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[NarcissisticDeity]

Great another dorian vs ronnie thread with the very same morons that spent the last 3-4 years daily debating it before...

This coming from the idiot who created the same dumb thread " Dorian trained harder than Ronnie " again 

you're a hypocrite and a dummy , see backfire and then fail

[Bluto]

This coming from the idiot who created the same dumb thread " Dorian trained harder than Ronnie " again 

you're a hypocrite and a dummy , see backfire and then fail

Yeah I made a couple of threads about that... outta the 2000+ threads I've made... and yeah I've made a few dozens posts of it... outta the 32000+ posts I've made... but did I debate it daily for years and years? Nah. Did 99% of my posts be about it? Nah.

I guess I don't win the retard-award after all... I guess you did, along with Hulkster and Pumpster 

Can't we have just ONE retard-free day on here? Where you guys dont post about Ronnie vs Dorian, is that asking too much?

[Camel Jockey]

3 Mutants, each with a back that could block out the sun.

Dorian picture is shopped.

[Hulkster]

Dorian picture is shopped.

as always with these idiots...

they always shop dorian pics when comparing them to a peak Ronnie

its the only chance dcorian has..

[NarcissisticDeity]

as always with these idiots...

they always shop dorian pics when comparing them to a peak Ronnie

its the only chance dcorian has..

lmfao coming from the MASTER of photoshopped pics

exposed by one of the best contest photographers in the sport's history lol he even called you a retard something I knew all along , it's pretty bad when professionals expose your desperation & ignorance lol

you never recovered

[NarcissisticDeity]

Dorian wasn't even a pro yet and already had a better back than Ronnie

[Hulkster]

ND is still bitter about Ronnie 99 completely crushing dorian's best ever 1993 shape lat spread:

poor ND.

[Hulkster]

ND you once commented that the shot of ronnie 99 doing the lat spread reminded you of the great Lee Haney.

well it should

because ronnie's 99 lat spread beats anything dorian ever presented, and guess what? Lee Haney also beat dorian in 1991..

[NarcissisticDeity]

ND is still bitter about Ronnie 99 completely crushing dorian's best ever 1993 shape lat spread:

poor ND.

his best ever? not quote but easily better than Ronnie's , Dorian harder & drier two parts of the judging criteria Ronnie could NEVER EVER beat Dorian in no matter what year and what contest , then there is balance & proportion , oppppssss Dorian Ronnie , hey how about posing & presentation? HA HA AHA muscular bulk? where according to the IFBB judging criteria is Ronnie beating him? please explain


he's not and never could , and 1999 is a joke youre the only one who cares about it lol

[NarcissisticDeity]

ND you once commented that the shot of ronnie 99 doing the lat spread reminded you of the great Lee Haney.

well it should

because ronnie's 99 lat spread beats anything dorian ever presented, and guess what? Lee Haney also beat dorian in 1991..

That's a very good front latspread FOR Ronnie , and Mike Quinn said at the 1991 Mr Olympia that Yates now destroys Haney in the front latspread 

you have to recall Hulkster all rounds are physique rounds , so please explain to me using the IFBB judging criteria where Ronnie beats Dorian in this pose and good luck

[Hulkster]

, so please explain to me using the IFBB judging criteria where Ronnie beats Dorian in this pose and good luck

quite easy actually:

equal lats
smaller waist therefore better taper
pecs have 1000x more detail

so do arms/delt (with better shape, better vascularity, better size)

quads - total destruction - way better sweep, detail, delination etc

dorian has the better calves.

thats it

its not even close ND.

even a blind fool like yourself should be able to see this..

dorian has a better front lat spread, but only from the knees down LOL

[NeoSeminole]

Seriously this back lacks nothing

lame attempt at trying to pass off your opinion as fact. Dorian's back lacks the width (depending on year), symmetry, taper, and fullness of Ronnie's. You say Dorian's back lacks nothing as if there was no room for improvement, which I just demonstrated is not true.

[Mr.1derful]

One of Dorian's lats is thicker than both of Ronnie's in those front lat spread shots.   

[m8]

Dorian's back lacks the width

LMAO.

[NeoSeminole]

LMAO.

yes, so funny.

what's amusing is you think Dorian was just as wide as a 290 lbs Ronnie despite weighing 30 lbs less.

[Mr.1derful]

I'm sorry, but Ronnie's additional mass does not give him the better developed back.  Dorian's is clearly better conditioned and has more complete development. Everyone likes to quote Ronnie's increased bodyweight as if it is a basis for concluding  improvement.  In size perhaps, but he lost a lot of detail along the way. Dorian's lats insert lower and are more flared and developed.  His lower back is also more developed and crisp and his traps have greater width.  Ronnie is heavier, but the sport of bodybuilding is not determined by the scale.

December 2, 2008 on Ironage.us:  Shawn Perine of Flex Magazine states: "Ronnie's back eclipsed Yates' in terms of sheer size, but when it comes to density and detail, Dorian reigns supreme."[/i]

[NeoSeminole]

I'm sorry, but Ronnie's additional mass does not give him the better developed back.  Dorian's is clearly better conditioned and has more complete development. Everyone likes to quote Ronnie's increased bodyweight as if it is a basis for concluding  improvement.  In size perhaps, but he lost a lot of detail along the way. Dorian's lats insert lower and are more flared and developed.  His lower back is also more developed and crisp and his traps have greater width.  Ronnie is heavier, but the sport of bodybuilding is not determined by the scale.

