What same-sex "marriage" has done to Mass.- It's far worse than most people real

[Grape Ape]

The problem with this is they are teaching and promoting behavior that has no place in a young persons life...2nd graders, are you kidding me?

Imagine it, if there was literature being handed out on how to properly fuck your girlfriend doggy style or how to make 69ing more exciting with your boy friend or girlfriend, if there was heterosexual literature like this being taught in the schools parents would be outraged...as well they should be. There are things that are appropriate in life at a certain age, and things that are not. Taking away a child's innocence is not appropriate. There is no need for it and this type of thing only leads to the degradation of a child's mind.

Agreed.  I haven't heard of that shit being pulled in our schools, but if I did I would be involved quickly.  Let kids be friggin' kids.

Mike, I live in Mass and, believe me, this state can be like living on another planet at times.  But to say homosexuality is a choices is just plain wrong.  Maybe in extreme cases of abuse or something, but it's not a choice.  Mindspin put it well.

[headhuntersix]

If u want to suck cock fine....buttfuck a moose...fine. But my child does not need to know about it, nor does he need to know how his male teacher pile drives his wife. Why the hell is that in the class room period. Gays assume we give a shit about what they do. I could care less, just don't do it near me, don't bring an agenda nor waste valuable school time teaching how the best way to put a strap-on..on is. Does anybody think the Chinese or Indians are teaching this to the millions of engineers and nuclear scientists they're attemtping to churn out.

[timfogarty]

Imagine it, if there was literature being handed out on how to properly fuck your girlfriend doggy style or how to make 69ing more exciting with your boy friend or girlfriend, if there was heterosexual literature like this being taught in the schools parents would be outraged...as well they should be.

and nothing like that is happening to grade school children about homosexuality.   the only thing that kids are being exposed to is that sometimes two men are a family, and sometimes two women are a family.  sometimes those families have kids too.

[Straw Man]

civil unions = marriage

we can settle this right here on GetBig.com

straights should take civil unions and give the gays marriage

I used to play a lot of chess and I would sometimes offer my opponents (especially if I was begging them to play)  the option of reversing sides one time during the game if they wanted

there were plenty of times that I lost but it was always fun to be handed a new set of circumstances and still try to win

I think the uber-christain straights should do the same thing

let's face it, straight marriage directly leads to gay marriage and gay marriage slowly erodes the sanctity of straight marriage

we're fucked either way

[Arnold jr]

and nothing like that is happening to grade school children about homosexuality.   the only thing that kids are being exposed to is that sometimes two men are a family, and sometimes two women are a family.  sometimes those families have kids too.

The very first post in this thread, the whole point of this thread was to acknowledge that explicit sexual behavior of the homosexual nature was being taught in public schools to children. And this is not new news...this has been one of the major problems parents are having who have school age children where the gay marriage idea has been labeled acceptable.

[garebear]

civil unions = marriage

we can settle this right here on GetBig.com

straights should take civil unions and give the gays marriage

I used to play a lot of chess and I would sometimes offer my opponents (especially if I was begging them to play)  the option of reversing sides one time during the game if they wanted

there were plenty of times that I lost but it was always fun to be handed a new set of circumstances and still try to win

I think the uber-christain straights should do the same thing

let's face it, straight marriage directly leads to gay marriage and gay marriage slowly erodes the sanctity of straight marriage

we're fucked either way

I used to love chess. Now it gives me a headache.

[MindSpin]

I think that is hillarious and quite ignorant as well...I have nothing against homosexuals, Ive had gay friends and wish them nothing but the best. I will not vote however for a redefinition of marriage, marriage is a religious institution and not up to the government to redefine. If they want to create civil unions i am all for that i want them to have the same rights straight ppl do and I will vote for that any day.

You nailed it my friend!  Marriage should be a religious institution, not something for the government to define.  However, that is NOT what is happening now.  By Prop 8 passing, the government has ruled that Churches are not allowed to marry gay couples.  Had it not passed, Churches would have had the freedom to decide if they wanted to marry gay couples.  They would NOT have been obligated to do so...they simply would have had the option.

