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Genuine question for sevastase
« on: October 25, 2008, 05:00:48 PM »
Hypothetically at 10% bf what is the biggest a true natural bbuilder can get? No steroids or PH

Also what is the strongest a 250lb guy at 10% could ever get?
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Re: Genuine question for sevastase
« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2008, 05:05:18 PM »
Quote from: Goudy on October 25, 2008, 05:00:48 PM
Hypothetically at 10% bf what is the biggest a true natural bbuilder can get? No steroids or PH

Also what is the strongest a 250lb guy at 10% could ever get?
no 1..

depends on genetics ...plus your question is too broad

second question : does not make sense

go read through gh15's posts: he stated numerous times what the limits are for natties AND hormonized relative to height and bodyfat levels .
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Re: Genuine question for sevastase
« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2008, 05:06:05 PM »
frend,,any one can become national competitor depending on the hormones he uses and wether they are legit human grade or not!

any onec an become a professional if they have good symetry and muscle shape and today you can throw the symetry out the window as in mid 2000s you dont even need that,,

foundation is good to have and thats why some bodybuilders still maintain good shape even if smaller past bodybuilding,,,80% not but 20% walk around with good physiqe because they had foundation ,,,this generation of bodybuuiloders by thw way is dissapearing
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Re: Genuine question for sevastase
« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2008, 05:07:21 PM »
Ok in the top 5% of gentically gifted.

I am asking your opinion
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Re: Genuine question for sevastase
« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2008, 05:08:14 PM »
Quote from: Goudy on October 25, 2008, 05:07:21 PM
Ok in the top 5% of gentically gifted.

I am asking your opinion
you don't make sense ...no height, bf % too high ...etc ..

stop drinking and waisting my time with idiotic questions.
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Re: Genuine question for sevastase
« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2008, 05:09:15 PM »
Quote from: Goudy on October 25, 2008, 05:07:21 PM
Ok in the top 5% of gentically gifted.


freind,,,best exemple of parfect bodyubilding genetics is PAUL DILLETTE!

god of hormones approved
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Re: Genuine question for sevastase
« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2008, 05:10:00 PM »
ok you have accused me of steroids numerous times.

I am 6'3 and 230lbs 22yrs old abs showing though around 12% i reckon maybe more
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Re: Genuine question for sevastase
« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2008, 05:11:23 PM »
Quote from: Goudy on October 25, 2008, 05:10:00 PM
ok you have accused me of steroids numerous times.

I am 6'3 and 230lbs 22yrs old abs showing though around 12% i reckon maybe more
I don't give a fuck about you ...

come back when you can actually bench what you said you do and post a video .

be gone
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Re: Genuine question for sevastase
« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2008, 05:12:27 PM »
I am asking a genuine question.

i said i can bench 375. Ill stand by that.

Why the hate my folically challenged friend?
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Re: Genuine question for sevastase
« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2008, 05:14:07 PM »
Sev laying down the smack.
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Re: Genuine question for sevastase
« Reply #10 on: October 25, 2008, 05:14:23 PM »
The problem is, while you may be able to prove that you bench that, you won't be able to prove that you're natural.
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Re: Genuine question for sevastase
« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2008, 05:15:23 PM »
the human body can naturaly get very strong... of course ti will be stronger faster on hormones.. but there are true naturals who get very very strong.... but they will not look lean and like a bodybuilder... its only when a guy is diced and strong that his strength makes him impossible to be natural.. a natural aint gonna be diced and lifting super heavy.. a natural, if diced, is gonna have minimal strength and only some muscle (compared to competive bodyb buolder not average public)
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Re: Genuine question for sevastase
« Reply #12 on: October 25, 2008, 05:15:38 PM »
Fair point. Only thing i reckon can prove to a reasonable degree i am is photos from teh past 4 years...getting larger slowly etc stronger slowly plus i was big before i ever trained.
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Re: Genuine question for sevastase
« Reply #13 on: October 25, 2008, 05:16:48 PM »
Quote from: tbombz on October 25, 2008, 05:15:23 PM
the human body can naturaly get very strong... of course ti will be stronger faster on hormones.. but there are true naturals who get very very strong.... but they will not look lean and like a bodybuilder... its only when a guy is diced and strong that his strength makes him impossible to be natural.. a natural aint gonna be diced and lifting super heavy.. a natural, if diced, is gonna have minimal strength and only some muscle (compared to competive bodyb buolder not average public)

Correct. At 10% we had a 23year old in ireland around 230lbs deadlifted over 700lbs in the idfpa, affialiated to th e wdfpf.

