Author Topic: Hey Adonis explain this... (Read 1913 times)

you're the one that got caught spouting conservative propaganda based on a complete lie. don't take it out on us. michelle obama wasn't staying at the waldorf and the New York Post (who originally reported it) issued a retraction.

nice try.

akers1021 · « **Reply #9 on:** October 30, 2008, 06:21:12 PM »

Quote from: whateva on October 30, 2008, 06:15:36 PM

Next

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/829/

Point is the people that want a SOCIALIST in office are complete IDIOTS...

NEXT

Quote from: MisterMagoo on October 30, 2008, 06:18:54 PM

you're the one that got caught spouting conservative propaganda based on a complete lie. don't take it out on us. michelle obama wasn't staying at the waldorf and the New York Post (who originally reported it) issued a retraction.

nice try, however since I dont want to work I will still vote for Obama.

Fixed

CQ · « **Reply #10 on:** October 30, 2008, 06:34:45 PM »

Receipt is fake, thats a proven fact.

And uh, did the gov not just dish out like 700 billion. Epic socialism at it's finest.

These desperate posts that are non sensical are embarassing.

akers1021 · « **Reply #11 on:** October 30, 2008, 06:38:11 PM »

Quote from: CQ on October 30, 2008, 06:34:45 PM

Receipt is fake, thats a proven fact.

And uh, did the gov not just dish out like 700 billion. Epic socialism at it's finest.

These desperate posts that are non sensical are embarassing.

Well lets see....lets put a BLACK MUSLIM in charge of the country that has TERRORIST ties you dumb fuck and see what happens...

He won't make it HALF a term before he is impeeched..

CQ · « **Reply #12 on:** October 30, 2008, 06:51:19 PM »

Quote from: akers1021 on October 30, 2008, 06:38:11 PM

Well lets see....lets put a BLACK MUSLIM in charge of the country that has TERRORIST ties you dumb fuck and see what happens...

He won't make it HALF a term before he is impeeched..

Lovely, swearing profanely at me for no call. Glad I don't share your views, I would hate to share your manners as well.

And of course I would see nothing wrong with being black, and there isn't. Only problem anyone would have with that is if they are a racist of course

MisterMagoo · « **Reply #13 on:** October 30, 2008, 07:54:07 PM »

Quote from: akers1021 on October 30, 2008, 06:38:11 PM

i am a racist retard who will probably trip and fall on my way to the ballot because i tied my shoes together.

good point.

i'm not even going after your politics. you, sir, are simply dumb as a fucking mule and a stain upon the republican party.

MisterMagoo · « **Reply #14 on:** October 30, 2008, 07:55:15 PM »

Quote from: CQ on October 30, 2008, 06:51:19 PM

Lovely, swearing profanely at me for no call. Glad I don't share your views, I would hate to share your manners as well.

And of course I would see nothing wrong with being black, and there isn't. Only problem anyone would have with that is if they are a racist of course

colin powell says there's nothing wrong with being a muslim either, and he's right.

but to racist neanderthals like akers who vote based on nothing but primal instincts, actual policy matters less than "makin sure dat colored boy don't win."

CQ · « **Reply #15 on:** October 30, 2008, 08:00:41 PM »

Quote from: MisterMagoo on October 30, 2008, 07:55:15 PM

colin powell says there's nothing wrong with being a muslim either, and he's right.

but to racist neanderthals like akers who vote based on nothing but primal instincts, actual policy matters less than "makin sure dat colored boy don't win."

Very true, Powell's soldier story was excellent.

Despite the pathetic nature, it is sadly amusing that some generic people somehow feels they are superior to a magna cum laude Harvard lawyer who has raised 600+ million, drawn over a million people to hear him speak, got the dem nomination, is a self made multi millionaire and one of the most famous people in the world - but somehow some people who haven't achieved 10% of what he has think they are superior as they are a different colour. Madness $:-\$

Tapeworm · « **Reply #16 on:** October 30, 2008, 08:31:58 PM »

Quote from: CQ on October 30, 2008, 08:00:41 PM

Very true, Powell's soldier story was excellent.

