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Re: Proof Women Love Muscle Over Ugliness
« Reply #50 on: October 30, 2008, 12:44:10 PM »
Yeah I love these stupid ass debates.  I'm sure Will Smith has never used steroids?  Please that fools body and muscle fluctuates every year.  He's skinny as hell now.  He was pretty damn big for his height in the boxing movie.  He was ripped and muscular in I am Legend.  Maybe he used maybe he didn't.  But would it really fucking surprise you if these actors did use?  I mean dropping a line of coke at a club on the weekend is like taking a shit for them.  They will do anything to get a role and keep a role.  steroids are nothing for them to take.  As for Craig I think he could most definitely attain his previous 007 physique without steroids BUT NO FUCKING WAY IN 12 weeks.  You guys think that you can go from average guy to fitness model naturally in 12 weeks are idiots and have been watching too many infomercials at night.  Plus these guys are busy as hell.  You think they are eating 6 times a day and sleeping 12 hours a day etc.  No most of them have a little "help".  Just like that guy from 300.  Yes the pics were enhanced but still the guy is a fucking skinny average guy now in his movies.  
yeah that guy in 300 was FUCCKING HUGE. ::) ;D

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Re: Proof Women Love Muscle Over Ugliness
« Reply #51 on: October 30, 2008, 12:45:54 PM »
let's say he took some pills and trained hard and ate right...he doesn't look like he is juicing but i bet actors use some stuff to get in shape in the shortest time

3/4 of all guys juicing in the gym don't "look like" they are on steroids.  Bottom line is anyone will take anything to look a certain way.  THis is the epitome of Hollywood. 

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Re: Proof Women Love Muscle Over Ugliness
« Reply #52 on: October 30, 2008, 12:46:40 PM »
How did some of you get brainwashed into believing building a decent body can't be done without steroids?

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« Reply #53 on: October 30, 2008, 12:48:12 PM »
Sigh.  Why are people on this board so clueless.  ???  Pumping up and cycling for a movie role is  par for the course in Hollywood.  Arnold, Sly, Will Smith, Craig, LL Cool J, and many others have done it... doing a cycle does not have to mean gaining 100lbs of muscle.  Those of you who think Craig was natural for Casino Royal are deep in denial.

Those are the easier ones to spot......but What about Charlie Sheen,Cameron Diaz,Demi Moore,B.Stiller Eddie Murphy or even Drew Barrymore and  late Anna nicole!!!?

Yes!! youll be amazed to find out who has been on the juice in that 'multi million dollar "neighborhood"

Getbiggers think that u need to look like Arnold or the Rock to be on the sauce....


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Re: Proof Women Love Muscle Over Ugliness
« Reply #54 on: October 30, 2008, 12:49:28 PM »
yeah that guy in 300 was FUCCKING HUGE. ::) ;D

Not saying he was huge.  Just saying there is a huge difference between his physique then and normally.  Plus you're missing the point tubby.......not everyone who uses steroids are looking for mass and looking to get huge at all costs.  This whole he doesn't "look" like a juicer mentality is foolishness.  Lots of guys don't look like a juicer but definitely juice.  

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Re: Proof Women Love Muscle Over Ugliness
« Reply #55 on: October 30, 2008, 12:51:42 PM »
How did some of you get brainwashed into believing building a decent body can't be done without steroids?

Not saying you can't build a decent body without drugs.  However, it takes a helluva lot longer than 12 weeks.  Plus we are talking Hollywood elite.  Do you honestly think they are above taking the easy way out?  Come on.  Don't be so naive.  Unless you have the genetics of Ronnie Coleman it takes a good while to build a solid physique naturally.  Hell everyone knows that after you've been training for a long time gaining a couple pounds of lean mass a year is great progress.  Some of these guys are putting on 15 lbs of muscle in a matter of months. 

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Re: Proof Women Love Muscle Over Ugliness
« Reply #56 on: October 30, 2008, 12:54:54 PM »
You guys think that you can go from average guy to fitness model naturally in 12 weeks are idiots  
no offense man, but you really think that someone can't make dramatic changes in 12 weeks without some kind of chemical assistance? that's 3 months for Christ's sake! from my own previous experience, i was able to put on 12 pounds in about 6 weeks and my bodyfat remained unchanged, and another time i went from 12% bodyfat to 7.5% bodyfat in 2 weeks, completely drug-free 8)

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« Reply #57 on: October 30, 2008, 12:57:42 PM »
yeah, anyone can make decent results, naturally, in 12 weeks

you have to be consistent and make sure that your nutrition, training and rest correlate with your goals but it is very possible

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« Reply #58 on: October 30, 2008, 12:59:52 PM »
Not saying you can't build a decent body without drugs.  However, it takes a helluva lot longer than 12 weeks.  Plus we are talking Hollywood elite.  Do you honestly think they are above taking the easy way out?  Come on.  Don't be so naive.  Unless you have the genetics of Ronnie Coleman it takes a good while to build a solid physique naturally.  Hell everyone knows that after you've been training for a long time gaining a couple pounds of lean mass a year is great progress.  Some of these guys are putting on 15 lbs of muscle in a matter of months. 

