Serious concerns if Obama wins...

[polychronopolous]

Great post 240, gonna be hard for the right-wingers to put that down, short of pulling the "left-wing bias/credibility" card

[headhuntersix]

Yeah......don't whine when Ol barry bungles the next 4 years far worse then anything Bush did. And let me gues, U guys will love the Patriot act now that Barrack is in charge.

[Hereford]

They gotta make sure you aren't comitting hate crimes and overdoing it on the bird bacon...

[headhuntersix]

Just wait...the Left has always been worse in trying to regulate, legislate or ensure we think, talk and act like them. I'm sure the PC bs will creep down into the military like it did under Clinton.

[Hugo Chavez]

Excuse me, what do i do....prison planet is not a source..ur ct wackjob websites aren't sources. They take legitimate news items....add a BS ct spin and provocative headline and sell it as fact. When u read the news link they use, it has nothing to with the point these idiots are trying to make.

getting you to source the material you bring is like pulling teeth, I gave up.  I didn't say anything about what you or I bring dickhead.

[polychronopolous]

or ensure we think, talk and act like them.

Actually quite the contrary, most leftys I know could care less how you "think, talk or act".

Live and let live.

[Dan-O]

Actually quite the contrary, most leftys I know could care less how you "think, talk or act".

Live and let live.

You must not know the same lefties I know!  They're the worst when it comes to wanting to enforce their point of view...  they decry any differing point of view as hateful and/or intolerant...  kind of ironic.

[Dos Equis]

When you make ambiguous statements, I deconstruct your response to refer to the topic at hand and not the person making the post.
It's not a soapbox.  It's called the moral high ground.

You should try it some time.

Moral high ground?  That's really funny.  So not only are people support Bush (and McCain) stupid, they are immoral.  What's next?  Searching for "666" on scalps? 

[Decker]

Moral high ground?  That's really funny.  So not only are people support Bush (and McCain) stupid, they are immoral.  What's next?  Searching for "666" on scalps? 

I believe that the dumber the right wing candidate, the more it energizes the republican base.  For instance, Palin's comments about Obama's terrorism coupled with winks and 'you betchas' caused the republican base to fling their feces in approval.  Dumber than Quayle...and dumber than Bush.

As for 666 on the scalps, that's your party's lifeline.  The end times is 'round the corner.

The moral highground comes from standing with me here: no torture, no murderous wars of naked aggression, no illegal domestic spying and retaining a sense of honor re the dignity of our constitutional form of government.  Big Mac stood with Bush on most of those topics.  Obama stands apart.

[CQ]

I believe that the dumber the right wing candidate, the more it energizes the republican base.  For instance, Palin's comments about Obama's terrorism coupled with winks and 'you betchas' caused the republican base to fling their feces in approval. 

 !!!!!

[Dos Equis]

I believe that the dumber the right wing candidate, the more it energizes the republican base.  For instance, Palin's comments about Obama's terrorism coupled with winks and 'you betchas' caused the republican base to fling their feces in approval.  Dumber than Quayle...and dumber than Bush.

As for 666 on the scalps, that's your party's lifeline.  The end times is 'round the corner.

The moral highground comes from standing with me here: no torture, no murderous wars of naked aggression, no illegal domestic spying and retaining a sense of honor re the dignity of our constitutional form of government.  Big Mac stood with Bush on most of those topics.  Obama stands apart.

The nonexistent moral high ground comes from you having a different viewpoint.  It kills me how people have turned policy disagreements into good vs. evil.  No, you're not smarter or more righteous than your conservative counterparts simply because you embrace a different ideology.  You simply have different viewpoints. 

Obama isn't evil because he is a quasi socialist and will spend us into oblivion, he's just wrong.  And not qualified to be president. 

But look at the brightside:  tomorrow night you can stop demonizing people you disagree with and finally get over the 2000 election.  Or you can start taking anti-depressants (depending on who wins). 

[Fury]

I believe that the dumber the right wing candidate, the more it energizes the republican base.  For instance, Palin's comments about Obama's terrorism coupled with winks and 'you betchas' caused the republican base to fling their feces in approval.  Dumber than Quayle...and dumber than Bush.

As for 666 on the scalps, that's your party's lifeline.  The end times is 'round the corner.

The moral highground comes from standing with me here: no torture, no murderous wars of naked aggression, no illegal domestic spying and retaining a sense of honor re the dignity of our constitutional form of government.  Big Mac stood with Bush on most of those topics.  Obama stands apart.

