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« on: November 17, 2008, 08:29:22 PM »
LAPD Treat Gay Marriage Protests With Kid Gloves
Posted By Jack Dunphy
November 17, 2008
pamajasmedia.com


The first paragraph of the [1] Law Enforcement Code of Ethics reads as follows: “As a law enforcement officer, my fundamental duty is to serve the community; to safeguard lives and property; to protect the innocent against deception, the weak against oppression or intimidation and the peaceful against violence or disorder; and to respect the constitutional rights of all to liberty, equality and justice.”

These are noble ideals, but here in Los Angeles we have seen once again that noble ideals can be trumped by the demands of politics, which are often not so noble.

Witness the furor that has erupted following the November 4 passage of California’s Proposition 8, a referendum that amended the state’s constitution so as to read that “
  • nly marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California.”  In approving the proposition, the voters of California affirmed the meaning of marriage as it had been understood for millennia until May of this year, when four members of the California Supreme Court rummaged through all those emanations and penumbras that only liberals can claim to detect in written documents, miraculously finding therein the right for same-sex couples to marry.


Angered by this expression of the will of the voters and the repudiation of an activist court, advocates for same-sex marriage have taken to the streets in Los Angeles, venting their outrage at what they describe as “hate” on the part of those who voted in favor of the proposition.

The protests thus far have come in the form of impromptu marches down various thoroughfares, disrupting traffic and raising a minor ruckus here and there.  Los Angeles Police Department officers have arrested a handful of protesters, but most of the marchers have been voicing their opinions loudly but peacefully nearly every day since the election.

But even peaceful demonstrations can be disruptive to a community, and it’s been disheartening to witness the lengths to which the management of the LAPD has acquiesced to the disorder engendered by these protests.

Police officers have requested that marchers not block traffic, but when these requests have been ignored, police commanders prohibited officers from taking any action to restore order.  Thus in parts of Hollywood and West Los Angeles, where afternoon commutes can be hellish on the best of days, drivers unfortunate enough to be caught in any of these protests have found themselves helplessly delayed as marchers flooded into the streets, even as dozens of LAPD officers looked on from nearby waiting for orders that never came.

Had the protesters organized a march and sought the proper permits, Los Angeles mayor Antonio Villaraigosa, LAPD chief William Bratton, the city council, the police commission, indeed the entire municipal apparatus, nearly all of whose members are left-leaning and sympathetic to the same-sex marriage cause, would have moved heaven and earth to accommodate them, bringing large sections of the city to a halt if necessary, just as they have done to facilitate large-scale marches on behalf of another politically favored group, illegal aliens.

It’s interesting to note that the Los Angeles protests have been confined to such liberal enclaves as Hollywood and the West Side, where Proposition 8 was [2] roundly rejected by the voters.  If the marchers were intent on truly facing their opposition, they might take their activities to the, shall we say, grittier neighborhoods of South Central and East L.A., where it passed by wide margins.  I suspect that drivers in those neighborhoods would not be so impassive upon finding their cars surrounded by people shrieking at them for being “hateful,” and that the marchers would welcome the LAPD’s assistance in escaping to the more hospitable zip codes whence they came.

The judicial creation of same-sex marriage has thus far been rejected by every American electorate to have considered the issue, but public opinion, at least in California, has been shifting.  In 2000, California voters passed Proposition 22, which enacted a state law defining marriage as between one man and one woman.  That initiative passed by a landslide, with a 61-39 margin.  Proposition 8 passed by only a 52-48 margin, but the continuing antics of the protesters are doing little to change hearts and minds.

The dispute now returns predictably to the courts; three [3] lawsuits have been filed in the hope of seeing the measure invalidated.  The governments of both the city and county of Los Angeles have endorsed this effort, and Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger, a Catholic who twice vetoed legislation authorizing same-sex marriage, has demonstrated what is, even for him, an astonishing elasticity of conviction by [4] voicing his support for those hoping to see Proposition 8 overturned.

Until the matter is resolved (isn’t that what the election was for?), be careful where you drive in Los Angeles.  And if you should find yourself impeded in your travels by same-sex marriage advocates roaming willy-nilly in the streets, don’t expect the police to do anything about it.

Article printed from Pajamas Media: http://pajamasmedia.com

URL to article: http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/lapd-treating-prop-8-protests-with-kid-gloves/

URLs in this post:
[1] Law Enforcement Code of Ethics: http://iacp.org/documents/index.cfm?document_id=95&document_type_id=1&fuseaction=document
[2] roundly rejected: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2008/11/prop-8-backers.html
[3] lawsuits: http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-gaylegal6-2008nov06,0,220763.story
[4] voicing his support: http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-prop815-2008nov15,0,897834.story

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Re: Sore Losers
« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2008, 09:01:16 PM »
Hear hear.

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« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2008, 09:02:22 PM »
Serious Question

Who's rights should we take away next?

I'm thinking Muslim

No one can deny that being Muslim is a choice

who's with me?

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« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2008, 09:03:35 PM »
Serious Question

Who's rights should we take away next?

I'm thinking Muslim

No one can deny that being Muslim is a choice

who's with me?

Oh fuck, here we go again....

Gays did not have tights taken away.

They retain the same rights as everyone else.

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« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2008, 09:04:48 PM »
Serious Question

Who's rights should we take away next?

I'm thinking Muslim

No one can deny that being Muslim is a choice

who's with me?
I'd like to take away the illegal aliens rights, so we can send them back instead of putting water troughs in the middle of the desert so they don't gehydrate. ::)
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« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2008, 09:06:00 PM »
Illegals have no rights once they cross that border.

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« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2008, 09:06:40 PM »
Oh fuck, here we go again....

