Insider Gerard Dente Memory from Craig Richardson's Training Partner

[HarleyBreite]

Hey Guys,
     Back in the late 80's, I often trained at Bob Bonham's Strong and Shapely Gym in Rutherford.  Many of NJ's best BBs were there.
     One day, top National competitor Gerard Dente was getting ready to do some incline dumbell presses.  At the time, Gerard was one of the biggest guys I had ever seen.  He was perhaps just a biscuit under 300 lbs and was massive everywhere.  You would think he would look sloppy at that weight, but no, he didn't.  He wasn't ripped to the bone but he was considerably hard at that weight and could easily have given a great guest posing appearance.
     That day, I personally witnessed his moving 200 lb. dumbells for quite a few perfect reps.  He may have actually been moving 220 lb dumbells but my memory seems to recall that they were in fact, 200 pounders.  It was a sight just to see his massive 2 training partners get that weight to him.  Guys in the 80's really did train hard and relied very much on the free weights. 
     I occassionally see Gerard now in the gym and he looks awesome.  He must be about 240 pounds and in great condition.  He has a great deal of knowledge when it comes to actual weight training and is very accomodating in giving that advice to anyone who might ask.
Harley

[QuakerOats]

damn that's impressive, was that at Diamond Gym, Harley?

[HarleyBreite]

damn that's impressive, was that at Diamond Gym, Harley?

No, it was at Bob Bonham's Strong and Shapely in Rutherford.
I have some pretty kool photos but I can't figure out how to copy and paste them to this board.
Can anyone offer some "idiot simple" help?
Thanks

[mass 04]

No, it was at Bob Bonham's Strong and Shapely in Rutherford.
I have some pretty kool photos but I can't figure out how to copy and paste them to this board.
Can anyone offer some "idiot simple" help?
Thanks

If they're saved to your comp just hit additional options and attach them from the folder.

[QuakerOats]

No, it was at Bob Bonham's Strong and Shapely in Rutherford.
I have some pretty kool photos but I can't figure out how to copy and paste them to this board.
Can anyone offer some "idiot simple" help?
Thanks

you need to load the pics to your desktop and then when you go to reply to a post hit the "additional options" in blue letters at the bottom and then click on "browse" and your picture account screen will come up, click on the photo you want and then click "post".

[mwbbuilder]

Doe anyone really care about Craig Richardson...let alone Craig Richardson's training partner? There's a reason why he doesn't have a sponsor or much publicity (although he has a great physique but there are tons of great physiques around the world).

No "wow" factor.

You either have it or you don't.

The people have spoken. Sorry.

[bodybuilder1234]

Doe anyone really care about Craig Richardson...let alone Craig Richardson's training partner? There's a reason why he doesn't have a sponsor or much publicity (although he has a great physique but there are tons of great physiques around the world).

No "wow" factor.

You either have it or you don't.

The people have spoken. Sorry.

Craig is improving, he will rise to the top very soon

[willl]

yes well, maybe he got to upp those 1,5 Test to 1,6 Test

try talking him into it, harv

or let him read our getbig bible, much information, very good

[mwbbuilder]

Craig is improving, he will rise to the top very soon

I'm sure his body will. Unfortunately, he doesn't have "it" to be marketable. He will continue to get lost in the shuffle like hundreds of other bodybuilders.

That's no knock on him. Not many have "it" when you think about all the thousands of bodybuilders around the world.

It's just interesting how a guy who falls through the cracks' training partner thinks anyone cares what he has to say.

[Mars]

The fact we talk about him is enough, getbig made or broke carreers of pro bodybuilders, i think we should give him the benefit of a doubt and endorse him.

[Stavios]

yes, we have to remember what happened to Toney Freeman after the Squad endorsed him

[Mars]

yes Stavios, hes one example of an athlete we really helped to drag him into the spotlight, offcourse, hes the one who did it, we just gave him that extra push.

[njflex]

gerard was a big duse used to seem him out back in the day,father owns bigtime marble co in nj he's set,and his company mhp is making good name for itself,he was really good bber then,back to richardson calling him a non marketable type who cares ,in top shape which he usually does more often than not he is a consistent top 5 in all the smaller shows ,insane legs,delts ,condtioning.he just needs to keep adding little details to back and some thickness at this stage it all little things,he can't outmass anybody who already outmass him now,5'7 220/230 is a big dude.has great shape thats his bag ,get over it.

[Top Dog]

Bob Bonham's Strong and Shapely in Rutherford NJ was th finest gym I've ever trained in.  I too was there in the late 80's and early 90's and Dente was just one of the impressive individuals you would see there. Whatever big name was in the area at the time would train there. From Olympian's to Fitness stars.

