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Re: 3 Best Backs in the HISTORY OF THE SPORT
« Reply #375 on: December 02, 2008, 01:30:18 AM »
quite easy actually:

equal lats
smaller waist therefore better taper
pecs have 1000x more detail

so do arms/delt (with better shape, better vascularity, better size)

quads - total destruction - way better sweep, detail, delination etc

dorian has the better calves.

thats it

its not even close ND.

even a blind fool like yourself should be able to see this..

dorian has a better front lat spread, but only from the knees down LOL

I stopped the moment you typed equal lats , you can't be taken seriously when you type this nonsense , and I told you to use the IFBB judging criteria you just glossed right over ALL of it lol thanks for playing dummy come back when you can follow directions

muscular bulk
muscle density
muscle dryness
muscle balance
muscle proportion
posing & presentation

This is how Dorian easily beats Ronnie in this and every other pose.  ;)

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Re: 3 Best Backs in the HISTORY OF THE SPORT
« Reply #376 on: December 02, 2008, 01:32:24 AM »
Does Dorian having no arms affect the argument or not?
No doubt about it...

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Re: 3 Best Backs in the HISTORY OF THE SPORT
« Reply #377 on: December 02, 2008, 01:37:52 AM »
Does Dorian having no arms affect the argument or not?
No. Ronnie has no calves. Dorian tore his biceps - still had a better overall physique.

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Re: 3 Best Backs in the HISTORY OF THE SPORT
« Reply #378 on: December 02, 2008, 01:39:54 AM »
No. Ronnie has no calves. Dorian tore his biceps - still had a better overall physique.

Dorians arms at his prime are no match for Ronnie at his prime. Ronnie had a better physique overall.
No doubt about it...

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Re: 3 Best Backs in the HISTORY OF THE SPORT
« Reply #379 on: December 02, 2008, 03:38:23 AM »
Does Dorian having no arms affect the argument or not?

hahaha so true.

ND is fucked.

he just cant win this one: dorian's arms are so small and smooth even in 93 they look untrained compared to Ronnie's:
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Re: 3 Best Backs in the HISTORY OF THE SPORT
« Reply #380 on: December 02, 2008, 04:05:00 AM »
Note to Ronnie: in latspread you should spread your lats, not show off your arms.

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Re: 3 Best Backs in the HISTORY OF THE SPORT
« Reply #381 on: December 02, 2008, 05:43:45 AM »
Note to Ronnie: in latspread you should spread your lats, not show off your arms.

Note to dorian: thank you for spreading your lats so we didnt need to see your arms  ;)

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Re: 3 Best Backs in the HISTORY OF THE SPORT
« Reply #382 on: December 02, 2008, 07:41:34 AM »
You're an idiot for many reason and why? because I've said this many times , Ronnie's back may have been bigger but it was also SOFTER this is NO advantage you you dolt lol

ha ha ha, bullsheeeet. You claimed it was "speculation" when I said 03 Ronnie was wider. True to ND dipshit fashion, you insult me after you've been proven wrong. Keep making an ass of yourself. ;)

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Re: 3 Best Backs in the HISTORY OF THE SPORT
« Reply #383 on: December 02, 2008, 09:53:27 AM »
Bigger does not by default denote better.  For the trolls, you may want to say the words aloud in a similar manner as the "near/far" exercise that Sesame Street used to do.  Only this time, contrast "bigger" with "better".   ;)



Bigger







Better


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Re: 3 Best Backs in the HISTORY OF THE SPORT
« Reply #384 on: December 02, 2008, 10:50:22 AM »
Bigger does not by default denote better.  For the trolls, you may want to say the words aloud in a similar manner as the "near/far" exercise that Sesame Street used to do.  Only this time, contrast "bigger" with "better".   ;)






LMAO Spot on!

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Re: 3 Best Backs in the HISTORY OF THE SPORT
« Reply #385 on: December 02, 2008, 11:23:32 AM »
Bigger does not by default denote better.  For the trolls, you may want to say the words aloud in a similar manner as the "near/far" exercise that Sesame Street used to do.  Only this time, contrast "bigger" with "better".

yawn ;)



Jim Schmaltz – Flex, April 2002

"The 37-year-old Coleman has what many of the sport's analysts feel is the best back ever."

Peter McGough - Flex, December 2006

"The best back ever lacked its eye-popping detail and fullness." (in reference to Ronnie at the 06 Mr. Olympia)

1998 Mr. Olympia Contest Review by Max Muscle Sports and Fitness

"Only Milos Sarcev, in his evaluation of Mr. Olympia contenders in the last issue of Max Muscle, saw Coleman as having a good chance: "At this time, Ron has the best back in the history of the sport," said Mishko, "even better than Bannout and Haney, or Dorian. Ron's thicker, wider, more pleasing."

http://www.maxmuscle.com/index.cfm?fa=article&doc_id=22&subcat=body_building



skip to 56 sec.

