what's the big deal with Tren?

[c3474]

  Why are newbies dicouraged from using tren? It sounds like it has fewer side effects than most varieties of test.  I am just starting my first cycle, how many b4 you guys recommend I give trenbalone acetate a whirl?

[Luolamies]

I've done about 7-8 cycles not sure anymore, heh. And even i have stayed away from tren. Trenbolone and Anadrol are two of the strongest steroids out there and newbies all have very fresh reseptors so there's no need to bombard your system heavily at your first go. Also, i do believe that roid rage is a myth, but tren sure affects your mental status, at least that is what everyone of my training partners have told me. Also it has much nastier sides than test. Most sides from test are manageble by simply adding anti-E to the cycle.

[Rimbaud]

  Why are newbies dicouraged from using tren? It sounds like it has fewer side effects than most varieties of test.  I am just starting my first cycle, how many b4 you guys recommend I give trenbalone acetate a whirl?

I think Luolamies summed it up pretty well. Either way...why would you want to try everything your first time? It's like guys who take massive doses of numerous drugs within their first cycle or two. If you're inexperienced you may not even need all that to make solid gains.

[strength]

  Why are newbies dicouraged from using tren? It sounds like it has fewer side effects than most varieties of test.  I am just starting my first cycle, how many b4 you guys recommend I give trenbalone acetate a whirl?

Because it is a very strong compound with the potential for some very serious side effects.  It is also highly suppressive.  Needs to be respected and not abused...

[Overload]

  It sounds like it has fewer side effects than most varieties of test. ?

No way.

Suspension has aweful sides, but all other Test esters are a walk in the park compared to Tren.

Everyone reacts differently, but i got horrible anxiety, insomnia and sweating from Tren and i only used 400mg EW.

Tren "can" be too much mentally for some people, the anxiety/emotional issues are real, but not all people experience them.

Tren made me feel on edge the entire cycle, and that is not always a good thing in a business atmosphere. For lifting weights it's great though.

Tren and Halo are the only two compounds that made me aggressive 24/7, and i am a very calm person 99% of the time.

[tbombz]

only time i have gotten roid rage was using high dosed tren and i had a clinched jaw all day long and was the most testy person you would have ever met.  i even wanted to fight one of my professors. 

[Emmortal]

only time i have gotten roid rage was using high dosed tren and i had a clinched jaw all day long and was the most testy person you would have ever met.  i even wanted to fight one of my professors. 

That's the thing with tren, you can get away with using a lot less.  More doesn't equate to better with this compound, especially if you are prone to the sides.

[iron_dawg]

tren most be respected the sides can be harsh...but my favorite drug to use

[Mega Man]

so are the serious sides of tren, just mental? That what it seems like. Cause hair loss, acne, that always comes with test and the others.....so it seem like only difference with tren is the mental issues and sweating.....is this correct?

[DIVISION]

Tren and Halo are the only two compounds that made me aggressive 24/7, and i am a very calm person 99% of the time.

As long as you can compartmentalize your aggression and keep it in the gym, you'll be straight, Overload.

If you can't control your emotions, you can't handle Halo or Tren.

Personally, I love both of them.

I feel less human and more animal when I'm on them, esp Halo.

Have you ever been on a Sustanon/Tren/Halo cycle?

That is something that would see all your lifts go up, but could also impact your professional and personal life.

Your girlfriend might enjoy the rough sex, though........and the frequency.   


DIV

[Arnold jr]

so are the serious sides of tren, just mental? That what it seems like. Cause hair loss, acne, that always comes with test and the others.....so it seem like only difference with tren is the mental issues and sweating.....is this correct?

Insomnia, night sweats, increased heart rate and/or blood pressure are all fairly common...especially if used for any real length of time.

[DIVISION]

Insomnia, night sweats, increased heart rate and/or blood pressure are all fairly common...especially if used for any real length of time.

I've never had those issues with Tren.........EVER.

Some guys, however, just can't tolerate it.

I tend to think Tren is rough on those who have sensitive systems in general.


DIV

[Arnold jr]

I've never had those issues with Tren.........EVER.

Some guys, however, just can't tolerate it.

I tend to think Tren is rough on those who have sensitive systems in general.


DIV

It does seem to cause me to dream fairly on "the odd side." Also, if I run it for an extended period of time, my blood pressure does go up a bit. If I run it for time frames of 12wks as I have in the past, I tend to keep an accelerated heart rate even while at rest...this just isn't good.

I prefer burst of tren....6wks on, 3-4wks off, 6wks on, etc.

[Captain Equipoise]

Insomnia, night sweats, increased heart rate and/or blood pressure are all fairly common...especially if used for any real length of time.

Not to mention you become downright psychotic, me and my friends nicknamed tren 'the widowmaker' ,  tren + suspension and some halo is a recipe to land in jail or police custody, the insomnia and night sweats suck too, and once in a while when you shoot you get the metallic taste in your mouth... would never recommend it to a newb. I've seen friends go to jail cause they couldn't control the rages it gave them, it really does make people psychotic and unstable.

[PRAXIS]

True Story. One punch shattered some guys cheek bone and eye socket on tren. Got me 16 months. I will never touch Tren again.

[Captain Equipoise]

I've never had those issues with Tren.........EVER.

Some guys, however, just can't tolerate it.

