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Once again, Obama proving he is a liar
« on: October 31, 2008, 08:19:02 AM »
Obama Lays Plans to Kill Expectations After Election Victory
Confident in an Election Day win, the campaign looks to lower supporters' expectations on concerns their hopes of 'change' are unrealistic, a senior aide says
 
By Tim Reid, The Times of London

Barack Obama's senior advisers have drawn up plans to lower expectations for his presidency if he wins next week's election, amid concerns that many of his euphoric supporters are harboring unrealistic hopes of what he can achieve.

The sudden financial crisis and the prospect of a deep and painful recession have increased the urgency inside the Obama team to bring people down to earth, after a campaign in which his soaring rhetoric and promises of "hope" and "change" are now confronted with the reality of a stricken economy.

One senior adviser told The Times that the first few weeks of the transition, immediately after the election, were critical, "so there's not a vast mood swing from exhilaration and euphoria to despair."

The aide said that Obama himself was the first to realize that expectations risked being inflated.

In an interview with a Colorado radio station, Obama appeared to be engaged already in expectation lowering. Asked about his goals for the first hundred days, he said he would need more time to tackle such big and costly issues as health care reform, global warming and Iraq.

"The first hundred days is going to be important, but it's probably going to be the first thousand days that makes the difference," he said. He has also been reminding crowds in recent days how "hard" it will be to achieve his goals, and that it will take time.

"I won't stand here and pretend that any of this will be easy -- especially now," Obama told a rally in Sarasota, Florida, yesterday, citing "the cost of this economic crisis, and the cost of the war in Iraq." Obama's transition team is headed by John Podesta, a Washington veteran and a former chief-of-staff to Bill Clinton. He has spent months overseeing a virtual Democratic government-in-exile to plan a smooth transition should Obama emerge victorious next week.

The plans are so far advanced that an Obama Cabinet has been largely decided upon, with the expectation that most of his senior appointments could be announced shortly after election day.


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Re: Once again, Obama proving he is a liar
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2008, 08:20:28 AM »
Obama Lays Plans to Kill Expectations After Election Victory
Confident in an Election Day win, the campaign looks to lower supporters' expectations on concerns their hopes of 'change' are unrealistic, a senior aide says
 
By Tim Reid, The Times of London

Barack Obama's senior advisers have drawn up plans to lower expectations for his presidency if he wins next week's election, amid concerns that many of his euphoric supporters are harboring unrealistic hopes of what he can achieve.

The sudden financial crisis and the prospect of a deep and painful recession have increased the urgency inside the Obama team to bring people down to earth, after a campaign in which his soaring rhetoric and promises of "hope" and "change" are now confronted with the reality of a stricken economy.

One senior adviser told The Times that the first few weeks of the transition, immediately after the election, were critical, "so there's not a vast mood swing from exhilaration and euphoria to despair."

The aide said that Obama himself was the first to realize that expectations risked being inflated.

In an interview with a Colorado radio station, Obama appeared to be engaged already in expectation lowering. Asked about his goals for the first hundred days, he said he would need more time to tackle such big and costly issues as health care reform, global warming and Iraq.

"The first hundred days is going to be important, but it's probably going to be the first thousand days that makes the difference," he said. He has also been reminding crowds in recent days how "hard" it will be to achieve his goals, and that it will take time.

"I won't stand here and pretend that any of this will be easy -- especially now," Obama told a rally in Sarasota, Florida, yesterday, citing "the cost of this economic crisis, and the cost of the war in Iraq." Obama's transition team is headed by John Podesta, a Washington veteran and a former chief-of-staff to Bill Clinton. He has spent months overseeing a virtual Democratic government-in-exile to plan a smooth transition should Obama emerge victorious next week.

The plans are so far advanced that an Obama Cabinet has been largely decided upon, with the expectation that most of his senior appointments could be announced shortly after election day.



That makes sense.   After making many promises in an election you need to lower people expectations a bit after victory.

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Re: Once again, Obama proving he is a liar
« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2008, 08:26:27 AM »
First he says, no one earning less than $250k will see a raise in taxes. Then he says $200k. Then clueless Biden states it's those who earn less than $150K will no see a raise in taxes. Believe this. There is no such thing as lowering taxes on 95% of Americans who work.

HEHEHEHE!!!  Safe bet is that he will do everything he can to increase taxes. ALL of us will be paying more taxes and the economy will tank even further if this clown is elected.

