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Reporters Kicked Off Of Obama's Plane
« on: October 31, 2008, 07:07:31 AM »
PURGE: SKEPTICAL REPORTERS TOSSED OFF OBAMA PLANE
Fri Oct 31 2008 08:39:55 ET

NY POST, DALLAS MORNING NEWS, WASHINGTON TIMES TOLD TO GET OUT... ALL 3 ENDORSED MCCAIN

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The Obama campaign has decided to heave out three newspapers from its plane for the final days of its blitz across battleground states -- and all three endorsed Sen. John McCain for president!

The NY POST, WASHINGTON TIMES and DALLAS MORNING NEWS have all been told to move out by Sunday to make room for network bigwigs -- and possibly for the inclusion of reporters from two black magazines, ESSENCE and JET, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned.

Despite pleas from top editors of the three newspapers that have covered the campaign for months at extraordinary cost, the Obama campaign says their reporters -- and possibly others -- will have to vacate their coveted seats so more power players can document the final days of Sen. Barack Obama's historic campaign to become the first black American president.

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Some told the DRUDGE REPORT that the reporters are being ousted to bring on documentary film-makers to record the final days; others expect to see on board more sympathetic members of the media, including the NY TIMES' Maureen Dowd, who once complained that she was barred from McCain's Straight Talk Express airplane.

After a week of quiet but desperate behind-the-scenes negotiations, the reporters of the three papers heard last night that they were definitely off for the final swing. They are already planning how to cover the final days by flying commercial or driving from event to event.


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Re: Reporters Kicked Off Of Obama's Plane
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2008, 07:09:31 AM »
October 21, 2008

Joe Klein gets kicked off McCain campaign plane
Joe Klein has been banned from the McCain and Palin planes. I agree with Matt Yglesias that TIME should pull all its reporters on general principle.

If a campaign proves itself willing to banish reporters for doing their jobs, the news value of all reports from the plan is compromised by implication. It's not necessarily a slur against the reporters themselves. They may be doing a perfectly fair and rigorous job, it's the circumstances in which they are forced to operate.

Sending reporters to travel with the campaign gives the campaign disproportionate power.

It's ironic that virtually everything the campaign does is with an eye to getting good media coverage, and yet the media are unwilling to use that power to change the rules of engagement.

All presidential campaigns play favorites with the press. The Obama campaign probably excluded Ryan Lizza of the New Yorker to register its disapproval with the magazine's notorious caricatures of Barack and Michelle Obama.

Why do reporters put up with this nonsense?

The reason is pretty obvious, when you think about it. Nothing is going to change unless news organizations put up a united front. Problem is, the big outlets that would have to drive the bargain like the system the way it is because it excludes most of their competition.

These papers and networks are prepared to accept the ridiculous strictures that campaigns insist upon because they are confident that they will get access at the expense of their competitors from smaller outlets.

The whole campaign bus/campaign plane model is an anachronism anyway.

Again, the status quo persists because it gives an overwhelming access advantage to the news outlets that can afford to send their people. A seat on a campaign bus costs $30,000 a month ($1000 per day) per reporter.

In an era of shrinking news budgets, it's impossible to justify that kind of expenditure for reporters who serve at the pleasure of the campaign. 

Having reporters travel with the campaign reinforces the campaign's power to play favorites and punish reporters for unfavorable coverage.

From a journalistic perspective, the traveling press corps model has all the flaws of the embed program, plus more.  Like embedded reporters the campaign press is at risk of over-identifying with the source through dependence and proximity. But least obstreperous embedded reporters aren't going to get unceremoniously dumped in a war zone

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Re: Reporters Kicked Off Of Obama's Plane
« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2008, 07:11:13 AM »
October 21, 2008

Joe Klein gets kicked off McCain campaign plane
Joe Klein has been banned from the McCain and Palin planes. I agree with Matt Yglesias that TIME should pull all its reporters on general principle.

If a campaign proves itself willing to banish reporters for doing their jobs, the news value of all reports from the plan is compromised by implication. It's not necessarily a slur against the reporters themselves. They may be doing a perfectly fair and rigorous job, it's the circumstances in which they are forced to operate.

Sending reporters to travel with the campaign gives the campaign disproportionate power.

It's ironic that virtually everything the campaign does is with an eye to getting good media coverage, and yet the media are unwilling to use that power to change the rules of engagement.

All presidential campaigns play favorites with the press. The Obama campaign probably excluded Ryan Lizza of the New Yorker to register its disapproval with the magazine's notorious caricatures of Barack and Michelle Obama.