I tend to think Tren is rough on those who have sensitive systems in general.


DIV

Maybe you got bunk tren, everyone gets those sides on tren.

[DIVISION]

Maybe you got bunk tren, everyone gets those sides on tren.

No, they don't.

I don't get "bunk" anything......

I generally get all the good effects of Tren......increased strength, size and fat loss, but no insomnia nor "tren dick" or anything like that.

Tren, for me is the perfect anabolic adjunct to my Sustanon.

I'm very picky in terms of which UG's I get Tren from.

The UG owner I know personally in Florida and Chris (GPL) were the only kids I ever trusted on that shit.


DIV

[Arnold jr]

No, they don't.

I don't get "bunk" anything......

I generally get all the good effects of Tren......increased strength, size and fat loss, but no insomnia nor "tren dick" or anything like that.

Tren, for me is the perfect anabolic adjunct to my Sustanon.

I'm very picky in terms of which UG's I get Tren from.

The UG owner I know personally in Florida and Chris (GPL) were the only kids I ever trusted on that shit.


DIV

Have you tried the Jinan Pharm tren yet?

I always like GPL's tren, was one of the better...but the Jinan Pharm IMO seems to be the best tren on the market right now and for that matter since I've ever touched the stuff.

[DIVISION]

Have you tried the Jinan Pharm tren yet?

I always like GPL's tren, was one of the better...but the Jinan Pharm IMO seems to be the best tren on the market right now and for that matter since I've ever touched the stuff.

The Trenax?

Yes, it gave me alot of swelling......didn't want to try any more other than what I got free.

Chris was the best UG owner I knew.........

He was a good guy, just got in way too deep.

I feel sad for guys like him......wife, kids........



DIV

[WillGrant]

Maybe you got bunk tren, everyone gets those sides on tren.

Disagree mate.
I never get the cough or the mad night sweats the only thing I get is trouble getting to sleep but once im off the dreams are just so whack and vivid..
I get the aggression and feel a bit "angrier" but can handle and chanel it towards my work outs,,guys using tren as an excuse for random acts of violence are idiots , if you cant handle it dont use it.

Its the only compound where I can see the change with in days of getting on , all my poundages go up , can crank out more reps and you just dont wana stop,I hate comming off cos I lose a few reps here and there..I get full but vascular at the same time , its my fave compound..iv only ever tryed TA but mates say TE is even better , and on a side note these guys are on lots of test and high doses I might add plus running tren and they dont flip out in public , or act like asses and cause mayhem , again if you are to immature to use it then dont. 

[DIVISION]

Disagree mate.
I never get the cough or the mad night sweats the only thing I get is trouble getting to sleep but once im off the dreams are just so whack and vivid..
I get the aggression and feel a bit "angrier" but can handle and chanel it towards my work outs,,guys using tren as an excuse for random acts of violence are idiots , if you cant handle it dont use it.

Its the only compound where I can see the change with in days of getting on , all my poundages go up , can crank out more reps and you just dont wana stop,I hate comming off cos I lose a few reps here and there..I get full but vascular at the same time , its my fave compound..iv only ever tryed TA but mates say TE is even better , and on a side note these guys are on lots of test and high doses I might add plus running tren and they dont flip out in public , or act like asses and cause mayhem , again if you are to immature to use it then dont. 

If you can handle your emotions on Halo and/or Tren you can handle your emotions during ANYTHING.

I'm not an emotional person.

Channeling my anger has helped my strength more than anything.....

Most lifters can't do that, or simply don't know how.


DIV

[WillGrant]

If you can handle your emotions on Halo and/or Tren you can handle your emotions during ANYTHING.

I'm not an emotional person.

Channeling my anger has helped my strength more than anything.....

Most lifters can't do that, or simply don't know how.


DIV

Im an emotional person  but can chanel the aggression toward my training , so maybe Im just lucky.
Im not naturaly a violent person either , but again if you cant keep a lid on that sort of stuff dont use it.

[Emmortal]

I have no emotions, I'm dead inside.

[LurkerNoMore]

  Why are newbies dicouraged from using tren? It sounds like it has fewer side effects than most varieties of test.  I am just starting my first cycle, how many b4 you guys recommend I give trenbalone acetate a whirl?

All the posters above have good opinions listed about tren and their personal use.

To specifically address your question about why it is not good for a first cycle, it is mainly because on a first cycle you will literally gain no matter what you use.  There is really no point jumping directly into a strong compound like tren when you are practically guranteed gains from lesser compounds.  (Taking into account you get decent shit that is dosed properly).

You can easily do a small dose of test, along with something like deca or eq or winstrol or anavar and see great gains for a first cycle.  Next cycle - depending on your REALISTIC goals, REALISTIC expectations, and REALISTIC potential, (you would be amazed at how many lie to themselves about all three of those) you can add in a stronger compound.  Third cycle, stronger still.  Of course if you are still making quality gains with compounds that are easier on the system there would be no reason to add in stronger compounds or higher doses until you have actually reached a definite plateau. 

It makes no sense in using it to achieve the same results (lean gains on a first cycle) that you would get from other choices. 

[DIVISION]

I have no emotions, I'm dead inside.

Must be nice.

I'm almost there, but eventually someone always pulls what's left out of me.

Just when I thought I was dead, a woman brought life out of me.

Women do that sometimes.


DIV