proviron over tamoxy?

[Big Dave.]

When i come to start my cycle which will including Test Prop EOD, Primo EOD and poss Equipoise. I was thinking of using Proviron if i do is there any need to use Tamoxys? any help would be great.

[4thAD]

You might still need nolvadex. The provirion should help keep you dry and gyno free, but will work no where near as good as an ai, or nolvadex. Keep the nolvadex on hand just in case.

[DIVISION]

You might still need nolvadex. The provirion should help keep you dry and gyno free, but will work no where near as good as an ai, or nolvadex. Keep the nolvadex on hand just in case.

For a bodybuilder Proviron is great, but it's best when used in combination with an AI.



DIV

[dustin]

Good substitute for nolva but NOT a replacement by any means. Some people gawk and laugh at people that use proviron but I say they're elitists. SBHG was so high on previous cycles, now at 50mg of proviron each day it REALLY feels like I'm on sauce. I'm pissed that I never used it before.

[DIVISION]

Good substitute for nolva but NOT a replacement by any means. Some people gawk and laugh at people that use proviron but I say they're elitists. SBHG was so high on previous cycles, now at 50mg of proviron each day it REALLY feels like I'm on sauce. I'm pissed that I never used it before.

If you're using low-dose amounts in your cycle, adding Proviron will make a difference, but if you're megadosing, you probably won't notice any discernable effect.



DIV

[dustin]

If you're using low-dose amounts in your cycle, adding Proviron will make a difference, but if you're megadosing, you probably won't notice any discernable effect.



DIV

I always use low doses because I can get away with it... when I ran higher doses and got blood work, SBHG was so high I might as well have been completely off cycle. But for the most part, you're right. If SHBG gets out of hand even at higher doses of AAS, a little proviron could go a long way.

I know some people scoff at it but hey... if it works, it works. It's usually cheap enough too.

[4thAD]

I absolutely love provirion. Keeps the sex drive through the roof, and keeps me dry. Before Provirion I needed an AI just when running replacement doses. Now I have no need for the AI. Keeps the sore puffy nips down to normal.

[Big Dave.]

I normally have 50mg a day....2 x 25mg tablets in the morning. Thats what ive always been told to take! How does that compare to everyone else's dose???
so from what everyone has said i should use Provirion and keep the Tamoxy's incase i feel i need it yea?!
Thanks all!!

[DIVISION]

I absolutely love provirion. Keeps the sex drive through the roof, and keeps me dry. Before Provirion I needed an AI just when running replacement doses. Now I have no need for the AI. Keeps the sore puffy nips down to normal.

You actually get "sore puffy nips"?

I've never had that whether running an AI or not.....

This is one side I don't get.

Do the nips actually feel "sore"?   



DIV

[4thAD]

You actually get "sore puffy nips"?

I've never had that whether running an AI or not.....

This is one side I don't get.

Do the nips actually feel "sore"?   



DIV

Oh hell yeah kinda of a deep ache. Its not a good feeling. I'm pretty gyno prone if I'm not careful. I dont have lumps, but get sore as hell and kinda puffy.

[dustin]

I've had that sore feeling as well. It comes and goes. I can push my chest and it will be achy and painful as 4thAD described. But when I try to reproduce the pains it's not there... sort of strange. I too need to tackle my body with AIs to keep my chest from bloating. I have very little body fat. It accumulates damn near exclusively over my abs and a tiny bit surrounding my nipples.

Used proviron during this cycle and it really kept things at bay. I think my arimidex is underdosed though. Cabergoline got seized from multiple sources and other dudes were out, so I had to blast 2mg of arimidex ED with 50mg of proviron. Taking only 1mg of arimidex and 50mg of proviron and libido is through the roof. When I took orals that raised progesterone and prolactin in the past it affected my sex drive badly. Even taking Karachi Sustanon (droooool) and EQ I had to employ two post cycle therapies to help with libido. I only got a soft dick twice but got it up and finished the deed. Still scary as FUCK when you're in your early 20s. Proviron is a God send. Using it in future cycles for sure. So many dudes in town scoff at it and say it's a weak, newb steroid and that I should just bomb grams of test. Jesus fuck....