Why do reporters put up with this nonsense?

The reason is pretty obvious, when you think about it. Nothing is going to change unless news organizations put up a united front. Problem is, the big outlets that would have to drive the bargain like the system the way it is because it excludes most of their competition.

These papers and networks are prepared to accept the ridiculous strictures that campaigns insist upon because they are confident that they will get access at the expense of their competitors from smaller outlets.

The whole campaign bus/campaign plane model is an anachronism anyway.

Again, the status quo persists because it gives an overwhelming access advantage to the news outlets that can afford to send their people. A seat on a campaign bus costs $30,000 a month ($1000 per day) per reporter.

In an era of shrinking news budgets, it's impossible to justify that kind of expenditure for reporters who serve at the pleasure of the campaign. 

Having reporters travel with the campaign reinforces the campaign's power to play favorites and punish reporters for unfavorable coverage.

From a journalistic perspective, the traveling press corps model has all the flaws of the embed program, plus more.  Like embedded reporters the campaign press is at risk of over-identifying with the source through dependence and proximity. But least obstreperous embedded reporters aren't going to get unceremoniously dumped in a war zone



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Re: Reporters Kicked Off Of Obama's Plane
« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2008, 07:12:08 AM »
October 2, 2008

Columnist Maureen Dowd was told she was no longer welcome on McCain's campaign plane.

"I had had a great relationship with John McCain for 16 years, through columns he liked and didn't like. So at first I thought it was a mistake and doublechecked with the press office. They said I was banned from both planes for 'the foreseeable future.' Then [McCain spokeswoman] Nicolle Wallace was gloating about it to reporters on the Palin plane," Dowd wrote in an email.

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Re: Reporters Kicked Off Of Obama's Plane
« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2008, 07:12:37 AM »
October 2, 2008

Columnist Maureen Dowd was told she was no longer welcome on McCain's campaign plane.

"I had had a great relationship with John McCain for 16 years, through columns he liked and didn't like. So at first I thought it was a mistake and doublechecked with the press office. They said I was banned from both planes for 'the foreseeable future.' Then [McCain spokeswoman] Nicolle Wallace was gloating about it to reporters on the Palin plane," Dowd wrote in an email.



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Re: Reporters Kicked Off Of Obama's Plane
« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2008, 07:13:38 AM »
joe -

Obama is moving out print reporters to make seat room for major network videographers recording these days for history.

He's not hiding.  However, when Mccain has kicked reporters out, it'e because he didn't like what they were writing.  Obama is becoming MORE exposed, as every single move will be on video, for today's media, and history, to judge.  


Brutal thread backfire, dude.

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Re: Reporters Kicked Off Of Obama's Plane
« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2008, 07:16:14 AM »
joe -

Obama is moving out print reporters to make seat room for major network videographers recording these days for history.

He's not hiding.  However, when Mccain has kicked reporters out, it'e because he didn't like what they were writing.  Obama is becoming MORE exposed, as every single move will be on video, for today's media, and history, to judge.  


Brutal thread backfire, dude.

You said it......he's becoming more and more exposed, thats why he's losing ground in the polls (if the polls mean anything at all). Not backfire what so ever.

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Re: Reporters Kicked Off Of Obama's Plane
« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2008, 07:22:43 AM »
You said it......he's becoming more and more exposed, thats why he's losing ground in the polls (if the polls mean anything at all). Not backfire what so ever.

you're changing the direction of the thread.

Your post said "skeptical reporters thrown off plane", when in reality what he is doing is making his entire life transparent for those last 4 days.

You throw skeptical reporters off the plane when you want to hide.  He's not hiding, and you admit it.

Soooooo you're now making the thread about how he's losing ground in the polls.  Great.


*By the way, as you well know, Rush disses NY POST, DALLAS MORNING NEWS, WASHINGTON TIMES all the time as liberal garbage... so does this mean Obama is doing the corrent thing throwing out the left-wing media? ;)

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Re: Reporters Kicked Off Of Obama's Plane
« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2008, 08:09:27 AM »
you're changing the direction of the thread.

Your post said "skeptical reporters thrown off plane", when in reality what he is doing is making his entire life transparent for those last 4 days.

You throw skeptical reporters off the plane when you want to hide.  He's not hiding, and you admit it.

Soooooo you're now making the thread about how he's losing ground in the polls.  Great.