Too bad there are so many of you who are too blind to see Obama for what he is. A lying liberal.

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Re: Once again, Obama proving he is a liar
« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2008, 08:29:43 AM »
First he says, no one earning less than $250k will see a raise in taxes. Then he says $200k. Then clueless Biden states it's those who earn less than $150K will no see a raise in taxes. Believe this. There is no such thing as lowering taxes on 95% of Americans who work.

HEHEHEHE!!!  Safe bet is that he will do everything he can to increase taxes. ALL of us will be paying more taxes and the economy will tank even further if this clown is elected.

Too bad there are so many of you who are too blind to see Obama for what he is. A lying liberal.
We already will be paying more in taxes at some point thanks to Bush borrowing trillions from the Red Chinese.

Or do you think that those little red devils won't expect interest payments on the principal?

YOu right wingers are really something.  You fucking ruin the economy, ruin the military, ruin our national reputation yet you still have enough ego and hatred in your black little hearts to rail on some guy who's about to be saddled with the task of fixing all your fuck ups.

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Re: Once again, Obama proving he is a liar
« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2008, 08:30:08 AM »
First he says, no one earning less than $250k will see a raise in taxes. Then he says $200k. Then clueless Biden states it's those who earn less than $150K will no see a raise in taxes. Believe this. There is no such thing as lowering taxes on 95% of Americans who work.



You are sounding like a CT'er.  Biden comment was likely a gaffee.  

Fact is, taxes will need to increase to pay for our new found socialism under BUsh.



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Re: Once again, Obama proving he is a liar
« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2008, 08:33:28 AM »
No they won't.  Control gov't spending and reform the waste and the debt can be paid.  It's thinking like that that will tank the economy even further.

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Re: Once again, Obama proving he is a liar
« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2008, 08:35:15 AM »
No they won't.  Control gov't spending and reform the waste and the debt can be paid.  It's thinking like that that will tank the economy even further.

That will never happen.   It hasn't happened under a Repub controlled government and it sure as hell won't happen with the dems.

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Re: Once again, Obama proving he is a liar
« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2008, 08:37:21 AM »
No they won't.  Control gov't spending and reform the waste and the debt can be paid.  It's thinking like that that will tank the economy even further.
And which budgetary projection concludes that?

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Re: Once again, Obama proving he is a liar
« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2008, 08:38:00 AM »
That will never happen.   It hasn't happened under a Repub controlled government and it sure as hell won't happen with the dems.

Not under Bush that's for sure but he was never known as a reformer, McCain is.


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Re: Once again, Obama proving he is a liar
« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2008, 08:38:36 AM »
And which budgetary projection concludes that?

Lol.. every one that isn't a socialist, big gov't nincompoop.

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Re: Once again, Obama proving he is a liar
« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2008, 08:38:45 AM »
One time Obama told me something that I will always remember. It was in the locker room of the Y, and he said to me, "Wash your butt."

I was like, "Whatever".

True story.

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Re: Once again, Obama proving he is a liar
« Reply #11 on: October 31, 2008, 08:41:43 AM »
Not under Bush that's for sure but he was never known as a reformer, McCain is.



You really think McCain would do this?  com on.

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Re: Once again, Obama proving he is a liar
« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2008, 08:45:28 AM »
You really think McCain would do this?  com on.

More of a chance than either Bush or Obama.

Remember he does whatever he thinks is best no matter who it's gonna piss off.  That what he's known for and he certainly no stranger to pissing of Reps and Dems alike.

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Re: Once again, Obama proving he is a liar
« Reply #13 on: October 31, 2008, 08:50:27 AM »
More of a chance than either Bush or Obama.

Remember he does whatever he thinks is best no matter who it's gonna piss off.  That what he's known for and he certainly no stranger to pissing of Reps and Dems alike.
McCain is a sidekick.  He's a complicit follower of Bush.  How you jump to the conclusion that he's not is a mystery.  Where is this stuff coming from?....probably the same place you got your budgetary analysis.

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Re: Once again, Obama proving he is a liar
« Reply #14 on: October 31, 2008, 08:51:53 AM »
More of a chance than either Bush or Obama.

Remember he does whatever he thinks is best no matter who it's gonna piss off.  That what he's known for and he certainly no stranger to pissing of Reps and Dems alike.

Not all the time.  Otherwise he wouldn't have flip flopped so much.  But I pretty much agree with what you said in that he's shown his independence in the past. 

I think who ever gets it will have a rough time.