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Re: Coach how will you feel when Obama wins?
« Reply #75 on: November 01, 2008, 07:59:31 PM »
It's still state sponsored murder.



It's a state sponsored killing.  Murder is an unlawful killing.  Executions aren't unlawful. 

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Re: Coach how will you feel when Obama wins?
« Reply #76 on: November 01, 2008, 08:03:47 PM »
It's a state sponsored killing.  Murder is an unlawful killing.  Executions aren't unlawful. 

Anyway you look at it we are allowing our government to kill it's own citizens.

You're okay with that. I'm not. We'll just agree to disagree.


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Re: Coach how will you feel when Obama wins?
« Reply #77 on: November 01, 2008, 08:10:44 PM »
Anyway you look at it we are allowing our government to kill it's own citizens.

You're okay with that. I'm not. We'll just agree to disagree.



I know we disagree on whether the government should execute people.  No biggie.  Not all states agree on the subject.  We don't have the death penalty in Hawaii.  I was talking about characterizing executions as murder. 

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Re: Coach how will you feel when Obama wins?
« Reply #78 on: November 01, 2008, 09:31:01 PM »
I know we disagree on whether the government should execute people.  No biggie.  Not all states agree on the subject.  We don't have the death penalty in Hawaii.  I was talking about characterizing executions as murder. 

I thought that is what the disagreement was.  :-\

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Re: Coach how will you feel when Obama wins?
« Reply #79 on: November 01, 2008, 10:21:23 PM »
I thought that is what the disagreement was.  :-\

We were actually discussing two issues:  whether the government should execute people and whether executions are murder.  The last several exchanges were just about whether execution is murder.   

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Re: Coach how will you feel when Obama wins?
« Reply #80 on: November 02, 2008, 06:44:45 AM »
I know we disagree on whether the government should execute people.  No biggie.  Not all states agree on the subject.  We don't have the death penalty in Hawaii.  I was talking about characterizing executions as murder. 

Ever seen a legal death cert for an executed inmate? Ever seen what your gov states as official cause of death ;)

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Re: Coach how will you feel when Obama wins?
« Reply #81 on: November 02, 2008, 07:28:13 AM »
All good points, SM, but if we're going to look at the payroll tax (which everyone who works pays regardless of income) I'd look at revamping the social security program. Freedom is about choices, both good and bad, if people want to put the money they pay into the system in something like savings bonds then that should be their choice. IMO, the government has done a poor job of taking care of a program that is supposed to supplement one's retirement account. This way I wouldn't mind paying it so much if I knew I had more control over it. The way things are going now I'm going to get very little (if any at all) of what I've paid in and I'll be lucky if I live long enough to even collect it.

I don't think there is any problem with social security with one huge exception being the fact that the Bush and other presidents keep raiding the funds to fill in gaps in their budgets
25% of Bush's 2008 Budget comes from $$$$ borrowed from the Social Security Trust Fund.  http://useconomy.about.com/b/2007/02/11/fy-2008-budget-borrows-674-billion-from-social-security.htm

Regarding the overall effectiveness of the program Krugman explains it better than I ever could: http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/03/28/about-the-social-security-trust-fund/

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Re: Coach how will you feel when Obama wins?
« Reply #82 on: November 02, 2008, 07:34:39 AM »
I don't think there is any problem with social security with one huge exception being the fact that the Bush and other presidents keep raiding the funds to fill in gaps in their budgets
25% of Bush's 2008 Budget comes from $$$$ borrowed from the Social Security Trust Fund.  http://useconomy.about.com/b/2007/02/11/fy-2008-budget-borrows-674-billion-from-social-security.htm

Regarding the overall effectiveness of the program Krugman explains it better than I ever could: http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/03/28/about-the-social-security-trust-fund/

Interesting article.... but I still lack faith in our politicians.


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Re: Coach how will you feel when Obama wins?
« Reply #83 on: November 02, 2008, 07:36:39 AM »
Interesting article.... but I still lack faith in our politicians.

I'm with you on that.

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Re: Coach how will you feel when Obama wins?
« Reply #84 on: November 02, 2008, 10:18:10 AM »
Ever seen a legal death cert for an executed inmate? Ever seen what your gov states as official cause of death ;)

No, but if you look the rest of the thread, you'll see my explanation of how homicide is not necessarily synonymous with murder. 

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Re: Coach how will you feel when Obama wins?
« Reply #85 on: November 02, 2008, 10:50:23 AM »
I have many relatives that are racist, they dance around shit when im around.  Coach does the same shit, he hates blacks, hates mexicans, think they are all freeloaders and scum and its pretty obvious.  He hates the fact a Black man will be president.  he discredits the fact Obama worked his ass off to get where he was, built up tons of student loans, went to the best schools not because he was like the rest in the Ivy league, but because he was smarter than the rest. He could have went to NYC and became a millionaire right away practicing law instead he went to work for the community.  Coach discredits him for this... if Obama was WHITE, coach would go on and on how hard he worked for it.   But becasue hes Black coach cant stand it, so he trashes him in every way possible EXCEPT his race, because he doesn't have the balls to.  But its pretty damn obvious...

Coach is scum
he hates mexicans, does he hate himself too?