Despite the pathetic nature, it is sadly amusing that some generic people somehow feels they are superior to a magna cum laude Harvard lawyer who has raised 600+ million, drawn over a million people to hear him speak, got the dem nomination, is a self made multi millionaire and one of the most famous people in the world - but somehow some people who haven't achieved 10% of what he has think they are superior as they are a different colour. Madness $:-\$

To be honest, I wonder if Obama hasn't achieved some of what he has because of his color. I don't know his history very well, but after getting beaten in Chicago for not being black enough, it seems like he (or his handlers) figured out that he's just black enough to appeal to blacks in a national campaign while not being so black he'll frighten white suburbia.

Ok ok, he's a clever guy, Harvard, etc. Maybe he'll turn out to be one of history's "great men" but he's probably as ready to sell his own grandma as any other bastard politician, whatever their skin color. The way he shitcanned his preacher's commencement address at the last minute was pretty cold and shows his willingness to take politically expedient steps that some people might see as ruthless, or at least extremely rude. Guess that's just politics tho.

He's got to be better than McSame tho. The repubs have flushed the country down the toilet imo and someone is going to have to reach in drag it back out before it passes the S-bend. Hope he's got gloves because he'll be inheriting a lot of shit. If McCain gets in, we're truly screwed.

CQ · « **Reply #17 on:** October 30, 2008, 08:45:17 PM »

Quote from: Tapeworm on October 30, 2008, 08:31:58 PM

To be honest, I wonder if Obama hasn't achieved some of what he has because of his color.

People always say this and I do not see how the colour of one skin, especially when it is a colour that draws racism, helps one achieve those things.

Test scores are marked, you get the results you get - so it could not have impacted him getting a Harvard degree with honours.

Numerous black folks have run for president spanning 30 years, this year Keyes was in too....why did they never draw large crowds or money? Is it really so simple as to stick a black person out and thousands will come and pour millions at them. Pretty ludicrous really.

I know his colour has impacted for sure, the feds say themself he has had the most death threat of any candidate in history, already 2 sets of arrests for racially based plots - which is unprecedented also of course. I hardly think having folks wanting to off you to a great extent is an "edge".

In my personal life the only thing my colour ever gave me was some grief, never gave me a break a yet. My parents much worse due to their age - I don't think sitting at the back of the bus, being barred from hospitals. not allowed to vote and all those things were really what one would call "being given an edge".

akers1021 · « **Reply #18 on:** October 31, 2008, 03:02:53 AM »

Quote from: MisterMagoo on October 30, 2008, 07:55:15 PM

colin powell says there's nothing wrong with being a muslim either, and he's right.

but to racist neanderthals like akers who vote based on nothing but primal instincts, actual policy matters less than "makin sure dat colored boy don't win."

I am THE FURTHEST from being racist that you will ever know my friend. I went to a High School that was 60% black. MY BEST LONGTIME FRIEND of 32 years is black, have dated 2 black women....try again.

My problem is Obama's socialist belief's. Things like it's ok to be poor and be lazy we will get EVERYONE else to pay your bills so you don't have to work. THis I have MAJOR problems with.

Is it ok for your children ( my son is 6) to watch how this unfolds and them turn out to be another lazy american living off the system.. NO is your answer.

So basically it's like this:

Lets all be lazy and live off the rich VOTE OBAMA
Lets all make our OWN MONEY and MAKE OUR OWN future and vote for MCCAIN.. pretty simple and no thinking required. Unless you just want to keep having kids and not work...

Thanks for playing..

Tapeworm · « **Reply #19 on:** October 31, 2008, 03:18:05 AM »

I watched an interesting program the other night that threw out a few theories about Obama's success. One which didn't seem too implausible was that he was marketable to white America because of his Harvard background and because he's half white, and that black America would support him on a national level when running against old white men. Black voters didn't support him in a local race in a predominantly black district in Chicago against a blacker guy who attacked Obama for not being black enough, lol, so race has been an issue in Obama's political career long before now and not just with whites. Anyway, I got the impression that Obama, while being a helluva clever guy, wasn't the architect of his own marketing campaign. It seems more like he was the right guy, in the right place (in his career), at the right time, and when he put himself forward he was scooped up by the people who make it happen.

I don't mean that he got this far just because he's black, but I think the candidate makers & money men decided he was a guy they could sell effectively, and possibly gain an edge with. No other black guy has gotten anywhere near this far and I don't believe it's from lack of drive or because Obama is uniquely intelligent. I think the campaign gatekeepers simply never chose to let a black guy in before, and I've got to wonder if it isn't because he's not very black.