Exactly!   I take it back... getbiggers who can't see these Hollywood guys are on the juice aren't in denial; they are just stupid.  :'(

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Re: Proof Women Love Muscle Over Ugliness
« Reply #59 on: October 30, 2008, 01:15:23 PM »
we all know that its what u project that counts not how goodlooking u r. till a certain degree.

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« Reply #60 on: October 30, 2008, 01:16:11 PM »
we all know that its what u project that counts not how goodlooking u r. till a certain degree.

only ugly people say that

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Re: Proof Women Love Muscle Over Ugliness
« Reply #61 on: October 30, 2008, 01:17:34 PM »
no offense man, but you really think that someone can't make dramatic changes in 12 weeks without some kind of chemical assistance? that's 3 months for Christ's sake! from my own previous experience, i was able to put on 12 pounds in about 6 weeks and my bodyfat remained unchanged, and another time i went from 12% bodyfat to 7.5% bodyfat in 2 weeks, completely drug-free 8)

Dude re read my posts.  I said to go from an average joe to fitness model NATURALLY in 12 weeks is a stretch.  Hardly attainable by the genetically average individual.  Maybe a newbie 18 year old but not a grown ass old man like Craig.  With drugs of course it's possible.  But naturally?  Highly unlikely.  My fucking ass you went from 12% bf to 7.5% in 2 weeks drug free.  You are fucking full of shit.  First off 12% is pretty low already, to drop another 4.5% in 2 weeks naturally?  You need to learn how to take BF measurements.  

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Re: Proof Women Love Muscle Over Ugliness
« Reply #62 on: October 30, 2008, 01:20:05 PM »
Dude re read my posts.  I said to go from an average joe to fitness model NATURALLY in 12 weeks is a stretch.  

agreed

12 weeks is a "good results" period
I would say that the total transformation is complete between 16-24 weeks

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Re: Proof Women Love Muscle Over Ugliness
« Reply #63 on: October 30, 2008, 01:21:28 PM »
yeah, anyone can make decent results, naturally, in 12 weeks

you have to be consistent and make sure that your nutrition, training and rest correlate with your goals but it is very possible

And just what does "decent" results mean?  5 lbs of muscle while dropping a few % of bodyfat?  Adding 15lbs of muscle and dropping 5% bf?  Any moron can say anyone can make decent results in 12 weeks naturally.  What the does that mean?  Absolutely nothing!  You take a skinny ectomorph and a mesomorph and you'll see completely different results after 12 weeks.  

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« Reply #64 on: October 30, 2008, 01:25:14 PM »
agreed

12 weeks is a "good results" period
I would say that the total transformation is complete between 16-24 weeks

LMAO dude you say it again.  Good results?  What the fuck does that mean?  Awesome, mesmorizing, average, amazing, good, great, excellent.  WTF?  These words mean nothing.  Are you saying good results is 5 lbs of muscle in a month?  20lbs over 3 months?  Those are steroid gains not natural gains.  Like I said before for any of you that have trained naturally for any significant amount of years the muscle gains come to a grinding halt and you're lucky to gain a couple lbs of solid muscle a year.  Some of you have no fucking clue what it's like or what it takes to train naturally. 

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Re: Proof Women Love Muscle Over Ugliness
« Reply #65 on: October 30, 2008, 01:26:54 PM »
LMAO dude you say it again.  Good results?  What the fuck does that mean?  Awesome, mesmorizing, average, amazing, good, great, excellent.  WTF?  These words mean nothing.  Are you saying good results is 5 lbs of muscle in a month?  20lbs over 3 months?  Those are steroid gains not natural gains.  Like I said before for any of you that have trained naturally for any significant amount of years the muscle gains come to a grinding halt and you're lucky to gain a couple lbs of solid muscle a year.  Some of you have no fucking clue what it's like or what it takes to train naturally. 

honestly, i don't know

I was born with this body so I never had to go through any transformation

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Re: Proof Women Love Muscle Over Ugliness
« Reply #66 on: October 30, 2008, 01:29:31 PM »
honestly, i don't know

I was born with this body so I never had to go through any transformation

Well good for you.  You're lucky.  Most guys have to bust their ass off in the gym for years on end to achieve a muscular physique.  Genetics plays the biggest damn role in the ability to put on muscle.  And genetics vary A LOT among human beings. 