[MindSpin]

If u want to suck cock fine....buttfuck a moose...fine. But my child does not need to know about it, nor does he need to know how his male teacher pile drives his wife. Why the hell is that in the class room period. Gays assume we give a shit about what they do. I could care less, just don't do it near me, don't bring an agenda nor waste valuable school time teaching how the best way to put a strap-on..on is. Does anybody think the Chinese or Indians are teaching this to the millions of engineers and nuclear scientists they're attemtping to churn out.

Why do you think that kids are being given instructions on how to butt fuck or fuzz bump?  That is not happening now nor are homos asking that it be allowed....

[MindSpin]

The very first post in this thread, the whole point of this thread was to acknowledge that explicit sexual behavior of the homosexual nature was being taught in public schools to children. And this is not new news...this has been one of the major problems parents are having who have school age children where the gay marriage idea has been labeled acceptable.

I live in CA and have a kindergartner & 2nd grader.  Neither has been exposed to ANY type of sex ed.  I would be very upset if they were regardless if it were gay shit or not.

[Dos Equis]

I live in CA and have a kindergartner & 2nd grader.  Neither has been exposed to ANY type of sex ed.  I would be very upset if they were regardless if it were gay shit or not.

You must not live in Hayward.  http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=243895.0

Not sure how you explain this "pledge" to a kindergartner without explaining what "lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender" means.

[drkaje]

You must not live in Hayward.  http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=243895.0

Not sure how you explain this "pledge" to a kindergartner without explaining what "lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender" means.

When are people going to stop pretending this is just about marriage?

civil unions = marriage

we can settle this right here on GetBig.com

straights should take civil unions and give the gays marriage

I used to play a lot of chess and I would sometimes offer my opponents (especially if I was begging them to play)  the option of reversing sides one time during the game if they wanted

there were plenty of times that I lost but it was always fun to be handed a new set of circumstances and still try to win

I think the uber-christain straights should do the same thing

let's face it, straight marriage directly leads to gay marriage and gay marriage slowly erodes the sanctity of straight marriage

we're fucked either way

Can a Union be ended without a lawyer and losing half your stuff?

If so. Count me in.

[MindSpin]

You must not live in Hayward.  http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=243895.0

Not sure how you explain this "pledge" to a kindergartner without explaining what "lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender" means.

Ha!  That's fooked up.  I would not want my kids being asked to sign that.  Not because I am a homophob, but I want to be the one that explains these types of issues to my kids.

[Deicide]

If u want to suck cock fine....buttfuck a moose...fine. But my child does not need to know about it, nor does he need to know how his male teacher pile drives his wife. Why the hell is that in the class room period. Gays assume we give a shit about what they do. I could care less, just don't do it near me, don't bring an agenda nor waste valuable school time teaching how the best way to put a strap-on..on is. Does anybody think the Chinese or Indians are teaching this to the millions of engineers and nuclear scientists they're attemtping to churn out.

Good point. American Education is really in the gutter...

[Deedee]

I think that is hillarious and quite ignorant as well...I have nothing against homosexuals, Ive had gay friends and wish them nothing but the best. I will not vote however for a redefinition of marriage, marriage is a religious institution and not up to the government to redefine. If they want to create civil unions i am all for that i want them to have the same rights straight ppl do and I will vote for that any day.

You could not be more wrong. Marriage is a union conferred by the state, awarding kinship rights to two unrelated people. It is not a religious transaction.

In the beginning, marriage was the transfer of property/woman, from father to husband. Later it became a sharing of wealth through clan/family unions. Marriage has been around since before the Abrahamic religions and was always a business agreement, up until lately when we began to marry for love.

If you wish to be married you can do so without any religious interference at all, simply by taking a trip down to city hall. However, if you wish to have a religious embellishment to the union, you can, but first you have to purchase the license from the state.

[MCWAY]

You could not be more wrong. Marriage is a union conferred by the state, awarding kinship rights to two unrelated people. It is not a religious transaction.

In the beginning, marriage was the transfer of property/woman, from father to husband. Later it became a sharing of wealth through clan/family unions. Marriage has been around since before the Abrahamic religions and was always a business agreement, up until lately when we began to marry for love.

If you wish to be married you can do so without any religious interference at all, simply by taking a trip down to city hall. However, if you wish to have a religious embellishment to the union, you can, but first you have to purchase the license from the state.

