so are a part of my life lol. I wouldn't bother "remembering I was black" if I wasn't harrassed for being so. I know you mean well and understand where you are coming from, but as they say walk a mile in our shoes. Test it out here lol, register a new account mention you are black in passing, and see the reaction. Living in a racist world is different from living with it. Trust me. I'd like to "just be a person" - hopefully one day I will be treated as such all the time, then I can be.

[Hugo Chavez]

snnnurf....you amerikkkans spell coloured wrong....fnngggg

i spell it either way depending on what I'm typing.  both spellings are in the dictionary.

[shootfighter1]

There are ignorant assh-les everywhere CQ and I'm sorry to hear anyone has offended you.  Your one of my favorites here!  Uncalled for insults, I completely agree...but you also have to consider the source.  My guess is that its a few idiots rather than a majority of any sort.  If any ignorant f-cker would spout off racial insults to my friends in front of me, I'd be the first one to smash em.

Some is a matter of perspective, true...thats why I don't consider my friends who forwarded the chain email to me racist.  However, the email itself still isn't right.  If you are voting for someone primarily because of race, its wrong...either way and that must be acknowledged.

I have said many times on this board that I think its good for America to have a black or female president to break historical traditions...but I make my decisions based on issues and character.  When it happens, it will be an additional positive.

[CQ]

There are ignorant assh-les everywhere CQ and I'm sorry to hear anyone has offended you.  Your one of my favorites here!  Uncalled for insults, I completely agree...but you also have to consider the source.  My guess is that its a few idiots rather than a majority of any sort.  If any ignorant f-cker would spout off racial insults to my friends in front of me, I'd be the first one to smash em.

Some is a matter of perspective, true...thats why I don't consider my friends who forwarded the chain email to me racist.  However, the email itself still isn't right.  If you are voting for someone primarily because of race, its wrong...either way and that must be acknowledged.

I have said many times on this board that I think its good for America to have a black or female president to break historical traditions...but I make my decisions based on issues and character.  When it happens, it will be an additional positive.

I agree and thanks.

See, for myself, I really like Obama's foreign policy outlook. The world comprimises of 220 nations, and the days of running around trying to stand alone and bullying nations to me don't work. We all trade together, lend/borrow funds, share information etc, and may as well work together when possible, and prevent death not instigate wars with high level weaponry that cause it. I like him regardless of race, same I liked Paul but dislike Palin despite sharing a gender. Issues are also my thing.

Seeing a black, hispanic, asian, female president to me isn't really a big deal, although would be nice to see all the 1st world rid themselves of the last strings of racism/sexism. Names like Thatcher, Golda, Benazir, Marcos etc everyone should know. Minorities, woemn and even homosexuals have lead and even the lead the UN, nothing new there. Americans it is something new to yes, to much of the world old news, they crossed those barriers decades ago.

As far as perspective, for example I have had to say many times I *love* being black and have no desire to be white. Why? Because I am accused of wanting to be white, ergo insinuating there is something wrong with being black. It's not like I just come out and say that for no reason, its a reaction to someone's action. Same as many things we do, it can be in reaction, really nothing I would ever expect anyone to understand unless they are in our shoes, even if they try their best too.

[Hereford]

All you lefties know that if Barry wasn't an Oreo, he wouldn't be the Dimocratic nominee.

89% of 'coloreds' are flat up voting for Osama because A) he IS what he is, and B) He's a dem.