[HarleyBreite]

Doe anyone really care about Craig Richardson...let alone Craig Richardson's training partner? There's a reason why he doesn't have a sponsor or much publicity (although he has a great physique but there are tons of great physiques around the world).

No "wow" factor.

You either have it or you don't.

The people have spoken. Sorry.

Dear mwbbuilder,
     I hope people care about Craig as much as they would care about anyone who has never harmed someone else and who has contributed to a sport that you yourself care about.
     As far as me, I never asked you to care.  I would be happy to read all the knowledge and personal experience you have to offer but please omit anything you read in the magazines and just give me what you yourself have experienced first hand.
     Well, why don't you tell me why he doesn't have a sponsor.  Let me guess, he isn't huge enough?  Ok, well not every pro can be like Ruhl or Ronnie.  Besides, wouldn't that be a bit boring?
     As far as Craig not having publicity, he just had a 24 page layout in MuscleMag.  You may not realize, but in the real world of BB, without a sponsor, your placings and magazine space may be affected.
    Are there really "tons of great physiques around the world?"  I have traveled the world and almost never see someone built like Craig or any other pro bb.  While the magazines may be filled with pictures of all these guys, when do you ever see someone like that out in the real world?  Take all the pros in the world, add that to all the National level competitors and how many are you left with?  A few hundred at best. 
    If you don't find a "wow factor" in Craig's physique, that is your right.  I just wonder when the last time you saw a guy in person at 5'7, with quads and arms his size and sporting a 30 inch waist. 
   Now you may have "spoken," but I don't believe you are the voice of the "people."
Harley

[HarleyBreite]

yes well, maybe he got to upp those 1,5 Test to 1,6 Test

try talking him into it, harv

or let him read our getbig bible, much information, very good

Hey Willl,
     So it's all about the dosage?  Well, why don't you take 1,600 mgs and you could be a pro too?  There is no doubt that gear counts, but there is too much more to the sport for anyone to claim that gear is the end all of how one looks.  Just try dieting, training and cardio the way the pros do for 12 weeks and see how much gear you really need.
    I guess calling me "harv" is your way to provoke me?  It's a shame that we who love the sport have so much inner conflict.  One thing I am fairly certain of, you would not be willing to approach me at a show and introduce yourself and call me "harv."  It's easy to criticize and antagonize from a keyboard but I was hoping that we would exchange valuable information and interesting stories.
Harley

[bodybuilder1234]

Hey Willl,
     So it's all about the dosage?  Well, why don't you take 1,600 mgs and you could be a pro too?  There is no doubt that gear counts, but there is too much more to the sport for anyone to claim that gear is the end all of how one looks.  Just try dieting, training and cardio the way the pros do for 12 weeks and see how much gear you really need.
    I guess calling me "harv" is your way to provoke me?  It's a shame that we who love the sport have so much inner conflict.  One thing I am fairly certain of, you would not be willing to approach me at a show and introduce yourself and call me "harv."  It's easy to criticize and antagonize from a keyboard but I was hoping that we would exchange valuable information and interesting stories.
Harley

lol

[mwbbuilder]

Dear mwbbuilder,
     I hope people care about Craig as much as they would care about anyone who has never harmed someone else and who has contributed to a sport that you yourself care about.
     As far as me, I never asked you to care.  I would be happy to read all the knowledge and personal experience you have to offer but please omit anything you read in the magazines and just give me what you yourself have experienced first hand.
     Well, why don't you tell me why he doesn't have a sponsor.  Let me guess, he isn't huge enough?  Ok, well not every pro can be like Ruhl or Ronnie.  Besides, wouldn't that be a bit boring?
     As far as Craig not having publicity, he just had a 24 page layout in MuscleMag.  You may not realize, but in the real world of BB, without a sponsor, your placings and magazine space may be affected.
    Are there really "tons of great physiques around the world?"  I have traveled the world and almost never see someone built like Craig or any other pro bb.  While the magazines may be filled with pictures of all these guys, when do you ever see someone like that out in the real world?  Take all the pros in the world, add that to all the National level competitors and how many are you left with?  A few hundred at best. 
    If you don't find a "wow factor" in Craig's physique, that is your right.  I just wonder when the last time you saw a guy in person at 5'7, with quads and arms his size and sporting a 30 inch waist. 
   Now you may have "spoken," but I don't believe you are the voice of the "people."
Harley

you don't get what I'm saying.

I'm sure he's a great guy. He does have an awesome body. But that's not enough to "make it" in this sport (?).