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Re: Proof Women Love Muscle Over Ugliness
« Reply #67 on: October 30, 2008, 01:39:22 PM »
My fucking ass you went from 12% bf to 7.5% in 2 weeks drug free.  You are fucking full of shit.  First off 12% is pretty low already, to drop another 4.5% in 2 weeks naturally?  You need to learn how to take BF measurements.  
no need to get hostile man. by the way, the fella that took my bodyfat measurements was none other than Mr. JM Blakely 8) type his name into google, and you'll see he's a former bench press champ who benched over 700 pounds, in fact he's got an exercise named after him, the "JM Press", and coincidently he has a masters degree in exercise science from The Ohio State University, so he knows what he's doing ;)

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Re: Proof Women Love Muscle Over Ugliness
« Reply #68 on: October 30, 2008, 01:40:37 PM »
no need to get hostile man. by the way, the fella that took my bodyfat measurements was none other than Mr. JM Blakely 8) type his name into google, and you'll see he's a former bench press champ who benched over 700 pounds, in fact he's got an exercise named after him, the "JM Press", and coincidently he has a masters degree in exercise science from The Ohio State University, so he knows what he's doing ;)

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Re: Proof Women Love Muscle Over Ugliness
« Reply #69 on: October 30, 2008, 01:40:57 PM »
Dude re read my posts.  I said to go from an average joe to fitness model NATURALLY in 12 weeks is a stretch.  Hardly attainable by the genetically average individual.  Maybe a newbie 18 year old but not a grown ass old man like Craig.  With drugs of course it's possible.  But naturally?  Highly unlikely.  My fucking ass you went from 12% bf to 7.5% in 2 weeks drug free.  You are fucking full of shit.  First off 12% is pretty low already, to drop another 4.5% in 2 weeks naturally?  You need to learn how to take BF measurements.  
hahahahaa, 4.5% bf loss in 2 weeks, maybe he had liposuction on his whole body. :D

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Re: Proof Women Love Muscle Over Ugliness
« Reply #70 on: October 30, 2008, 01:44:29 PM »
no need to get hostile man. by the way, the fella that took my bodyfat measurements was none other than Mr. JM Blakely 8) type his name into google, and you'll see he's a former bench press champ who benched over 700 pounds, in fact he's got an exercise named after him, the "JM Press", and coincidently he has a masters degree in exercise science from The Ohio State University, so he knows what he's doing ;)


Hostile?  Dude you just said you went from 12% bf to 7.5% in 2 weeks without any chemical assistance.  LMAO!  I'm hostile because you're insulting my intelligence that I would actually believe something like that.  And I don't care what JM Blakely knows or what credentials and lifts he has.....can he change the rules of human physiology?  LOL. 

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Re: Proof Women Love Muscle Over Ugliness
« Reply #71 on: October 30, 2008, 01:54:10 PM »
EPIC name dropping

Hostile?  Dude you just said you went from 12% bf to 7.5% in 2 weeks without any chemical assistance.  LMAO!  I'm hostile because you're insulting my intelligence that I would actually believe something like that.  And I don't care what JM Blakely knows or what credentials and lifts he has.....can he change the rules of human physiology?  LOL. 
ok, i've got a question for you regarding human physiology. what, in your opinion is the maximum amount of fat one can lose over a 1 week period? i'm no "mass monster" and during that 2 week period i went from 167 to 158 and lost 8 pounds of bodyfat, so that's 4 pounds of fat a week, do you believe it's possible?

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Re: Proof Women Love Muscle Over Ugliness
« Reply #72 on: October 30, 2008, 01:55:18 PM »
Sigh.  Why are people on this board so clueless.  ???  Pumping up and cycling for a movie role is  par for the course in Hollywood.  Arnold, Sly, Will Smith, Craig, LL Cool J, and many others have done it... doing a cycle does not have to mean gaining 100lbs of muscle.  Those of you who think Craig was natural for Casino Royal are deep in denial.

It is obvious he is was on a cycle then for Bond. I could see it in that water scene.

Bay this is like the thread i started about the BBing.com teen of the week a few weeks ago. Clearly obvious he was using gear from how the muscle/skin tone looked but few believed me, all they could say was 'oh that's easily attainable naturally' which isn't the fucking point in the first place.

Anyone thinking he was natural in Bond needs to take up a sport where they know what's going on. I have seen and know that people can make great gains naturally (to the point where people on here would swear they are juicing) if they are committed and stick at it but i also can tell if someone is using.

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Re: Proof Women Love Muscle Over Ugliness
« Reply #73 on: October 30, 2008, 01:57:25 PM »
dj181,

how many sites was your BF% calculated from?

was it the 12 point caliper test?  I'm assuming it is

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Re: Proof Women Love Muscle Over Ugliness
« Reply #74 on: October 30, 2008, 01:59:12 PM »

Hostile?  Dude you just said you went from 12% bf to 7.5% in 2 weeks without any chemical assistance.  LMAO!  I'm hostile because you're insulting my intelligence that I would actually believe something like that.  And I don't care what JM Blakely knows or what credentials and lifts he has.....can he change the rules of human physiology?  LOL. 

MM i agree with everything you have written.