Super Posedown, WWF style - "Ravishing" Rick Rude vs. Ultimate Warrior

[MCWAY]

I was surfing around YouTube and found this. For those who like the mass vs. aesthetics debate.

From the 1989 Royal Rumble:

Part 1

Who says bodybuilding can't draw big crowds? 

Notice that (in part 1) Jesse Ventura makes a reference to Arnold Schwarzenegger winning the Olympia.

[gymguy]

Rude had toothpic legs, tho.

[bigdumbbell]

Rude had toothpic legs, tho.

and no fuckin ass

[Wiggs]

That shit was fucking hilarious

Love Rude's hair and stache.

[fathead]

cocaine is a hell of a drug

[MCWAY]

Rude explains what to look for, before doing the double-biceps pose. But, even Gorilla Monsoon says that Rude's biceps don't have that much peak to them.

Interesting!!!

"You never saw Arnold Schwarzenegger pound his chest and jump up and down, when he won Olympia!!!" - Jesse Ventura.

[GoneAway]

Rude explains what to look for, before doing the double-biceps pose. But, even Gorilla Monsoon says that Rude's biceps don't have that much peak to them.

Interesting!!!

"You never saw Arnold Schwarzenegger pound his chest and jump up and down, when he won Olympia!!!" - Jesse Ventura.

Pumping Iron drawed a crowd because it had the charismatic and body-beautiful Arnold Schwarzenegger in the lead role of a docu-drama that didn't focus solely on the prejudging or finals of a contest. It had drama that LEAD UPTO the finals, and that (apart from the classic 1970's physiques) made the contest part much more watchable. Did I mention Arnold Schwarzenegger was in the lead role?

This WWE show drew because it had two already established megastars who were aesthetically pleasing and again, had drama - the posedown and matches that they had at the time. Rude was known as a ladies man, Warrior as a nut job, and both had amazing charm, charisma and personality.

Tell me, how does bodybuilding fit into this again?

What bodybuilding has is the free posing routines. People love that. It's the prejudging that they find boring, unless you're a hardcore fan.

[liberalismo]

Very unimpressive.

[flexingtonsteele]

Rudes Meltzeresque mustache and feathered hair was AWESOME!

[MCWAY]

Pumping Iron drawed a crowd because it had the charismatic and body-beautiful Arnold Schwarzenegger in the lead role of a docu-drama that didn't focus solely on the prejudging or finals of a contest. It had drama that LEAD UPTO the finals, and that (apart from the classic 1970's physiques) made the contest part much more watchable. Did I mention Arnold Schwarzenegger was in the lead role?

This WWE show drew because it had two already established megastars who were aesthetically pleasing and again, had drama - the posedown and matches that they had at the time. Rude was known as a ladies man, Warrior as a nut job, and both had amazing charm, charisma and personality.

Tell me, how does bodybuilding fit into this again?

What bodybuilding has is the free posing routines. People love that. It's the prejudging that they find boring, unless you're a hardcore fan.

I don't think you got the sentiment. Ventura wasn't criticizing Arnold Schawarzenegger (when he made that statement); he was criticizing the Ultimate Warrior, for his wild antics. The point was that Schwarzenegger was fluid and graceful during his routine, instead of wild and orangutan-ish, like Warrior.

Notwithstanding that this "Super Posedown" was merely the catalyst to a storyline feud between Intercontential Champion and the "Jesse 'The Body' Award Winner, I thought this was funny and interesting (especially since I hadn't seen it in several years). Many people will tell you that they got into bodybuilding by watching wrestling, because, without cable, pro wrestling was one of the few places where you could regularly see guys with bodybuilders' physiques.

[QuakerOats]

and no fuckin ass

[JasonBourne22]

Rude had toothpic legs, tho.

Yeah but I will guarantee that there wasn't a dry panty in that whole place that nite. Thats the type of body that women find sexy and the type of body that bodybuilding should go back towards (with some legs added in of course )

[QuakerOats]

Rude was a beast, he used to superset 135 pound shoulder presses with 30 pound lateral raises.

[JasonBourne22]

Rude was a beast, he used to superset 135 pound shoulder presses with 30 pound lateral raises.