All that should matter is the candidate's stance on issues, and for that I like Obama way more than McCain. I personally don't care what color his skin is, I just prefer what he has to say over McCain, but you can't deny that there are going to be a lot of votes cast for nothing more than racial reasons, as screwed up as that is. If McCain wins, that will be the only reason, because it sure as hell can't be because of his views, the performance of his party, or that doofus he chose as a running mate.

akers1021 · « **Reply #20 on:** October 31, 2008, 03:28:09 AM »

Quote from: Tapeworm on October 31, 2008, 03:18:05 AM

I watched an interesting program the other night that threw out a few theories about Obama's success. One which didn't seem too implausible was that he was marketable to white America because of his Harvard background and because he's half white, and that black America would support him on a national level when running against old white men. Black voters didn't support him in a local race in a predominantly black district in Chicago against a blacker guy who attacked Obama for not being black enough, lol, so race has been an issue in Obama's political career long before now and not just with whites. Anyway, I got the impression that Obama, while being a helluva clever guy, wasn't the architect of his own marketing campaign. It seems more like he was the right guy, in the right place (in his career), at the right time, and when he put himself forward he was scooped up by the people who make it happen.

I don't mean that he got this far just because he's black, but I think the candidate makers & money men decided he was a guy they could sell effectively, and possibly gain an edge with. No other black guy has gotten anywhere near this far and I don't believe it's from lack of drive or because Obama is uniquely intelligent. I think the campaign gatekeepers simply never chose to let a black guy in before, and I've got to wonder if it isn't because he's not very black.

All that should matter is the candidate's stance on issues, and for that I like Obama way more than McCain. I personally don't care what color his skin is, I just prefer what he has to say over McCain, but you can't deny that there are going to be a lot of votes cast for nothing more than racial reasons, as screwed up as that is. If McCain wins, that will be the only reason, because it sure as hell can't be because of his views, the performance of his party, or that doofus he chose as a running mate.

I do agree with you on Mccain being a little fruit loopy..Palin was a BAD choice for a VP. That will prolly end up costing him the election IMO...

I keep hearing Obama getting compared to Bill Clinton..If Bill Clinton was running I would be voting Democrat..I might have been split voting for Hillary, at least with her in office Bill would right next to her helping her with decisions.

I just cannot vote for a man with ties to some questionable people and thinks it's ok to be lazy...sorry.

Tapeworm · « **Reply #21 on:** October 31, 2008, 06:02:11 AM »

Quote from: akers1021 on October 31, 2008, 03:28:09 AM

I do agree with you on Mccain being a little fruit loopy..Palin was a BAD choice for a VP. That will prolly end up costing him the election IMO...

I keep hearing Obama getting compared to Bill Clinton..If Bill Clinton was running I would be voting Democrat..I might have been split voting for Hillary, at least with her in office Bill would right next to her helping her with decisions.

I just cannot vote for a man with ties to some questionable people and thinks it's ok to be lazy...sorry.

I don't want to get sidetracked from riling up CQ

but I think you're being sold a bill of goods, as they say. How is giving money to a poor person any different than giving money to rich people who keep fucking up their companies and need "government assistance" to bail them out? The main difference I see is that the rich have clever tax agents who funnel off millions upon millions for them so they get to remain rich no matter what.

Now don't give me any of that socialist nonsense about how bailouts are for the good of the country. In capitalism we let the bastard go down with the ship and let a better run company take its place. Or do we?

Nope. Seems like someone's getting bailed out every few years. Are the honchos ever poorer when their companies collapse or when they ask for your tax dollars for the company they ruined, or do they always end up richer than hell somehow? Funny how that works. It's capitalism for the masses and socialism for the favored few.

It blows my mind how people can get distracted by red herrings like evil welfare for the lazy. Meanwhile they're handing out hundreds of billions to 'bail out' a bunch of rich assholes who engineered a worldwide recession, and trillions to a war based on lies in some sandy shithole where America's finest are dying so that... you guessed it... rich people can get richer. No wonder there's no money left to provide no cost health care to someone working 3 jobs, or to increase the police presence where it's needed most, or to better fund schools that don't happen to be in a high income area. This is not the behavior of a government "for the people."

Seriously man, they just fearmonger and shout about shit that people will react strongly to, like lazy people on welfare, terrorism, or queer marriage, then get together in the cigar lounge and laugh at how easily we're led around by the nose.