I never said Ronnie's back was better solely b/c of additional mass. I've always maintained that Ronnie's combination of muscular bulk, symmetry, definition, shape, taper, and fullness surpass Dorian's. While Dorian's back displayed more definition, he sacrificed muscle fullness as a result. Ronnie's back is much thicker from the rear. This is especially apparent in the back double biceps pose. Dorian's back looks flat as a pancake compared to Ronnie. Dorian has more complete development? If by "more complete," you mean small upper traps, thin lower back, ugly bacne and loose folds of skin, then I agree. Lower attaching lats? The difference is only 1 cm. By the way, you meant to say his lats originate - not insert- lower. For someone who tries to come across as intelligent, you should at least educate yourself about anatomy terminology before judging physiques.

[NeoSeminole]

December 2, 2008 on Ironage.us: Shawn Perine of Flex Magazine states:"Ronnie's back eclipsed Yates' in terms of sheer size, but when it comes to density and detail, Dorian reigns supreme."

bwahahaha, thanks for the quote. You reading this m8 and ND?

[Mr.1derful]

I never said Ronnie's back was better solely b/c of additional mass. I've always maintained that Ronnie's combination of muscular bulk, symmetry, definition, shape, taper, and fullness surpass Dorian's. While Dorian's back displayed more definition, he sacrificed muscle fullness as a result. Ronnie's back is much thicker from the rear. This is especially apparent in the back double biceps pose. Dorian's back looks flat as a pancake compared to Ronnie. Dorian has more complete development? If by "more complete," you mean small upper traps, thin lower back, ugly bacne and loose folds of skin, then I agree. Lower attaching lats? The difference is only 1 cm. By the way, you meant to say his lats originate - not insert- lower. For someone who tries to come across as intelligent, you should at least educate yourself about anatomy terminology before judging physiques.

December 2, 2008 on Ironage.us:  Shawn Perine of Flex Magazine states: "Ronnie's back eclipsed Yates' in terms of sheer size, but when it comes to density and detail, Dorian reigns supreme." - Neo, you quote this like it's a win for Ronnie?  Ronnie had a bigger back at his heaviest, big deal.  Perine's further comments firmly place a win in the back column for Yates.  My God, you are slow and I suspect a little inbred.

Troll Neo, before you split hairs with regard to the reference to "lat insertions", you should know that most all prominant bodybuilding scribes use the same terminology.  I have yet to read them stating where the lats "originate".  Another failed attempt to portray intelligence has backfired again, resulting in another self-owning for you.  How do you like them apples? 

[NeoSeminole]

Troll Neo, before you split hairs with regard to the reference to "lat insertions", you should know that most all prominant bodybuilding scribes use the same terminology.  I have yet to read them stating where the lats "originate".  Another failed attempt to potray intelligence has back fired again resulting in another self-owning for you.  How do you like them apples?

ha ha ha, you crack me up. You come here trying to instigate another Dorian vs. Ronnie debate and accuse me of trolling? You are the very definition of a troll. As for the second half of your post, elaborate how I owned myself for correcting you? Spare me your excuse that you're right b/c everyone who follows bodybuilding says "lat insertions" and I'm wrong. Ask any person who has studied medicine and they will tell you I'm right.

[Mr.1derful]

Hey inbred, this is a bodybuilding board, where the term "lat insertions" is typical to the industry.  If you want to go to a contest and say "lat originations" or something similar, be my guest, but people will catch on pretty fast that your mother is also your sister.    Being totally frank, you are honestly too stupid to respond to further. And that is saying something given the internet.

[NeoSeminole]

Hey inbred, this is a bodybuilding board, where the term "lat insertions" is typical to the industry.  If you want to go to a contest and say "lat originations" or something similar, be my guest, but people will catch on pretty fast that your mother is also your sister. Being totally frank, you are honestly too stupid to respond to further. And that is saying something given the internet.

oh hai Sucksmalemuscle

[NarcissisticDeity]

bwahahaha, thanks for the quote. You reading this m8 and ND?

You're an idiot for many reason and why? because I've said this many times , Ronnie's back may have been bigger but it was also SOFTER this is NO advantage you you dolt lol

this is the best part you're bragging about a 290 pound Ronnie having a bigger back than a 260 pound Dorian LMFAO

[NarcissisticDeity]

lame attempt at trying to pass off your opinion as fact. Dorian's back lacks the width (depending on year), symmetry, taper, and fullness of Ronnie's. You say Dorian's back lacks nothing as if there was no room for improvement, which I just demonstrated is not true.

Back , upper and lower , is sensational in EVERY respect : width , thickness and detail./b]

Peter McGough on Dorian's back 

you demonstrated your ignorance nothing more 

[NarcissisticDeity]

December 2, 2008 on Ironage.us:  Shawn Perine of Flex Magazine states: "Ronnie's back eclipsed Yates' in terms of sheer size, but when it comes to density and detail, Dorian reigns supreme." - Neo, you quote this like it's a win for Ronnie?  Ronnie had a bigger back at his heaviest, big deal.  Perine's further comments firmly place a win in the back column for Yates.  My God, you are slow and I suspect a little inbred.

Troll Neo, before you split hairs with regard to the reference to "lat insertions", you should know that most all prominant bodybuilding scribes use the same terminology.  I have yet to read them stating where the lats "originate".  Another failed attempt to portray intelligence has backfired again, resulting in another self-owning for you.  How do you like them apples? 

And we're talking about a much heavier Ronnie compared to a lighter Yates , at the same weight Dorian's back destroys Ronnie's , with better still density & detail . what advantage is a wider ' thicker ' back with less detail and soft as a babies ass? NONE