One of my clients knew Rick Rude, he was actually a great family man and hell of a nice guy. Its sad that drugs eventually caught up to him

[Ruffneck]

Rude was a genuine tough guy too and was a bouncer in Minnesota with Hawk, Animal and Barry Darsaw (Demolition Smash) thats quite a formidable door crew IMO!

[Schmoe Patrol]

Rude AAS stack was usually Deca, Test and Primo

[GoneAway]

I don't think you got the sentiment. Ventura wasn't criticizing Arnold Schawarzenegger (when he made that statement); he was criticizing the Ultimate Warrior, for his wild antics. The point was that Schwarzenegger was fluid and graceful during his routine, instead of wild and orangutan-ish, like Warrior.

Notwithstanding that this "Super Posedown" was merely the catalyst to a storyline feud between Intercontential Champion and the "Jesse 'The Body' Award Winner, I thought this was funny and interesting (especially since I hadn't seen it in several years). Many people will tell you that they got into bodybuilding by watching wrestling, because, without cable, pro wrestling was one of the few places where you could regularly see guys with bodybuilders' physiques.

I got what you were saying, but my point was that bodybuilding didn't draw that big crowd to the WWE show - the wrestlers did.

[Fatpanda]

Rude was a beast, he used to superset 135 pound shoulder presses with 30 pound lateral raises.

bullshit, post a pic.

[MCWAY]

I got what you were saying, but my point was that bodybuilding didn't draw that big crowd to the WWE show - the wrestlers did.

I know that. That blurb was my attempt at being humorous.

[GoneAway]

I know that. That blurb was my attempt at being humorous.

LOL, well I actually quoted the wrong post. Would have made more sense to quote the first one... anyway, good posts. Warrior was actually a competitive BBer at one point in time, so far back he even had short, undied hair.

[Earl1972]

haha i remember watching this in 89 and thinking rick rude was super huge

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[MCWAY]

bullshit, post a pic.

There may be some confusion, here. Is he referring to a 135-lb barbell press or a shoulder presses with 135-lb dumbbells?

If it’s the latter, that doesn’t seem that far-fetched, for Rude, who looked to be a lean 245-250. He was often announced to be 252 lbs.

haha i remember watching this in 89 and thinking rick rude was super huge

E

He had what Road Warrior/LOD member Animal called "pretty boy" muscles. I used to think that, if you wanted to attract the ladies, your physique had to match that of the "Ravishing One". My favorite part of his match was when Bobby "The Brain" Heenan picked a girl out of the audience and asked her how thrilled she was to be in the presence of "Ravishing" Rick Rude. Once the girl answered "Yes" to all of Heenan's questions, Rude gave her the second version of the "Rude Awakening" (i.e. slobbering her down in the middle of the ring); and, while she's swooning in near-orgasmic bliss on the mat, with Rude was gyrating over her, Heenan would declare "We have another winner!"

[ScottWelch]

The ladies loved Rick Rude's physique! That guy had an awesome gimmic.

[QuakerOats]

There may be some confusion, here. Is he referring to a 135-lb barbell press or a shoulder presses with 135-lb dumbbells?

If it’s the latter, that doesn’t seem that far-fetched, for Rude, who looked to be a lean 245-250. He was often announced to be 252 lbs.

He had what Road Warrior/LOD member Animal called "pretty boy" muscles. I used to think that, if you wanted to attract the ladies, your physique had to match that of the "Ravishing One". My favorite part of his match was when Bobby "The Brain" Heenan picked a girl out of the audience and asked her how thrilled she was to be in the presence of "Ravishing" Rick Rude. Once the girl answered "Yes" to all of Heenan's questions, Rude gave her the second version of the "Rude Awakening" (i.e. slobbering her down in the middle of the ring); and, while she's swooning in near-orgasmic bliss on the mat, with Rude was gyrating over her, Heenan would declare "We have another winner!"

i meant barbell presses, he was an animal, those arms looked at least 16 and a half inches and the legs.......my Lord they must have been 20 inches around.

[Rimbaud]

Classic. Brings back memories.