That being said, I don't think Obama is any kind of saint. I figure that if he's risen to this level, he's a rotten sob just like the rest of them, but I really hope I'm wrong.

Cap · « **Reply #22 on:** October 31, 2008, 06:23:55 AM »

Quote from: CQ on October 30, 2008, 08:00:41 PM

Very true, Powell's soldier story was excellent.

Despite the pathetic nature, it is sadly amusing that some generic people somehow feels they are superior to a magna cum laude Harvard lawyer who has raised 600+ million, drawn over a million people to hear him speak, got the dem nomination, is a self made multi millionaire and one of the most famous people in the world - but somehow some people who haven't achieved 10% of what he has think they are superior as they are a different colour. Madness $:-\$

You do realize that a lot of these funds are untraceable and are likely coming from illegal sources. People are buying up prepaid cards to donate to Obama. Fishy to normal people but okay to his people.

Oh, and being a Black Muslim in this country has never been something to be proud of. They have always been hateful of white people and radical to boot. Add those ties and his terrorist ties, not to mention we still are not 100% on his citizenship....I'd say nobody should vote for him. Watching him is like watching the Manchurian Candidate. Like a freakin robot who can't work without a script. All these poor Dems and young stupid women need to realize this dude isn't Kennedy.

Oh ya....and bailing out our financial institutions to free up credit that is almost completely frozen right now (which was tied up not only by greedy companies but also dumbasses who thought they "deserved" to be in a home). You want a car loan, home loan, etc then you should be okay with the bail out. The problem is that everyone expects a rapid turn around.

tendonitis · « **Reply #23 on:** October 31, 2008, 06:25:13 AM »

If Obama were white he'd still be in the Illinois state senate. Well actually he wouldn't even be there because his district would never elect a white person. Any white person with his meager resume, radical associations, questionable background and utter lack of experience would never win the nomination for the Presidency, nor a senate seat. Obama is where he is for one reason, he's black, okay half-black. White guilt runs deep in America. The first time a black candidate comes along that can actually speak well, (with a teleprompter of course) and that doesn't have 13 illegitimate kids running around the white people get all excited because now they can finally show everyone we're really not the racists all the minorities scream we are. The best thing that ever happened to him was having his black father knock up his white mother, just like so many black men have been doing for years.

Black people who think Obama isn't where he is because he's black are simply fooling themselves once again.

Quote from: CQ on October 30, 2008, 08:45:17 PM

People always say this and I do not see how the colour of one skin, especially when it is a colour that draws racism, helps one achieve those things.

Test scores are marked, you get the results you get - so it could not have impacted him getting a Harvard degree with honours.

Numerous black folks have run for president spanning 30 years, this year Keyes was in too....why did they never draw large crowds or money? Is it really so simple as to stick a black person out and thousands will come and pour millions at them. Pretty ludicrous really.

I know his colour has impacted for sure, the feds say themself he has had the most death threat of any candidate in history, already 2 sets of arrests for racially based plots - which is unprecedented also of course. I hardly think having folks wanting to off you to a great extent is an "edge".

In my personal life the only thing my colour ever gave me was some grief, never gave me a break a yet. My parents much worse due to their age - I don't think sitting at the back of the bus, being barred from hospitals. not allowed to vote and all those things were really what one would call "being given an edge".

Cap · « **Reply #24 on:** October 31, 2008, 06:29:50 AM »

Quote from: tendonitis on October 31, 2008, 06:25:13 AM

If Obama were white he'd still be in the Illinois state senate. Well actually he wouldn't even be there because his district would never elect a white person. Any white person with his meager resume, radical associations, questionable background and utter lack of experience would never win the nomination for the Presidency, nor a senate seat. Obama is where he is for one reason, he's black, okay half-black. White guilt runs deep in America. The first time a black candidate comes along that can actually speak well, (with a teleprompter of course) and that doesn't have 13 illegitimate kids running around the white people get all excited because now they can finally show everyone we're really not the racists all the minorities scream we are. The best thing that ever happened to him was having his black father knock up his white mother, just like so many black men have been doing for years.

Black people who think Obama isn't where he is because he's black are simply fooling themselves once again.

Quoted for truth.

People are afraid to vote a Catholic into office for fear that the Pope will dictate policy but they are not afraid of a Black Muslim with ties to terrorists. Gotta love guilt for something nobody alive today took part in. Oh brother.