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For Russia's Putin, knockabout with Obama is just the ticket
« on: November 10, 2008, 02:10:17 PM »
Good job guys...U elected a guy that the Russkies think is a pussy.

Still Russia's dominant politician, Vladimir Putin can only relish the prospect of a new bout of Russian-US rivalry with American leader-in-waiting Barack Obama, say analysts.
While much of the world celebrated Obama's US presidential win, a stony-faced Russian reaction was a reminder of Cold War-style tensions between Washington and Moscow.

On the Internet, Russian bloggers portrayed the victory of a black candidate as evidence of American decline. On an official level, President Dmitry Medvedev chose the day of Obama's win to announce the deployment of short-range missiles to Kaliningrad, a Russian outpost in Europe.

Numerous analysts said Medvedev's response was clearly authored by Putin, no longer president himself but powerful in the prime minister's post and long the spearhead of Russian attacks on the United States.

"Putin is of course number one in this tandem," said Yevgeny Volk, head of the Moscow office of the US Heritage Foundation, a research centre.

The announcement of missile deployments to Kaliningrad is meant "to test Obama -- whether he really is a strong and efficient leader," said Volk.

Although he stood down as president in May in accordance with the constitution, Putin has kept a high profile.

He has released a judo training video, has "saved" a group of journalists from a loose Siberian tiger using a tranquilizer dart, and still meets world leaders such as Italy's Silvio Berlusconi and Libya's Moamer Kadhafi, whom he hosted this month in the Kremlin.

Analysts said Putin's natural role was in baiting a United States cast by state media in the role of aggressor and that the 56-year-old could return to Russia's presidency.

Russian analyst Andrei Piontkovsky, who currently works at Washington's Hudson Institute, said Putin was beset by economic worries in the prime minister's post and wanted to "flee" for the safety of the presidency, a tsar-like role generally seen as beyond criticism.

Media speculation that Medvedev could step down to make way for Putin mounted this week when Medvedev said he wanted to extend presidential terms to six years.

Presidential aide Arkady Dvorkovich insisted Medvedev would carry on, possibly into a second term in 2012.

Unconvinced, Piontkovsky said Putin's "economic magic has ended. So he wants to leave the post of prime minister and concentrate on fighting American imperialism."

Volk said the Russian perception of Obama was of a politician inexperienced in foreign affairs who might be made to back down on US plans to place missile defence facilities in eastern Europe, which Moscow has portrayed as a threat.

This perception of a weak Obama was driven home on Saturday by a photograph on the front page of the Kommersant newspaper that showed his humiliating detention at an airport in the Ural Mountains on a 2005 visit he made as part of a nuclear disarmament programme.

In similar vein, the newspaper Moskovsky Komsomolets featured reminiscences of Obama's tour, saying "for a large part of his visit, Obama kept quiet and smiled."

Volk said Russia would follow up last week's threats with further high-profile shows of strength.

Putin last week dispatched a trusted lieutenant, First Deputy Prime Minister Igor Sechin, to Cuba and Venezuela to prepare a presidential tour of South America this month that is likely to rankle Washington.

While Cuba does not figure on Medvedev's itinerary, he is due to oversee joint naval exercises off the coast of Venezuela, amid US worries about Russian arms supplies to Venezuela.

For Moscow-based political columnist Dmitry Oreshkin, confrontation with a belligerent United States has become an essential tactic for Russia's authoritarian leadership to deflect discontent at home.

The arrival of a more conciliatory US leader could therefore be seen as a challenge for Putin and his team.

While many Russians suspect "another cunning trick to deceive Russia," he said, there are others who are "not delighted by the actions of Medvedev and Putin and who realise the government is theatre."


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Re: For Russia's Putin, knockabout with Obama is just the ticket
« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2008, 02:12:23 PM »
If we just foster a little more understanding, then Russia will be our friend.

Yes we can.

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Re: For Russia's Putin, knockabout with Obama is just the ticket
« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2008, 02:18:24 PM »

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Re: For Russia's Putin, knockabout with Obama is just the ticket
« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2008, 02:21:02 PM »
That's a great clip.  While Bush was lovingly looking into Putin's soul, Putin spit upon Bush.

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Re: For Russia's Putin, knockabout with Obama is just the ticket
« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2008, 02:30:57 PM »
On the Judo mat, Putin would snap Obama like a twig.     :)

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Re: For Russia's Putin, knockabout with Obama is just the ticket
« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2008, 02:32:33 PM »
If we can just be nice enough and appease our enemies by giving them whatever they say they want, they won't hate us anymore.

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Re: For Russia's Putin, knockabout with Obama is just the ticket
« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2008, 02:33:41 PM »
On the Judo mat, Putin would snap Obama like a twig.     :)

He didn't even need to make contact to do that to Bush!  ;D

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Re: For Russia's Putin, knockabout with Obama is just the ticket
« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2008, 02:35:35 PM »
I think both sides are toying with peoples minds. Each side has to create an enemy of some sort.  :-\


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Re: For Russia's Putin, knockabout with Obama is just the ticket
« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2008, 02:38:17 PM »
Too bad we didn't elect McCain. Palin would have torn his ass up when he reared his evil head in Alaskan air space! ;D  She can see him from her house!  LOL

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Re: For Russia's Putin, knockabout with Obama is just the ticket
« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2008, 02:57:12 PM »
Good job guys...U elected a guy that the Russkies think is a pussy.




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Re: For Russia's Putin, knockabout with Obama is just the ticket
« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2008, 03:38:10 PM »
On the Internet, Russian bloggers...

I didn't realize red bloggers were a credible source to you.

