What do you think about Obama radio interview calling for "Redistribution of wealth"?

[IFBBwannaB]

My statement is relevant.  I don't give a flying rats ass if you don't think so. I posted it for a reason... or I can just end this and kill all threads like this from here on out if that'll make you happier.

What do you think about Obama radio interview calling for "Redistribution of wealth"?

Come on now...stop denying facts....step up and answer.

[Soul Crusher]

What do you think about Obama radio interview calling for "Redistribution of wealth"?

Come on now...stop denying facts....step up and answer.

They could care less.  This false messiah could shoot their mothers in front of them and they would still worship him.

Most of the people voting for ZERO are no different than the Jim Jones cult.

Taxing ANYBODY more right now is just stupid.  Most of the people who espouse ZERO's form of marxism have never run a business, never had a real job, never had responsibilities, and probably have never even taken an economics 101 class. 

[shootfighter1]

8 or more years ago, the majority in this country would have been critical of this policy...after Bush, it seems like many are willing to accept it because they want a new leader in Washington.  IMO, we already have a graduated tax policy and there is no need to increase taxation penalties for success more than they already are.  The gov should close loopholes and make sure people & corporations are reporting income correctly.

[Hugo Chavez]

I'm very concerned with the redistribution of wealth from the middle class to a very small fraction of people.  McBush should be ashamed.  Obama not going along with this attack on the middle class and is the best guy to reverse this disturbing trend.  McBush=$170 billion a year in tax cuts to corporations which is a redistribution of wealth ACCORDING TO MCCAIN 4 billion additional cuts for Exxon Mobil... gimme a break....

[Soul Crusher]

I'm very concerned with the redistribution of wealth from the middle class to a very small fraction of people.  McBush should be ashamed.  Obama not going along with this attack on the middle class and is the best guy to reverse this disturbing trend.  McBush=$170 billion a year in tax cuts to corporations which is a redistribution of wealth ACCORDING TO MCCAIN 4 billion additional cuts for Exxon Mobil... gimme a break....

Hey moron, ending the Bush tax cuts result in a tax increase for many middle class people since the rates are going back up.

Anyone who believes ZERO is going to give a tax break to anyone is delusional at best. 

Cutting taxes is not resdistrubting wealth.  Its noth the govt's money to begin with you commie stooge. 

The money I earn is mine, not yours or your welfare and malcontent constituencies.

[Hedgehog]

What do you think about Obama radio interview calling for "Redistribution of wealth"?

Come on now...stop denying facts....step up and answer.

I think one of the biggest analytical mistakes by the McCain camp is to pick up on the redistribution thing as something they can slam Obama for.

I have a feeling that swing voters actually wants some redistribution, my guess is that many believes that banks and oil companies have gotten filthy rich.

Then you have McCain slamming attempts of redistribution the wealth?

I think he goes about it the wrong way.
McCain needs to address how he's gonna fix the economy, how he will fix relations with Russia, energy dependency, et al. He needs to become the caretaker.
It's probably to late though. 

[Soul Crusher]

I think one of the biggest analytical mistakes by the McCain camp is to pick up on the redistribution thing as something they can slam Obama for.

I have a feeling that swing voters actually wants some redistribution, my guess is that many believes that banks and oil companies have gotten filthy rich.

Then you have McCain slamming attempts of redistribution the wealth?

I think he goes about it the wrong way.
McCain needs to address how he's gonna fix the economy, how he will fix relations with Russia, energy dependency, et al. He needs to become the caretaker.
It's probably to late though. 

Great, just what we need, millions of citizens demanding for money to be taken from those that do to be given to ZERO to doll out as he pleases.

I never thought I would ever live to see the day when Americans were begging for communism.  The public education systema nd media has done its job well.

 

[shootfighter1]

As it is now, we have a graduated tax policy.  It is already skewed to higher taxation for the wealthy.  What don't you guys understand.  Why would we make it worse?  Makes little sense to punish success to a greater degree than is done now.
I agree with you on tax cuts to corporations.  That is a complicated issue but needs to be examined thoroughly.  We must prevent federal kickbacks and favoritism to corporations.

[240 is Back]

why do so many normal people defend the rich getting richer, while the middle class shrinks?

Is it some sort of moral obligation?  Do they not know what 4 or 8 more years of the same economic policy will bring?  Do they not turn on the news this morning, and see Asian markets down 12% and the DOw about to jump off a cliff despite another fed rate cut?  Q3 and Q4 are going to be be 2% and 4% negative growth - and that's a conservative estimate - I mean we're looking at 4 quarters of negative growth - and you're still pissing and moaning because Obama wants to take some money from Bush, Cheney, and Swiss banks and put it in the pockets of walmart shoppers?

Geez.

[Hugo Chavez]

Hey moron, ending the Bush tax cuts result in a tax increase for many middle class people since the rates are going back up.

Anyone who believes ZERO is going to give a tax break to anyone is delusional at best. 

Cutting taxes is not resdistrubting wealth.  Its noth the govt's money to begin with you commie stooge. 

The money I earn is mine, not yours or your welfare and malcontent constituencies.

