arnies cycle

[Disgusted]

100-200mg of dbol per day?

yes

[Disgusted]

who knows, that might be true

Jim, I remember reading a while back that the guys in the 70's used to take dbol til there piss turned brown ( usually would take about 8 to 10 months straight on it everyday ) then they would take a few weeks off, and start it all over again.

U ever hear anything like this?

No, but the only person I personally know who had problems took 50 mg Dbol daily for about a year but he also drank bout 3 to 5 nights weekly. Some nights he would put away 12 to 24 beers and more than once a week. He finally got jaundice. I also know a guy who took dbol for  over 2 years straight without a problem, but he was not a drinker.

[flexingtonsteele]

At this point you're only one step away from offering to lick his balls and blow his dick.

epic ass kissing.

So if i gave u compliments on the board? Would i be one step away from licking ur nipples and sucking on ur saggy titties?

[Alex23]

So if i gave u compliments on the board? Would i be one step away from licking ur nipples and sucking on ur saggy titties?

Whatever suits you. But if every other post was about brownosing me, I would tell you to back the fuck off...

Maybe" Jimmy" likes it.

[flexingtonsteele]

Whatever suits you. But if every other post was about brownosing me, I would tell you to back the fuck off...

Maybe" Jimmy" likes it.

Hey why dont u get some kleenex and wipe the tears from ur eyes and the snot bubbles from ur nose.

Epic crybaby Stalking.

And im just curious, should I feel honored or scared that u follow me around the board and respond in every thread I post in??? Or should I just tell u to back the fuck off

[Alex23]

Hey why dont u get some kleenex and wipe the tears from ur eyes and the snot bubbles from ur nose.

Epic crybaby Stalking.

HAHAHAHA settle down Mr 37.34234789g of carbs a day @ precisely 3.45hr  intervals with 34.45g of Wax-her-maze exactly 22.45min after your last rep...

[flexingtonsteele]

HAHAHAHA settle down Mr 37.34234789g of carbs a day @ precisely 3.45hr  intervals with 34.45g of Wax-her-maze exactly 22.45min after your last rep...

haha! ur past the point of even deserving a response.

Therefore eat another bag of these tonight and have a good time obsessing.

[Alex23]

haha! ur past the point of even deserving a response.
Therefore eat another bag of these tonight and have a good time obsessing.

So in your head everyone who doesn't eat meal out of tupperware and check their subcue water level every 2 hours, drinks a gallon of water 3xd eats cheetos all night long?

Epic tunnel perspective.

[flexingtonsteele]

So in your head everyone who doesn't eat meal out of tupperware and check their subcue water level every 2 hours, drinks a gallon of water 3xd eats cheetos all night long?

Epic tunnel perspective.

no, but have another one of these.

U know u love it!

[Alex23]

no, but have another one of these.
U know u love it!

You're just redirecting your own obsession on people who eat normally and train hard... I never eat that shit and you know it...


You can't train like a horse and eat like a mouse.....

[GoneAway]

Arnold.

[Alex23]

Arnold.

D-bol.

[MuscleMcMannus]

There are other liabilities with using steroids, in particular dianabol.  I had a that I worked with who was friends with a lot of old time Russian powerlifters.  He said he knew several that had to be catherized on dbol becaue their prostate would swell they used to much of it.  Maybe fiction maybe fact.  Bottomline, dbol can be a harsh drug for many.  Lots of old timers have had strokes, heart attacks etc.  Was it related to steroids?  Maybe, maybe not.  But there are better options than dbol in my opinion.  High dosed anavar, injectable test, to name a few. 

[BIG DUB]

" Of course, in my heyday standards were different. All that professionals deemed necessary to prepare for competition was a 12 week cycle or less of 15mg of Dianabol a day and 100mg of Deca-Durabolin or possibly Pimobolan Depot every 7-10 days. According to an article Ray Mentzer wrote in Muscle Builder/Power detailing his contest preparation, he used even less than that prior to winning the Mr. America title." - Frank Zane quote July 1996 Flex Magazine

[Tapeworm]

" Of course, in my heyday standards were different. All that professionals deemed necessary to prepare for competition was a 12 week cycle or less of 15mg of Dianabol a day and 100mg of Deca-Durabolin or possibly Pimobolan Depot every 7-10 days. According to an article Ray Mentzer wrote in Muscle Builder/Power detailing his contest preparation, he used even less than that prior to winning the Mr. America title." - Frank Zane quote July 1996 Flex Magazine

They're ALL full of shit.

[Canadian_Muscle]

D-bol.

 

[pumpster]

So if i gave u compliments on the board? Would i be one step away from licking ur nipples and sucking on ur saggy titties?

Don't knock "alex's" moobs.

[Disgusted]

They're ALL full of shit.

[BIG DUB]

Mike Christian quotes; Flex Magazine Oct. 1996

" I was taking Anavar, only four or five  a day, two and a half milligrams each. I put on about 10lbs after taking it a month. I won my first show after doing it, then next time i tried injections"

"It was 250mg of Sustanon. I put on another 10lbs from that. Then i did that along with six anavar a day. I put on another 20lbs, but i was very puffy. I was strong. I was very aggressive in the gym."