*By the way, as you well know, Rush disses NY POST, DALLAS MORNING NEWS, WASHINGTON TIMES all the time as liberal garbage... so does this mean Obama is doing the corrent thing throwing out the left-wing media? ;)

Don't present Coach's delusional bias with common sense logic.   Thats bad manners.

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Re: Reporters Kicked Off Of Obama's Plane
« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2008, 08:13:37 AM »
joe -

Obama is moving out print reporters to make seat room for major network videographers recording these days for history.

He's not hiding.  However, when Mccain has kicked reporters out, it'e because he didn't like what they were writing.  Obama is becoming MORE exposed, as every single move will be on video, for today's media, and history, to judge.  


Brutal thread backfire, dude.

The reporters moving onto the plane are from Ebony and Jet magazines not videographers.
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Re: Reporters Kicked Off Of Obama's Plane
« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2008, 08:22:53 AM »
The reporters moving onto the plane are from Ebony and Jet magazines not videographers.

joe's report reads:

"to make room for network bigwigs -- and possibly for the inclusion of reporters from two black magazines, ESSENCE and JET, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned. "

This means it's definite that the network big wigs will be there.

And possible the mags will get on there.

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Re: Reporters Kicked Off Of Obama's Plane
« Reply #11 on: October 31, 2008, 08:27:08 AM »
240 its only 3 seats.
You are listing more.
The network big wigs most likely will replace their reporters currently on the plane.
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Re: Reporters Kicked Off Of Obama's Plane
« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2008, 08:31:42 AM »
the election is in 5 days - I don't see any problem with either candidate making sure their message is very tightly managed at this point.

McCain is Dead Man Walking if he doesn't win Florida

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Re: Reporters Kicked Off Of Obama's Plane
« Reply #13 on: October 31, 2008, 09:34:45 AM »
So?

They better get used to it because they won't be flying with him on  Air Force One either.

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Re: Reporters Kicked Off Of Obama's Plane
« Reply #14 on: October 31, 2008, 10:00:49 AM »
There is a  press corps that travels on Air Force One. I don't know if you mean these particular reporters/ newspapers won't be included.

It's funny,  conservatives always decry the "liberal media" , but Ws. Times and the Post have been so biased against Obama as to be unethical. I'm sure conservatives see all sorts of imaginary conspiracy theories in the "liberal media" that could easily be deciphered using their Sean Hannity secret decoder rings, but the Times has flat out lied day after day in regards to several manufactured controversies. Their coverage of the ACORN debacle was downright sinister.

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Re: Reporters Kicked Off Of Obama's Plane
« Reply #15 on: October 31, 2008, 10:03:08 AM »
have you read www.drudgereport.com lately?

Aside from the fact they published the ashley todd fake "B" stabbing before a police report was even filed - they got the intel straight from mccain - they've been trying to cozy up with the "wronged" republicans by talking every day about mccain's comeback, and obama controversies.

Drudge used to be pretty fair.  Not so much these days!

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Re: Reporters Kicked Off Of Obama's Plane
« Reply #16 on: October 31, 2008, 10:59:07 AM »
Drudge = idiots.
Drudge readers = bigger idiots.

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Re: Reporters Kicked Off Of Obama's Plane
« Reply #17 on: October 31, 2008, 11:01:08 AM »
Drudge = Closet Queen

I read about it on The Drudge Repor

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Re: Reporters Kicked Off Of Obama's Plane
« Reply #18 on: October 31, 2008, 12:08:01 PM »
COach gets the award for the most threads started that gets him PWNED in the end...

Coach you are no help to McCain or the GOP...

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Re: Reporters Kicked Off Of Obama's Plane
« Reply #19 on: October 31, 2008, 10:09:41 PM »
He got his marketing degree from the same school as that bitch who carved the b into her face.

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Re: Reporters Kicked Off Of Obama's Plane
« Reply #20 on: November 01, 2008, 02:45:10 AM »
C'mon guys... let's cut him a little slack? You know he's gonna be crying like a little girl in 3 days...
Let's indulge his feeble attempts to swing the vote... how much damage do you think he can do in 3 days?

Even the prison system indulges a mass murderer by giving him his choice of a last meal?

Let's show a little generosity of spirit to Coach in these last 3 days... let's let him get his little hopes up.

Cause Lord knows we'll be laughing our asses off on Tuesday.

Agreed?

Ok, I'll start...


{ahem}

Wow, ...McCain is really making a comeback. He might even pull out a squeaker of a win... legitimately!  ;)
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