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Re: For Russia's Putin, knockabout with Obama is just the ticket
« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2008, 04:20:55 PM »
That's the biggest pile of bullshit I've ever read.  I could write anything I want and say "analysts said"  half the puking pile of shit says something and ends it with analysts said... I don't know about you guys but I'm ready to ban these puke ass think tanks.  Bush and the Necons have everything to do with why we're here with Russia.  This has the stink of a neocon somewhere...

changed for the crybabies... please post a link.

http://kdka.com/topstories/barack.obama.dmitry.2.859786.html

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Re: For Russia's Putin, knockabout with Obama is just the ticket
« Reply #12 on: November 10, 2008, 11:48:44 PM »
Yea...

Kick his ass Hugo.... 

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Re: For Russia's Putin, knockabout with Obama is just the ticket
« Reply #13 on: November 11, 2008, 12:10:30 AM »
Yea...

Kick his ass Hugo.... 
I was thinking more along the lines of revoking his daily William Kristol briefings. What would he do... :D  I don't know why I said last warning, overkill I guess.  I just want him to source his material because I like to do a little research on material brought to the board and it makes it harder for those who do when it's brought under an anonymous label.  common courtesy, I just want everyone to post a link/source if they obtained material from somewhere.  I pick on HH6 because he does it often.

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Re: For Russia's Putin, knockabout with Obama is just the ticket
« Reply #16 on: November 11, 2008, 08:47:28 AM »
Can't you just use an old white bedsheet?  ;D

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Re: For Russia's Putin, knockabout with Obama is just the ticket
« Reply #17 on: November 11, 2008, 08:58:03 AM »
russia and iran both laughed......


just knwoing that the president of american has had 3 years of experience in the political system is a slap in the to all politicians around the world who have busted their ass, given up half their life, most have put thier life on the line....to be part of something...

obama is gonna be hated for a longgggg time...countries around the world are going to give him a tought timee....not somethin we need...

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Re: For Russia's Putin, knockabout with Obama is just the ticket
« Reply #18 on: November 11, 2008, 09:57:52 AM »
obama is gonna be hated for a longgggg time...countries around the world are going to give him a tought timee....not somethin we need...
seems to me that above is true for Bush.

Remains to be seen what Obama will bring to the table.
But I have to say that it's pretty disgusting the hate even some of guys on this board displays.
Regardless of what you think of Obama's politics, WTF is up with the hate?
   
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Re: For Russia's Putin, knockabout with Obama is just the ticket
« Reply #19 on: November 11, 2008, 10:01:55 AM »
That's the biggest pile of bullshit I've ever read.  I could write anything I want and say "analysts said"  half the puking pile of shit says something and ends it with analysts said... I don't know about you guys but I'm ready to ban these puke ass think tanks.  Bush and the Necons have everything to do with why we're here with Russia.  This has the stink of a neocon somewhere...

HH6, For the last time, source your copied material please, last warning  

http://kdka.com/topstories/barack.obama.dmitry.2.859786.html

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaa...it wasn't prison planet thats for sure. It was alink off of Drudge. As usual deny ur guy is a fucking idiot and inviting our enemies to attack. Again u guys elected a guy who everybody that counts, thinks is a pussy.
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Re: For Russia's Putin, knockabout with Obama is just the ticket
« Reply #20 on: November 11, 2008, 10:02:11 AM »
That's the biggest pile of bullshit I've ever read.  I could write anything I want and say "analysts said"  half the puking pile of shit says something and ends it with analysts said... I don't know about you guys but I'm ready to ban these puke ass think tanks.  Bush and the Necons have everything to do with why we're here with Russia.  This has the stink of a neocon somewhere...

HH6, For the last time, source your copied material please, last warning  

http://kdka.com/topstories/barack.obama.dmitry.2.859786.html

Half the things on here are opinions, why are you telling him to source his material? What do you mean "last warning"? He is well within the board rules. Stop acting like a dictator on here, last warning.
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Re: For Russia's Putin, knockabout with Obama is just the ticket
« Reply #21 on: November 11, 2008, 10:07:09 AM »
He's whining, not sure why, the glow of the election can't have faded.
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Re: For Russia's Putin, knockabout with Obama is just the ticket
« Reply #22 on: November 11, 2008, 10:08:04 AM »
He's whining, not sure why, the glow of the election can't have faded.

If he talks to you like that I want 240 banned for quoting things he saw on CNN. This is fkn bullshit. I am sick of this whackjob throwing his weight around as a moderator here.
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Re: For Russia's Putin, knockabout with Obama is just the ticket
« Reply #23 on: November 11, 2008, 10:18:27 AM »
If he talks to you like that I want 240 banned for quoting things he saw on CNN. This is fkn bullshit. I am sick of this whackjob throwing his weight around as a moderator here.

The double standard played on here is pathetic. Hugo's pulling a Bluto on here. He spends 20 hours a day posting so he's starting to overstep BB and the other mods trying to establish total dominance over here because they don't have the time nor willpower to post all day to counteract him.

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Re: For Russia's Putin, knockabout with Obama is just the ticket
« Reply #24 on: November 11, 2008, 10:20:44 AM »
The double standard played on here is pathetic. Hugo's pulling a Bluto on here. He spends 20 hours a day posting so he's starting to overstep BB and the other mods trying to establish total dominance over here because they don't have the time nor willpower to post all day to counteract him.

I am calling for him to stand down as a moderator effective immediately. I just found dozens of posts by libs without cited sources, yet he fucks with HH about it. You can't "warn" someone for posting things without sources on here, this board is all about opinions. He needs to be removed, maybe get a job or something. He is no longer needed here.
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