What you say is true......to a degree. Marriage was about business in many aspects. But, I disagree with you about "until lately when we began to marry for love". Love has always been part of marriage, for the most part. It just wasn't the driving force, behind it. I've said this before; but, to borrow a verse from an old song, "Your love gives me such a thrill; but your love don't pay my bills"

Material care was top priority, especially when it came to women. So was financial compensation for the family of the bride (hence the reason for the dowry).

It's safe to say that, if two youngsters fell in love and wanted to get hitched, they politicked with their respective parents to seal the deal. A guy, sprung over his girl, undoubtedly bugged dear old Dad to cough up some cattle, with a chicken thrown in for good measure, to get the girl of his dreams.

[bigdumbbell]

I think its funny that whenever somebody is against gay marriage you assume there afraid of homosexuals.


Being gay is a lifestyle choice and so is being a petafile. So should we would also start having petafiles going to schools explaining how its ok and acceptable?

I dont care who is gay. But do not bring it into public schools, and force my kid to listen to how great being gay is.

Marriage is between a man and a woman period, and the majority of U.S. agrees.

what is a petafile?  are u even an American?

[Deedee]

What you say is true......to a degree. Marriage was about business in many aspects. But, I disagree with you about "until lately when we began to marry for love". Love has always been part of marriage, for the most part. It just wasn't the driving force, behind it. I've said this before; but, to borrow a verse from an old song, "Your love gives me such a thrill; but your love don't pay my bills"

Material care was top priority, especially when it came to women. So was financial compensation for the family of the bride (hence the reason for the dowry).

It's safe to say that, if two youngsters fell in love and wanted to get hitched, they politicked with their respective parents to seal the deal. A guy, sprung over his girl, undoubtedly bugged dear old Dad to cough up some cattle, with a chicken thrown in for good measure, to get the girl of his dreams.

Have you ever read "The Age of Innocence"? Edith Wharton.

MCWAY, I'm gonna disagree with you back a little.  If two families were poorer than dust on the ground, it probably was easier for kids who loved each other to get hitched. But if the boy's family had an extra goat, and the girl's had an influential elder, chances are they'd be shoved into matrimony even if both loved others. Twas just the way it was. Up until maybe the 1930's and post-war?

Love has always been around, but all the reams and reams of poetry and literature we've inherited, shows mostly it was unrequited. Old Celtic songs are filled with girls throwing themselves into the river, and boys pining away. John Donne... oy. People married through arrangement, and few really expected to marry whomever they loved. Love was something of dreams.

I think back in the days of yore, it was easier to marry the one you loved, if you got in the family way. (If the families didn't kill you first.) 

[MCWAY]

Have you ever read "The Age of Innocence"? Edith Wharton.

MCWAY, I'm gonna disagree with you back a little.  If two families were poorer than dust on the ground, it probably was easier for kids who loved each other to get hitched. But if the boy's family had an extra goat, and the girl's had an influential elder, chances are they'd be shoved into matrimony even if both loved others. Twas just the way it was. Up until maybe the 1930's and post-war?

Love has always been around, but all the reams and reams of poetry and literature we've inherited, shows mostly it was unrequited. Old Celtic songs are filled with girls throwing themselves into the river, and boys pining away. John Donne... oy. People married through arrangement, and few really expected to marry whomever they loved. Love was something of dreams.

I think back in the days of yore, it was easier to marry the one you loved, if you got in the family way. (If the families didn't kill you first.) 

You'll get no argument from me on that one, Deedee. I simply pointed out that arranged marriages weren't necessarly loveless ones.

[24KT]

I think back in the days of yore, it was easier to marry the one you loved, if you got in the family way.
(If the families didn't kill you first.) 

So what you're saying is that back in the old days... abortion killed both the fetus AND the mother?
hmmmm ...perhaps maybe, do you think that's why they made it legal... to avoid the death to the mother?

[www.BrinkZone.com]

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Anyone who thinks that same-sex “marriage” is a benign eccentricity which won’t affect the average person should consider what it has done in Massachusetts.

OMG, they are teaching equality! That's terrible, save the children, and all that BS. Nothing changed here in MA other then the fact two people of the same sex can now do the same stupid stuff the rest of us can do: get married, get divorced, and waste a lot of $$$ between the two. Terrorism, poverty, crime, nuclear waste, etc, etc. and THIS is the topic some people are willing to worry about? They need to get a life. Pitiful...