" I used an eight week cycle for the 1984 Nationals. The first four weeks I would take Sustanon and Primobolan, which are oil based steroids. I also took Dianabol and Anadrol 50, which are in pill form. For instance, i would take 250mg of Sustanon once a week and 10 Dianabol a day. These made me very big, very strong, so i used them to get big. I'd watch my weight just shoot right up 10 - 15lbs. Then the last four weeks before the show, I didn't want the puffy look, I wanted to be ripped and sharp, so i got off the oil-based stuff and just took water-based or fast-releasing stuff like Primobolan Acetate, Anavar, water-based aqueous testosterone and Winstrol-V. Later, I went on 12-week cycles and divided the same process six and six"

[Disgusted]

Mike Christian quotes; Flex Magazine Oct. 1996

" I was taking Anavar, only four or five  a day, two and a half milligrams each. I put on about 10lbs after taking it a month. I won my first show after doing it, then next time i tried injections"

"It was 250mg of Sustanon. I put on another 10lbs from that. Then i did that along with six anavar a day. I put on another 20lbs, but i was very puffy. I was strong. I was very aggressive in the gym."

" I used an eight week cycle for the 1984 Nationals. The first four weeks I would take Sustanon and Primobolan, which are oil based steroids. I also took Dianabol and Anadrol 50, which are in pill form. For instance, i would take 250mg of Sustanon once a week and 10 Dianabol a day. These made me very big, very strong, so i used them to get big. I'd watch my weight just shoot right up 10 - 15lbs. Then the last four weeks before the show, I didn't want the puffy look, I wanted to be ripped and sharp, so i got off the oil-based stuff and just took water-based or fast-releasing stuff like Primobolan Acetate, Anavar, water-based aqueous testosterone and Winstrol-V. Later, I went on 12-week cycles and divided the same process six and six"

Guess  he was concerned about his health enough that he didn't want to go any higher. 

[honest]

" Of course, in my heyday standards were different. All that professionals deemed necessary to prepare for competition was a 12 week cycle or less of 15mg of Dianabol a day and 100mg of Deca-Durabolin or possibly Pimobolan Depot every 7-10 days. According to an article Ray Mentzer wrote in Muscle Builder/Power detailing his contest preparation, he used even less than that prior to winning the Mr. America title." - Frank Zane quote July 1996 Flex Magazine

Zane ive been told by old timers was a very scientific guy when it came to gear, was one of the first to push the envelope even if his physique didnt show it in terms of mass, the thing is back in their day, they didnt take test, only anabolics and you can take a shitload without getting VISABLE side effects like when you take test and such, Mentzer i wouldnt believe, how can a guy who drank and methed himself to his suicide bed, say he used small quanitities of steroids, bodybuilders are full of shit. especially the old ones, hang on thats me.  

[flexingtonsteele]

Zane ive been told by old timers was a very scientific guy when it came to gear, was one of the first to push the envelope even if his physique didnt show it in terms of mass, the thing is back in their day, they didnt take test, only anabolics and you can take a shitload without getting VISABLE side effects like when you take test and such, Mentzer i wouldnt believe, how can a guy who drank and methed himself to his suicide bed, say he used small quanitities of steroids, bodybuilders are full of shit. especially the old ones, hang on thats me. 

Truth!

[BIG DUB]

Philip Goglia qoutes; Aug. 1996 Flex Magazine

"Over the years, my drug use escalated dramatically. Here are two stacks: an early cycle and one of my final cycles."

Early Cycle: (1981)
Dianabol
Testosterone cypionate
Deca-Durabolin
Total: Approx. 740-880mg per week

Late cycle: (1995)
Laurobolin
Primobolan Depot
Anadrol
Androxin
Depo Sterona
Testovis
Testosterone Cypionate
Clenbuterol
Total: Approx. 5000mg per week
Plus:
HGH (Lilly); Cytomel; ACThar; Insulin

[Disgusted]

Philip Goglia qoutes; Aug. 1996 Flex Magazine

"Over the years, my drug use escalated dramatically. Here are two stacks: an early cycle and one of my final cycles."

Early Cycle: (1981)
Dianabol
Testosterone cypionate
Deca-Durabolin
Total: Approx. 740-880mg per week

Late cycle: (1995)
Laurobolin
Primobolan Depot
Anadrol
Androxin
Depo Sterona
Testovis
Testosterone Cypionate
Clenbuterol
Total: Approx. 5000mg per week
Plus:
HGH (Lilly); Cytomel; ACThar; Insulin

I believe this, but I will explain later (too lengthy goin to bed) as to why I like the first one better and I'll bet he looked better in the 80's also.

[Viking11]

Truth!

  Mike never used nearly as much as you guys might think. He started at age 20, and had already won Mr Pennsylvania and placed 10 th in the 71 Mr A.  Check out the pic on the Mentzer thread when he was only 15.  Genetics.  Mike Christian was probably the same. He also abused other drugs, too. Incidently, the one time I saw Mike drink, it was a glass of wine. I definitely outdrank him at his New Years Party, of course he had the flu or something and wasn't drinking much, so I had the upper hand, lol.