This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.

[spinnis]

I agree with you completely
you're supposed to look bigger off season
look at his chest, it's not there
dude must be doing cycles close to competition or something  

How is it possible to have biggers arms dieted down the offseason and still be a natural? 

[vice1]

How is it possible to have biggers arms dieted down the offseason and still be a natural? 

look at him, this is ridiculous
he is much bigger competition time than offseason?
he has no muscle mass offseason
wtf?
this dude has shitty genetics and uses steroids when he gets close to competition

[wavelength]

I think he had a pec tear and the pics are post op?

[spinnis]

look at him, this is ridiculous
he is much bigger competition time than offseason?
he has no muscle mass offseason
wtf?
this dude has shitty genetics and uses steroids when he gets close to competition

Ding ding ding we have a winner.


How the fuck can someone deadlift 600 pounds in the offseason and still look like a bag of shit. I dont get it. Whats the point in lifting that heavy if it doesnt show?

[spinnis]

I think he had a pec tear and the pics are post op?

Every single one of his offseason photos looks like complete shit, I didnt find the beach ones which (spell) was from like last year or something...

[vice1]

Ding ding ding we have a winner.


How the fuck can someone deadlift 600 pounds in the offseason and still look like a bag of shit. I dont get it. Whats the point in lifting that heavy if it doesnt show?

I think you should start a thread asking how the fuck this is possible
his whole body gets bigger competition time than offseason
still looks like shit for someone on steroids though  

[TommyBoy]

Ding ding ding we have a winner.


How the fuck can someone deadlift 600 pounds in the offseason and still look like a bag of shit. I dont get it. Whats the point in lifting that heavy if it doesnt show?

Is there a story to these pics though? I could understand if he just came off a injury and is posting them as a "before I get serious again" kind of deal. Cause yeah...the competition pics he looks a LOT bigger than his offseason which doesn't make sense. The only way it does to me is if the guy is coming off an injury which I believe wavelength(?) mentioned.

still looks like shit for someone on steroids though 

Looks better than evey upper bodybuilding juice head I've even seen regardless of AAS use or not. Then again, just opinion.

[spinnis]

Is there a story to these pics though? I could understand if he just came off a injury and is posting them as a "before I get serious again" kind of deal. Cause yeah...the competition pics he looks a LOT bigger than his offseason which doesn't make sense. The only way it does to me is if the guy is coming off an injury which I believe wavelength(?) mentioned.

His old beach photos looks exactly like those, im gonna try to find them later

[vice1]

Is there a story to these pics though? I could understand if he just came off a injury and is posting them as a "before I get serious again" kind of deal. Cause yeah...the competition pics he looks a LOT bigger than his offseason which doesn't make sense. The only way it does to me is if the guy is coming off an injury which I believe wavelength(?) mentioned.

Looks better than evey upper bodybuilding juice head I've even seen regardless of AAS use or not. Then again, just opinion.

I have seen other pics of him offseason, still looks like shit
are you blind? looks better than every bodybuilding juice head you've ever seen?

[wavelength]

here are his post op pics:

[TommyBoy]

I have seen other pics of him offseason, still looks like shit
are you blind? looks better than every bodybuilding juice head you've ever seen?

Re-read what I said. You left out a key word that I pre-faced that statement with. That word should indicate the intelligence/dedication levels of said users. I did not say he looks better than EVERY AAS user out there. That should have been obvious to any English speaking/understanding individual but I guess not.

[spinnis]

the guru is 5 days out :/

[vice1]

here is one 
he has no business hitting a most muscular

[spinnis]

DOES THIS LOOKS LIKE A NATURAL PRO TO YOU?




Does this look like a 450pound bencher and 600 pound deadlifter to you?

[TommyBoy]

the guru is 5 days out :/

Is this a contest after the surgery? Those post-op pics he looks good considering the circumstances. Nowhere near the other pics. I wouldn't guess pro by any means.

[musclehedz]

He uses drugs before a comp.

[spinnis]

Is this a contest after the surgery? Those post-op pics he looks good considering the circumstances. Nowhere near the other pics. I wouldn't guess pro by any means.

Thats way before..  2 years ago...

[TommyBoy]

Thats way before..  2 years ago...

Damn. Well speaking from experience, if he achieved the condition of those other pics naturally, then muscle memory should at least get him within range of it again regardless of injury. So...yeah.

[vice1]

look at those shitty legs and calves 
has he tried a squat?

[Stavios]

Swede, you sound very ignorant in this thread

Layne as just as much muscle mass in the off-season pictures than when he was onstage
he is just fatter, wich make him much less impressive.

he is not "bigger" onstage

[wavelength]

if one on this board is lifetime natty and can produce better pics, that would be interesting

[musclehedz]

Swede, you sound very ignorant in this thread

Layne as just as much muscle mass in the off-season pictures than when he was onstage
he is just fatter, wich make him much less impressive.

he is not "bigger" onstage

He is. And more ripped.

[Stavios]

He is. And more ripped.

Lol

not he is not. he is leaner, that's it.
he is not bigger onstage, you guys should try competing you would understand what I mean

[Swedish Viking]

Very impressive in person, saw him at a contest.  I don't doubt that he is clean; his off season pics look exactly as they should-like a clean guy with roughly 12-20%bf.  You look smaller when you are leaner, what do you expect?

ps. The point of lifting heavy weights even if you don't look like anything is because lifting heavy weights is fun and makes you feel good.  

[vice1]

Swede, you sound very ignorant in this thread

Layne as just as much muscle mass in the off-season pictures than when he was onstage
he is just fatter, wich make him much less impressive.

he is not "bigger" onstage

does he look the same size to you?
he has no chest offseason