This fella was 6'5 with arms like monkeys...he was etsted on numerous occassions.
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Re: Genuine question for sevastase
« Reply #14 on: October 25, 2008, 05:18:24 PM »
Quote from: wavelength on October 25, 2008, 05:14:23 PM
The problem is, while you may be able to prove that you bench that, you won't be able to prove that you're natural.
:D

he said he benches 385 now it's 375 ..hahahaha ...whatever ...

I asked him to post a video ...

He posts a video of a single w/ 335 with his arms shaking like crazy...

he said he won't jeopardize his workouts by posting a single w/ his max weight but he does this :


THIS PHONEY ASKS ME TO GET A CALCULATOR AND COMPUTE HIS MAX BASED ON THE FACT THAT HE SAYS HE DOES 6 REPS W/ 315 ... :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
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Re: Genuine question for sevastase
« Reply #15 on: October 25, 2008, 05:20:46 PM »
It was always 375lbs i can sssure you this.

The video was of 341lbs after my normal flat benching.

I said surely it is possible for you to believe that 1year ago having done 140kgx6 that i could do 170kg (375lbs) now.

You seem upset my balding buddy
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Re: Genuine question for sevastase
« Reply #16 on: October 25, 2008, 05:22:33 PM »
Quote from: Goudy on October 25, 2008, 05:20:46 PM
It was always 375lbs i can sssure you this.

The video was of 341lbs after my normal flat benching.

I said surely it is possible for you to believe that 1year ago having done 140kgx6 that i could do 170kg (375lbs) now.

You seem upset my balding buddy
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beat it , michael

you are embarassing yourself ..
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Re: Genuine question for sevastase
« Reply #17 on: October 25, 2008, 05:23:38 PM »
Quote from: Goudy on October 25, 2008, 05:16:48 PM
Correct. At 10% we had a 23year old in ireland around 230lbs deadlifted over 700lbs in the idfpa, affialiated to th e wdfpf.

This fella was 6'5 with arms like monkeys...he was etsted on numerous occassions.

Still no prove of him being natural. I also know powerlifters who claim to not having used the stuff when winning their first competitions (all tested). If I believe them or not is irrelevant, only they know if it's true.
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Re: Genuine question for sevastase
« Reply #18 on: October 25, 2008, 05:26:07 PM »
341lbs pre exhausted

1x25kg 2x20kg 1x2.5kg a side. Whilst not being easy I would be sure i have 15kg left in me



140kgx6 1 year ago

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Re: Genuine question for sevastase
« Reply #19 on: October 25, 2008, 05:27:34 PM »
Quote from: wavelength on October 25, 2008, 05:23:38 PM
Still no prove of him being natural. I also know powerlifters who claim to not having used the stuff when winning their first competitions (all tested). If I believe them or not is irrelevant, only they know if it's true.

Only proof is the drugs tests...sent away to WADA lab in Belguim I think.
They watch the piss come from your dick and then sign and seal it. You pick the containers, the pens the seals everything. Its as strict as they could possibly make it within feasability
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Re: Genuine question for sevastase
« Reply #20 on: October 25, 2008, 05:28:42 PM »
Quote from: sevastase on October 25, 2008, 05:05:18 PM
no 1..

depends on genetics ...plus your question is too broad

second question : does not make sense

go read through gh15's posts: he stated numerous times what the limits are for natties AND hormonized relative to height and bodyfat levels .

Good reply.
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Re: Genuine question for sevastase
« Reply #21 on: October 25, 2008, 05:30:54 PM »
Quote from: Goudy on October 25, 2008, 05:27:34 PM
Only proof is the drugs tests...sent away to WADA lab in Belguim I think.
They watch the piss come from your dick and then sign and seal it. You pick the containers, the pens the seals everything. Its as strict as they could possibly make it within feasability

That's no prove of being natural, just prove of not being retarded.
Or are we talking completely random testing here, anytime during the year?
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Re: Genuine question for sevastase
« Reply #22 on: October 25, 2008, 05:32:19 PM »
competition and out of competition testing. He has passed both
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Re: Genuine question for sevastase
« Reply #23 on: October 25, 2008, 05:33:28 PM »
Quote from: sevastase on October 25, 2008, 05:11:23 PM
I don't give a fuck about you ...

come back when you can actually bench what you said you do and post a video .

be gone

HAHAHA!!!!!!!!
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Re: Genuine question for sevastase
« Reply #24 on: October 25, 2008, 05:36:53 PM »
Quote from: Goudy on October 25, 2008, 05:32:19 PM
competition and out of competition testing. He has passed both

Not familiar with the W.D.F.P.F. Depends on their method of testing.

In any case, you are one strong mofo. The highest I ever benched was 264.
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