There you go again acting like Dems are smarter than Repubs. You're both retarded. Plain and simple. Get off your high horse you homo. You're no better than the Repubs but you're equally annoying and pathetic.

[big L dawg]

Then Iran, China and Russia all get an ass-whooping on the same day! Sucks to be them.

get whooped like Iraq and Afghanistan?

[Decker]

The nonexistent moral high ground comes from you having a different viewpoint.  It kills me how people have turned policy disagreements into good vs. evil.  No, you're not smarter or more righteous than your conservative counterparts simply because you embrace a different ideology.  You simply have different viewpoints. 

Obama isn't evil because he is a quasi socialist and will spend us into oblivion, he's just wrong.  And not qualified to be president. 

But look at the brightside:  tomorrow night you can stop demonizing people you disagree with and finally get over the 2000 election.  Or you can start taking anti-depressants (depending on who wins). 

You are a moral relativist. 

According to you my opinion isn't better than yours for the reasons I provide--torture, wars of aggression etc are NOT part of this country's history and traditions--rather, you assert that we have separate but equal opinions.

I tell you exactly why my views tower over yours in the conservative moral sense and you weakly respond that we have differing opinions and I suffer from some delusion of prejudice (ideology).

Now it makes sense why you cannot see torture or murderous invasions as immoral.

I don't have to demonize my opponents.  There's already a room reserved for them in the Hotel California.

[Decker]

There you go again acting like Dems are smarter than Repubs. You're both retarded. Plain and simple. Get off your high horse you homo. You're no better than the Repubs but you're equally annoying and pathetic.

Let's see you've made your obligatory homosexual refrence, but hey!, where's your usual homage to cocks and bukkake?

Whatever the case, you're still consistent with your closeted homo-erotic mindset.

Keep up the good work Eldon.

[Fury]

Let's see you've made your obligatory homosexual refrence, but hey!, where's your usual homage to cocks and bukkake?

Whatever the case, you're still consistent with your closeted homo-erotic mindset.

Keep up the good work Eldon.

That's funny because you had a 40 post or so stretch a few weeks ago where every comment directed at a few posters involved some form of penis worship. Don't be upset that you're not the only one who can make homophobic comments. I can brush them off while you throw a temper tantrum and meltdown.

But my point stands regardless of the insults mixed in with it. 

[Dos Equis]

You are a moral relativist. 

According to you my opinion isn't better than yours for the reasons I provide--torture, wars of aggression etc are NOT part of this country's history and traditions--rather, you assert that we have separate but equal opinions.

I tell you exactly why my views tower over yours in the conservative moral sense and you weakly respond that we have differing opinions and I suffer from some delusion of prejudice (ideology).

Now it makes sense why you cannot see torture or murderous invasions as immoral.

I don't have to demonize my opponents.  There's already a room reserved for them in the Hotel California.

Moral relativist?  lol.  Hardly.  Moral skepticism is actually a liberal hallmark.  That's why liberals can do things like defend child rapists and pretty much anything Planned Parenthood does.  

I just don't have my nose in the clouds.  You talk like an elitist.  Or has they say here, "high maka maka."  Not sure if you are, but that's the impression you're giving.    

Where did I say my opinion was better than yours?  And what opinion are you talking about?  I was talking about having different opinions, not better opinions.

The fact you call people who disagree with you politically "opponents" speaks volumes.  You're a partisan.  You see way too much through partisan glasses.  You absolutely have to demonize people who you disagree with in order to call them evil, immoral, etc.  They can't just be wrong or have a different take than you.  If that were the case, then demonizing them would make you sound irrational.

At the end of the day, it's just a difference of opinion.    

[Decker]

That's funny because you had a 40 post or so stretch a few weeks ago where every comment directed at a few posters involved some form of penis worship. Don't be upset that you're not the only one who can make homophobic comments. I can brush them off while you throw a temper tantrum and meltdown.

But my point stands regardless of the insults mixed in with it. 

The only point that you have is on your fucking head.

[Decker]

Moral relativist?  lol.  Hardly.  Moral skepticism is actually a liberal hallmark.  That's why liberals can do things like defend child rapists and pretty much anything Planned Parenthood does.  

I just don't have my nose in the clouds.  You talk like an elitist.  Or has they say here, "high maka maka."  Not sure if you are, but that's the impression you're giving.  