If he wants to do a few shows, then have at it.

It's like all of those great singers who make it through millions on "American Idol". Very few have the "it" factor to make a real name for themselves.

I haven't just spoken. The dozens of supplement companies have spoken.

"It" is that little something that no one else has (everyone has got a great body among the pros), chemistry that generates interest, charisma that makes people interesting in you.

[Relentless]

Hey Willl,
     So it's all about the dosage?  Well, why don't you take 1,600 mgs and you could be a pro too?  There is no doubt that gear counts, but there is too much more to the sport for anyone to claim that gear is the end all of how one looks.  Just try dieting, training and cardio the way the pros do for 12 weeks and see how much gear you really need.
    I guess calling me "harv" is your way to provoke me?  It's a shame that we who love the sport have so much inner conflict.  One thing I am fairly certain of, you would not be willing to approach me at a show and introduce yourself and call me "harv."  It's easy to criticize and antagonize from a keyboard but I was hoping that we would exchange valuable information and interesting stories.
Harley

Harley,
I've always thought Craig was extremely underrated and didn't get fair placings at more than a couple of contests.  He's got that full, round muscle...with great conditioning as well.  Many other guys have gotten more pub...but don't have a physique anywhere close to Craig.  Any idea why he doesn't get his just due?  I've never understood it. 

[LatsMcGee]

Harley you are a G rated version of Beefy Heavyweight.  We need better stories than this buddy.

[210 and growing]

Hey Willl,
     So it's all about the dosage?  Well, why don't you take 1,600 mgs and you could be a pro too?  There is no doubt that gear counts, but there is too much more to the sport for anyone to claim that gear is the end all of how one looks.  Just try dieting, training and cardio the way the pros do for 12 weeks and see how much gear you really need.
    I guess calling me "harv" is your way to provoke me?  It's a shame that we who love the sport have so much inner conflict.  One thing I am fairly certain of, you would not be willing to approach me at a show and introduce yourself and call me "harv."  It's easy to criticize and antagonize from a keyboard but I was hoping that we would exchange valuable information and interesting stories.
Harley

'Harv',
Dont start feuds with people saying 'you wouldnt approach me at a show' etc or you will fast become the new derek anthony / king kamali etc. You seem like a cool guy dont take all this stuff on here too seriously

[willl]

Hey Willl,
     So it's all about the dosage?  Well, why don't you take 1,600 mgs and you could be a pro too?  There is no doubt that gear counts, but there is too much more to the sport for anyone to claim that gear is the end all of how one looks.  Just try dieting, training and cardio the way the pros do for 12 weeks and see how much gear you really need.
    I guess calling me "harv" is your way to provoke me?  It's a shame that we who love the sport have so much inner conflict.  One thing I am fairly certain of, you would not be willing to approach me at a show and introduce yourself and call me "harv."  It's easy to criticize and antagonize from a keyboard but I was hoping that we would exchange valuable information and interesting stories.
Harley

I am talking about Your claims on His dosages, which are obviously very low.
So, if he wants more mass, maybe he should try to up the dosage you claim.
And following your claims, he would still be on low dosage if he upped to lets say 2.

[Benny B]

you don't get what I'm saying.

I'm sure he's a great guy. He does have an awesome body. But that's not enough to "make it" in this sport (?).

If he wants to do a few shows, then have at it.

It's like all of those great singers who make it through millions on "American Idol". Very few have the "it" factor to make a real name for themselves.

I haven't just spoken. The dozens of supplement companies have spoken.

"It" is that little something that no one else has (everyone has got a great body among the pros), chemistry that generates interest, charisma that makes people interesting in you.

whatever 

Harley you are a G rated version of Beefy Heavyweight.  We need better stories than this buddy.

lol
Harley's ok. 

[Bob Bonham]

I should have warned you about guys on this board and why there are hardly any pros on it.



Harley tries to give you in-site and you diss him. He is smarter than most of us here having known him since he was a teen.
Give Craig some life credit too growing up poor in Paterson NJ   he had all the opportunity to be a thug and a low life. But his mellow and respectfull personality lead him up the positive road. A family man and dad .

[njflex]

I should have warned you about guys on this board and why there are hardly any pros on it.



Harley tries to give you in-site and you diss him. He is smarter than most of us here having known him since he was a teen.
Give Craig some life credit too growing up poor in Paterson NJ   he had all the opportunity to be a thug and a low life. But his mellow and respectfull personality lead him up the positive road. A family man and dad .

THATS why all the great bbers come/came your way,your gym was a safe haven for all types of people who wanted to get in shape.