Hey Moron, I was going by McCain's definition of redistribution of wealth, not mine...

[OzmO]

why do so many normal people defend the rich getting richer, while the middle class shrinks?

Is it some sort of moral obligation?  Do they not know what 4 or 8 more years of the same economic policy will bring?  Do they not turn on the news this morning, and see Asian markets down 12% and the DOw about to jump off a cliff despite another fed rate cut?  Q3 and Q4 are going to be be 2% and 4% negative growth - and that's a conservative estimate - I mean we're looking at 4 quarters of negative growth - and you're still pissing and moaning because Obama wants to take some money from Bush, Cheney, and Swiss banks and put it in the pockets of walmart shoppers?

Geez.

It's what idealistic peasant farmers used to say in the 1200's

BIG f-ing deal.  If you make over 250K year you'll have to pay how much more?

It's better then the republican PARTY'S history of REDISTRIBUTION OF DEBT.

[Decker]

I think one of the biggest analytical mistakes by the McCain camp is to pick up on the redistribution thing as something they can slam Obama for.

I have a feeling that swing voters actually wants some redistribution, my guess is that many believes that banks and oil companies have gotten filthy rich.

Then you have McCain slamming attempts of redistribution the wealth?

I think he goes about it the wrong way.
McCain needs to address how he's gonna fix the economy, how he will fix relations with Russia, energy dependency, et al. He needs to become the caretaker.
It's probably to late though. 

Considering that Big Oil gets subsidized (read hand out) from the People to the tune of around $55 billion a year, I'd say getting some of that back is a matter of fairness especially in light of the fact that Big Oil has set records for profits.

Why do the most profitable companies in history still need tax payer subsidies?  They don't.

[Soul Crusher]

why do so many normal people defend the rich getting richer, while the middle class shrinks?

Is it some sort of moral obligation?  Do they not know what 4 or 8 more years of the same economic policy will bring?  Do they not turn on the news this morning, and see Asian markets down 12% and the DOw about to jump off a cliff despite another fed rate cut?  Q3 and Q4 are going to be be 2% and 4% negative growth - and that's a conservative estimate - I mean we're looking at 4 quarters of negative growth - and you're still pissing and moaning because Obama wants to take some money from Bush, Cheney, and Swiss banks and put it in the pockets of walmart shoppers?

Geez.

Even people on wall street are admitting this is partly the Obama-PELOSI-REID panic because they know he is going to absolutely kill any jobs growth with capital gains tax increase, income tax increases, etc.

Even Marie Bartiromo admitted this in an interview that the world markets are partly paniced over having a self admitted marxist in the WH with Pelosi and Reid running the congress and Senate.

ZERO has never even read an economics book, let alone have a real job, run a business, or done anything ever in his life regarding private enterprise.

The middle class has been shrinking because of the tax burden already on people.  Between FICA, Income Tax, sales tax, real estate tax, energy tax, etc, everyone is getting the slammed. 

TAXES are killing this economy.   

[Soul Crusher]

Considering that Big Oil gets subsidized (read hand out) from the People to the tune of around $55 billion a year, I'd say getting some of that back is a matter of fairness especially in light of the fact that Big Oil has set records for profits.

Why do the most profitable companies in history still need tax payer subsidies?  They don't.

The marxists like yourself on this board who have NEVER run a business have no clue about economics. 

When you take more money away from people who do have "it" they stop spending.  On what?

1.  Landscapers.
2.  Home improvements.
3.  Boats,
4.  Vacations
5.  Restuarants

Who do you think owns all those small businesses?  Middle class people who rely on rich people to spend their money to stay in business you ignorant fool.

Assuming you do have a real job, which I doubt, why dont you go ask your boss if him or her being taxed more is going to result in you getting a raise a pink slip?

 
 

[shootfighter1]

Its not just income taxes.  Many taxes will increase.  Sales tax just increased in our area...again.

I feel we give too much of our money to the gov, who wastes a large portion of it...be it on Iraq, inefficient programs, $150,000 clothing allotments, whatever...there is just too much waste to justify any increase in spending.  We must hold gov accountable first. 

There are many reasons the middle class has shrunk, its not just because of federal income tax rates.

[shootfighter1]

Decker, I agree.   Those are the kinds of things gov should look at more closely.  Stop subsidizing companies that don't need it.  Stop rewarding non-compete contracts for work (like Haliburton).  I am against corporate greed...but I am also against excessive taxation.  I don't see the far left stopping at incomes of $250,000 and above (which in many areas is still upper middle class).  Also, how long have these people made $250,000?  Did they go to school for 10+ yrs with little or no income, sacrifice, come out with $100,000 of school loans with interest?  Why penalyze them even more than our graduated tax policy already does?  Why, because you don't think it will affect you?  Many of these people become future employers, philanthropists, and spend $ that makes the economy grow.  True, we don't want tons of millionaires but $250,000 for a family is hardly that....and Obama wants to take 40% of those income earnings (which does not include state and local taxes)?

The far left philosophy is to increase overall taxation so the gov can do more and control more.  The gov is wasteful...I want it to do less and do it more efficiently.