You're damn right I'm an 'elitest' when it comes to these matters.  The 'common' folk with their charges of terrorist sympathizer, arab, Muslim etc need some guidance post haste. 

Where did I say my opinion was better than yours?  And what opinion are you talking about?  I was talking about having different opinions, not better opinions.

I said you are a moral relativist.  In your world, there is no better or worse, there is only different and there are no gradations of qualitative difference b/c our opinions are just that...opinions.

The fact you call people who disagree with you politically "opponents" speaks volumes.  You're a partisan.  You see way too much through partisan glasses.  You absolutely have to demonize people who you disagree with in order to call them evil, immoral, etc.  They can't just be wrong or have a different take than you.  If that were the case, then demonizing them would make you sound irrational.

Of course I'm partisan.  I believe that my system of good and evil is superior to the hard right wing, contradictory, world view.  In my world, torture, illegal wars of aggression and the unitary power of the executive office are evil.  Those views of your ideological brethren belong to dictatorial fascist regimes, not democratic republics.

At the end of the day, it's just a difference of opinion.   

So says the relativist.  It's no better or worse, it's just different.  You (Decker) only feel superior with your perspective b/c you demonize your opponents.

[Eyeball Chambers]

The moral highground comes from standing with me here: no torture, no murderous wars of naked aggression, no illegal domestic spying and retaining a sense of honor re the dignity of our constitutional form of government.  Big Mac stood with Bush on most of those topics.  Obama stands apart.

good post

[headhuntersix]

Obama will be worse...the libs will prove to be far worse then the Bush folks.  The Lefties are salivating to enforce the fairness doctrine, packing the courts, using the Patriot act...funny I don't remember and Bush led  law enforcement agency laying seige to compounds, seizing weapons or murdering women and children...u guys have very very very short memories. No Republican ever came for anybodies weapons....Dems have...nobody ever stuck an MP-5 in some kids face and deported him back to  Cuba....Reno did. Nobody allowed Delta Commando's, in pure violation of the Posse Comitatus law, to engage in a raid on US soil, which resulted in the deaths of women and children. No Bush led ATF agency ever laid seize to a home, and shot up a mans' family.  Yet all u lefty CT nuts forget all this...just wait.

[Heywood]

Yeah, that damn Bush put all his friends into the government.  

But if Obama did it, we'd have a Cabinet of Rezko, Ayers, Dohrn, Wright, Khalidi and his wife.  

Now there's a "Heck of a Job, Brownie" moment......

[headhuntersix]

Yeah horrible people like Powell and Rice.....we also got Rummy but Obama knows better...he won't put people who will outwardly piss anybody off...but the ideology won't change..this socialist leopard can't change his spots.

[Dos Equis]

You're damn right I'm an 'elitest' when it comes to these matters.  The 'common' folk with their charges of terrorist sympathizer, arab, Muslim etc need some guidance post haste. 
 I said you are a moral relativist.  In your world, there is no better or worse, there is only different and there are no gradations of qualitative difference b/c our opinions are just that...opinions.

Of course I'm partisan.  I believe that my system of good and evil is superior to the hard right wing, contradictory, world view.  In my world, torture, illegal wars of aggression and the unitary power of the executive office are evil.  Those views of your ideological brethren belong to dictatorial fascist regimes, not democratic republics.

 So says the relativist.  It's no better or worse, it's just different.  You (Decker) only feel superior with your perspective b/c you demonize your opponents.

Nonsense.  There is good and evil in this world and there are also differences of opinion.  You are confusing the two.  Political differences are by and large matters of opinion.  What you've done is taken about the most extreme position possible and called anyone who disagrees dumb and immoral. 

I have no trouble calling out evil or immorality when I see it, like NAMBLA, or the defense of NAMBLA, something you don't have a problem with.  That makes you a moral relativist.  I have no trouble calling Planned Parenthood's knowing acceptance of donations from racists who want black babies aborted immoral, or their repeated attempts to convince girls to lie for abortions and protect rapists immoral.  That doesn't bother you, which makes you a moral relativist. 

Does that make you evil or immoral?  No.  Just makes you wrong. 

Then again, I have to keep in mind I'm talking to the same person who thinks anyone who votes for McCain is stupid. 

[Hereford]

get whooped like Iraq and Afghanistan?

Iraq and Afghanistan both got whooped in less than a week.