Gays did not have tights taken away.

They retain the same rights as everyone else.

gays have the same statutory rights as heterosexual couples?

so you agree with the CA Supreme Court Ruling on Prop 22?

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« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2008, 09:10:36 PM »
I don't understand why they won't settle for their own kind of civil union?  ???

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« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2008, 09:12:35 PM »
I don't understand why they won't settle for their own kind of civil union?  ???



equal but separate

or vice versa

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« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2008, 09:14:03 PM »
equal but separate
Sounds good to me, and apparently the majority of Californians. :)
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« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2008, 09:16:27 PM »
Sounds good to me, and apparently the majority of Californians. :)

like I said

who's rights should we take away next?

I vote for people who choose to be Muslim

do you agree or disagree?

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« Reply #11 on: November 17, 2008, 09:24:37 PM »
like I said

who's rights should we take away next

I vote for people who choose to be Muslim

do you agree or disagree?
I voted for illegal aliens.

Muslims can wait until the illegals are dealt with.
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« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2008, 09:35:39 PM »
like I said

who's rights should we take away next

I vote for people who choose to be Muslim

do you agree or disagree?

A majority of Americans consider Marriage to be a union between a man and a woman.  It's that simple, homosexual couples deserve all the rights traditional married couples are awarded, but they need to come up with their own union.  Not "Marriage"

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« Reply #13 on: November 17, 2008, 09:58:15 PM »
If they described it as "Ooblinage" and had some Earth ceremony would they be granted all the traditional rights married couples have or would the same group of people go after them on that?

HAHA, you got me  ;D
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« Reply #14 on: November 17, 2008, 10:00:40 PM »
If they described it as "Ooblinage" and had some Earth ceremony would they be granted all the traditional rights married couples have or would the same group of people go after them on that?

Honestly, I don't think people would mind. 

I think the majority of people just don't want them to be "married".

http://www.hulu.com/watch/43974/the-colbert-report-proposition-8-protests---dan-savage
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« Reply #15 on: November 17, 2008, 10:05:31 PM »
people who choose to be Muslim are making a choice that can only lead to eternal suffering and we (as a country) legitimize their choice by pretending it's equal to the 80/90% of this country (according to some people here) who know that accepting jesus as your personal saviour is the one and only true release from being to condemned to an eternity of unimaginable torture

it's also an insult to jesus and we should not allow it to exist in our country

it really is our duty to vote away the rights of people to choose to be muslim and stop pretending it's equal to our understanding of god and the ultimate mystery of reality

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« Reply #16 on: November 17, 2008, 10:05:42 PM »
I've said it before, they'll just keep whining and whining until they get what they want, that's how it works. Bitch, piss, moan until the government steps in (again) and tells them it's OK, regardless of what the majority of the voters want.

Besides, if I were to organize a "straight white male pride" parade, I would be a racist and a bigot.......but blacks can organize "million man marches" and gays have their parades every other weekend, flaunting their sexuality.


But it's all OK, the straight white man is suppose to keep his mouth shut because it's "equal".......
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« Reply #17 on: November 17, 2008, 10:10:39 PM »
I've said it before, they'll just keep whining and whining until they get what they want, that's how it works. Bitch, piss, moan until the government steps in (again) and tells them it's OK, regardless of what the majority of the voters want.

Besides, if I were to organize a "straight white male pride" parade, I would be a racist and a bigot.......but blacks can organize "million man marches" and gays have their parades every other weekend, flaunting their sexuality.


But it's all OK, the straight white man is suppose to keep his mouth shut because it's "equal".......

dude, I agree with you

who is next in line?

surely there must be some minority group whose rights should subject to the will of a majority vote

we are NOT all equal

how about the jews?

or maybe just those people who choose to convert to Judaism?


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« Reply #18 on: November 17, 2008, 10:11:40 PM »
Poster on a body building forum railing against gay rights - almost oxymoronic  :P

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« Reply #19 on: November 17, 2008, 10:12:17 PM »
dude, I agree with you

who is next in line?

surely there must be some minority group whose rights should subject to the will of a majority vote

we are NOT all equal

how about the jews?

or maybe just those people who choose to convert to Judaism?


WTF, how many times do I have to tell you?

ILLEGAL ALIENS ARE NEXT ON THE LIST!!!
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« Reply #20 on: November 17, 2008, 10:20:41 PM »
WTF, how many times do I have to tell you?

ILLEGAL ALIENS ARE NEXT ON THE LIST!!!

so what do illegal aliens (human beings who reside in our country illegally) have in common with legal residents also happen to be  gay and want to exercise their right to get married

do illegal aliens have all the same rights as legal citizens?

if so, then we should definitely vote to take away those rights

I see your point

tell me more

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« Reply #21 on: November 17, 2008, 10:59:02 PM »
so what do illegal aliens (human beings who reside in our country illegally) have in common with legal residents also happen to be  gay and want to exercise their right to get married

do illegal aliens have all the same rights as legal citizens?
if so, then we should definitely vote to take away those rights

I see your point

tell me more

No dipshit.... 

I already told you, illegals have NO rights once they cross that border.

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« Reply #22 on: November 18, 2008, 06:12:01 AM »
No dipshit.... 

I already told you, illegals have NO rights once they cross that border.

so then we can't actually vote their rights away like we did with gay people

right dipshit?

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« Reply #23 on: November 18, 2008, 08:13:45 AM »
No, actually since illegals don't have any inherant rights, anytime we vote on them, we are actually voting to grant them SPECIAL rights,

much like we are always voting for with the gays.

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« Reply #24 on: November 18, 2008, 08:15:45 AM »
At first I thought this was about the election.