Say HELLO to the Freedom of Choice Act under a Pres. Obama

[Desolate]

"If one of my daughters makes a mistake, I don't want her saddled with a baby!" - B. Hussein Obama            

[y19mike77]

"If one of my daughters makes a mistake, I don't want her saddled with a baby!" - B. Hussein Obama            

Perfect example of the liberal mindset.

Dont take the responsibility for your mistakes.

[loco]

Perfect example of the liberal mindset.

Dont take the responsibility for your mistakes.

"saddled" with a baby?  I thought he said "punished" with a baby.

[Colossus_500]

Agree, which is why people don't actually want to step up to the plate and adopt these kids, which is why at last 1/2 million languish in the USA alone.

It's so much easier to talk the talk, wave a few flags, attend a rally - then actual do something which truly helps - raise a kid, donate money, volunteer at the homes etc. Reality is way different from talking the talk.

I agree with this sentiment, CQ.  We need a major overhaul of our adoptive system.  It would be nice to see the government get out of the way and allow the faith-based agencies to take the lead.  We should not have to go to China, Romania, Africa, or Thailand to adopt a child.  There are plenty of orphans right here in our own country. 

[Colossus_500]

"saddled" with a baby?  I thought he said "punished" with a baby.

Yeah, the exact verbiage is "PUNISHED". 

[Colossus_500]

Abortion Facts

Abortion is the medically induced, premature death of a pre-born baby in the womb. There are several methods used:

# Suction Aspiration
The method of abortion most commonly used in first trimester abortions. A powerful vacuum suction tube is put into the dilated uterus. The suction tears the soft baby apart and removes it from the uterus.

# Dilation and Curettage (D&C)
The dilation of the cervix which permits the insertion of a sharp surgical instrument will be used to dismember the baby's developing body.

# Dilatation and Evacuation (D&E)Used after 12 weeks, this method is identical to the D&C method except that forceps are used to twist and tear away the body that now has calcified bones.

# Salt Poisoning (Saline Injection)
Used after 16 weeks. A long needle is inserted into the mothers abdomen into the baby's sac. The baby breathes in swallowing the deadly toxin and is poisoned. The mother delivers a dead or dying baby.

# Prostaglandin
Hormones, developed by the Upjohn Pharmaceutical Co., are injected into the amniotic sac to induce contractions. In an article about this method, one of the complications listed was 'live birth'.

# Hysterectomy
Similar to a Cesarean Section, this method employed by abortionists almost always results in a live birth. The baby is left to die by neglect or direct art.

# Dilatation and Extraction (D&X)
By pulling on the baby's legs with forceps, the legs arc delivered, followed by the torso, arms and shoulders. The baby's head 'usually' remains inside the uterus. Using blunt-tipped surgical scissors, the baby's skull is pierced where a suction catheter is inserted to extract the 'skull contents.' Fetal brains and organs are used for fetal 'tissue' experimentation.

[big L dawg]

I agree with this sentiment, CQ.  We need a major overhaul of our adoptive system.  It would be nice to see the government get out of the way and allow the faith-based agencies to take the lead.  We should not have to go to China, Romania, Africa, or Thailand to adopt a child.  There are plenty of orphans right here in our own country. 

you want government to let the church agencies regulate adoption....?wow!

[Colossus_500]

Gruesome. 

But you know what?  I don't it's any more gruesome than a second trimester abortion, which involves dismembering the baby.  

Beach, here you go, Mang.  University of Wisconsin is trying to do 2nd trimester abortions under the radar, but they got busted:

[/b]Univ. of Wis. Hospitals secret plan to perform second-trimester abortions unveiled[/b]

ADF attorneys send letter asking for halt to program that threatens religious conscience rights, may violate funding restrictions

MADISON, Wis. — Attorneys with the Alliance Defense Fund sent a letter to University of Wisconsin Hospitals and Clinics Tuesday, asking that the institution refrain from implementing its secret and potentially illegal plans to perform second-trimester abortions in a jointly-operated clinic. The plan would likely compel unwilling employees to aid or participate in dismembering preborn babies, which would violate their religious conscience rights and may constitute an unlawful state funding of abortion.

“Christians and other pro-life medical students and staff should be allowed to abide by their beliefs,” said ADF Legal Counsel Matt Bowman. “Pro-life employees shouldn’t be forced to violate their conscience by participating in the killing of preborn, developed babies. The university’s plan is morally and legally flawed and should be abandoned.”

The UWHC’s plan would create a full-service second-trimester abortion practice at the Madison Surgery Center, a joint venture of UWHC, UW Medical Foundation, and Meriter Hospital. University of Wisconsin medical residents are expected to train and take part in the killing of the second-trimester babies. In recent years, UWHC researchers have experimented on almost fully-formed body parts obtained from second-trimester abortions performed nearby, and now all of those abortions would be performed in UWHC’s joint venture. The plan would also include the abortion of disabled babies that already occurs at Meriter Hospital.

The letter from ADF attorneys to UWHC President and CEO Donna Katen-Bahensky, as well as to the presidents of Meriter and the UW Medical Foundation, states that penalties against any employee who refuses to recommend, aid, or perform abortions based on religious or moral objections is a blatant violation of state and federal law. It also reminds university leadership of the fact that “no state or federal funds from various sources may be used for a program that…provides, encourages, or refers for abortions” and that ADF is prepared to take decisive legal action if UWHC takes any negative action against its pro-life employees.

[Dos Equis]

Beach, here you go, Mang.  University of Wisconsin is trying to do 2nd trimester abortions under the radar, but they got busted:

[/b]Univ. of Wis. Hospitals secret plan to perform second-trimester abortions unveiled[/b]

ADF attorneys send letter asking for halt to program that threatens religious conscience rights, may violate funding restrictions

MADISON, Wis. — Attorneys with the Alliance Defense Fund sent a letter to University of Wisconsin Hospitals and Clinics Tuesday, asking that the institution refrain from implementing its secret and potentially illegal plans to perform second-trimester abortions in a jointly-operated clinic. The plan would likely compel unwilling employees to aid or participate in dismembering preborn babies, which would violate their religious conscience rights and may constitute an unlawful state funding of abortion.

“Christians and other pro-life medical students and staff should be allowed to abide by their beliefs,” said ADF Legal Counsel Matt Bowman. “Pro-life employees shouldn’t be forced to violate their conscience by participating in the killing of preborn, developed babies. The university’s plan is morally and legally flawed and should be abandoned.”

The UWHC’s plan would create a full-service second-trimester abortion practice at the Madison Surgery Center, a joint venture of UWHC, UW Medical Foundation, and Meriter Hospital. University of Wisconsin medical residents are expected to train and take part in the killing of the second-trimester babies. In recent years, UWHC researchers have experimented on almost fully-formed body parts obtained from second-trimester abortions performed nearby, and now all of those abortions would be performed in UWHC’s joint venture. The plan would also include the abortion of disabled babies that already occurs at Meriter Hospital.

The letter from ADF attorneys to UWHC President and CEO Donna Katen-Bahensky, as well as to the presidents of Meriter and the UW Medical Foundation, states that penalties against any employee who refuses to recommend, aid, or perform abortions based on religious or moral objections is a blatant violation of state and federal law. It also reminds university leadership of the fact that “no state or federal funds from various sources may be used for a program that…provides, encourages, or refers for abortions” and that ADF is prepared to take decisive legal action if UWHC takes any negative action against its pro-life employees.

Hey where you been mang?  Welcome back. 

This is the kind of thing that will be permitted if Congress passes and Obama signs the Freedom of Choice Act.