[Soul Crusher]

Its not just income taxes.  Many taxes will increase.  Sales tax just increased in our area...again.

I feel we give too much of our money to the gov, who wastes a large portion of it...be it on Iraq, inefficient programs, $150,000 clothing allotments, whatever...there is just too much waste to justify any increase in spending.  We must hold gov accountable first. 

There are many reasons the middle class has shrunk, its not just because of federal income tax rates.

The average person spends probably 40% of his income on taxes of all sorts.  Its really a crime how much the govt steals from its citizens.

[Decker]

The marxists like yourself on this board who have NEVER run a business have no clue about economics. 

When you take more money away from people who do have "it" they stop spending.  On what?

1.  Landscapers.
2.  Home improvements.
3.  Boats,
4.  Vacations
5.  Restuarants

Who do you think owns all those small businesses?  Middle class people who rely on rich people to spend their money to stay in business you ignorant fool.

Assuming you do have a real job, which I doubt, why dont you go ask your boss if him or her being taxed more is going to result in you getting a raise a pink slip?
 

Once Obama assumes control of the government, you will bow down before the collective might of the Proletariat embodied in our new Socialist Government and you shall join them in sharing the wealth of this country each according to his need!

Workers of the world Unite....that means you too 3333386!

[Soul Crusher]

Once Obama assumes control of the government, you will bow down before the collective might of the Proletariat embodied in our new Socialist Government and you shall join them in sharing the wealth of this country each according to his need!

Workers of the world Unite....that means you too 3333386!

Not without a hail of bullets. 

[Decker]

Decker, I agree.   Those are the kinds of things gov should look at more closely.  Stop subsidizing companies that don't need it.  Stop rewarding contracts for work (like Haliburton).  I am against corporate greed...but I am also against excessive taxation.

I hate taxes as much as the next guy.  Excessive taxation is a bad thing.  In our debates on this board, setting out appropriate marginal income tax rates, sales tax rates etc. seems like a decent idea.

The idea that a gov. imposes taxes where the money is makes sense.  Trying to squeeze 23% tax from a family earning 25,000 a year makes no sense to me.

There is a national interest in the oil companies being successful.  That's where I agree with you.  Big Oil has been way too successful to merit tax payer subsidies.

[Decker]

Not without a hail of bullets. 

Son, suicide is not the answer.

[shootfighter1]

hahaha.

[Hedgehog]

Considering that Big Oil gets subsidized (read hand out) from the People to the tune of around $55 billion a year, I'd say getting some of that back is a matter of fairness especially in light of the fact that Big Oil has set records for profits.

Why do the most profitable companies in history still need tax payer subsidies?  They don't.

My point was simply that the McCain camp is making a mistake if they think the swing voters considers redistribution as something bad.

Swing voters are likely to see redistribution as something positive, a way to get money back from the big greedy corps to the middle class. And if McCain opposes it, they will vote for the other fellow.

McCain needs to explain in detail why it is better to lower taxes for everybody (the argument is usually that it will stimulate the economy and create room for investments).

But he ain't doing that. Instead he's and Palin are talking about Obama's issues.

They're letting a junior senator from Illinois setting and owning the agenda.
Amazing.
Have to say that McCain seems a bit out of touch. :-/ 

[Soul Crusher]

My point was simply that the McCain camp is making a mistake if they think the swing voters considers redistribution as something bad.

Swing voters are likely to see redistribution as something positive, a way to get money back from the big greedy corps to the middle class. And if McCain opposes it, they will vote for the other fellow.

McCain needs to explain in detail why it is better to lower taxes for everybody (the argument is usually that it will stimulate the economy and create room for investments).

But he ain't doing that. Instead he's and Palin are talking about Obama's issues.

They're letting a junior senator from Illinois setting and owning the agenda.
Amazing.
Have to say that McCain seems a bit out of touch. :-/ 

When you add up the overall tax burden on everyone, its too much.  WAY TOO MUCH!!!!!!!!!!

[IFBBwannaB]

1.To all of you that say that it's fair and they shouldn't cry about more taxes...STFU! There is nothing ethical about increasing taxes to people that make more money, money comes from hard work, this isn't tax on your casino winnings!
And giving it to welfare and other BS is even less ethical.

2.The government doesn't lack money, it need to spend it more wisely, and that is exactly what WON'T happen with Obama! He want to take more and spend more! He said he got tons of new plans to spend lots of money on them...no amount of taxation can save from that thinking!

3.The government job isn't to even out and take Exxon money and give it to crack head Frank for him to buy more shit.

4.Business's pay less taxes because they have MUCH MUCH larger risk, they help the goverment in providing supporting infrastructure , they create jobs and they can always move to some place that will charge them less.
So killing big business is not the way to go, that's a sure way to ensure that no new infrastructure like better telecommunications will be built since there will be no money in it! No new oil rigs to supply demand and more similar issues.


The solutions is to have SMARTER spending, to prevent LOOPHOLES and tax FRAUDS (and other types of frauds) and to help defend the consumer from the overwhelming power of big corporations, the rest will be dealt by the market.