"the most incredible back in bodybuilding history, I believe, right there. Dorian was noted for his back. Lee Haney for his, but this man's back is just like something out of a comic book."

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Re: 3 Best Backs in the HISTORY OF THE SPORT
« Reply #386 on: December 02, 2008, 11:27:35 AM »
Does Dorian having no arms affect the argument or not?

Again when people type ' Dorian has no arms ' they're just screaming " look everyone I'm ignorant " Dorian's forearms are among the best in the sport and the last time I checked they're part of the ARMS , Dorian's triceps are great as well and last time I checked they are part of the ARMS , it's like saying Ronnie has no LEGS because his calves are pathetic it's retarded


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Re: 3 Best Backs in the HISTORY OF THE SPORT
« Reply #387 on: December 02, 2008, 11:40:37 AM »
yawn ;)


Jim Schmaltz – Flex, April 2002

"The 37-year-old Coleman has what many of the sport's analysts feel is the best back ever."

Peter McGough - Flex, December 2006

"The best back ever lacked its eye-popping detail and fullness." (in reference to Ronnie at the 06 Mr. Olympia)

1998 Mr. Olympia Contest Review by Max Muscle Sports and Fitness

"Only Milos Sarcev, in his evaluation of Mr. Olympia contenders in the last issue of Max Muscle, saw Coleman as having a good chance: "At this time, Ron has the best back in the history of the sport," said Mishko, "even better than Bannout and Haney, or Dorian. Ron's thicker, wider, more pleasing."

http://www.maxmuscle.com/index.cfm?fa=article&doc_id=22&subcat=body_building



skip to 56 sec.

"the most incredible back in bodybuilding history, I believe, right there. Dorian was noted for his back. Lee Haney for his, but this man's back is just like something out of a comic book."


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yawn ;)

team Flex 2000 voted Dorian best back ever .  ;)

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/pro-bodybuilders-pictures/best-back-all-time-you-decide-39990-9.html  ;)

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Jim Schmaltz – Flex, April 2002

"The 37-year-old Coleman has what many of the sport's analysts feel is the best back ever."

many NOT all  ;)

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"the most incredible back in bodybuilding history, I believe, right there. Dorian was noted for his back. Lee Haney for his, but this man's back is just like something out of a comic book."

That's Mike Mattarazzo and he's very generous with his praise

Flex magazine October 2003 from Mike Matarazzo about Dorian

DESCRIBE DORIAN YATES: The ultimate warrior. A straight-up no-bulls-t bodybuilder. He backed up everything with his physique. He silenced his critics with action. He bowed out at the end of his career with grace and style. He may go down in history as the greatest bodybuilder of all time.


Flex magazine Step 1996 Mike Mattarzo on Dorian Yates


" the only Mr Olympia who can't lose to anyone but himself . he is truly unbeatable. "




Ronnie Coleman on Dorian Yates

DESCRIBE DORIAN YATES: A close friend. Dorian is very intelligent, a great Mr. Olympia. He had the best side-chest pose and the thickest freakiest back I have ever seen.





Samir Bannout who had one of the best backs mind you on Cutler 2001

Jay Cutler blows the other bodybuilders away with the crisp detail of his muscularity from top to bottom. He has superior calves, hamstrings and glutes. His back is detailed and big, but it does not match up well against Ronnie, who has the second-best back in the history of bodybuilding behind the great Dorian Yates

Ronnie has the second best back behind the great Dorian Yates




Ellington Darden, Ph.D. " best back - Dorian Yates "





FROM MARKUS RUHL

October 2000, FLEX page 166   (notice how it is post 1999)


"DORIAN YATES HAD THE BEST BACK IN THE HISTORY OF BODYBUILDING.  HIS LAT SPREAD WAS UNBELIEVABLE. HIS SIZE, MASS, AND CONDITIONING WERE PERFECT,"




it works both ways Neo


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Re: 3 Best Backs in the HISTORY OF THE SPORT
« Reply #388 on: December 02, 2008, 11:41:55 AM »
ha ha ha, bullsheeeet. You claimed it was "speculation" when I said 03 Ronnie was wider. True to ND dipshit fashion, you insult me after you've been proven wrong. Keep making an ass of yourself. ;)

You haven't proven me wrong in the least YOU made a claim he was wider where is the proof?  ???

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Re: 3 Best Backs in the HISTORY OF THE SPORT
« Reply #389 on: December 02, 2008, 11:42:58 AM »
Bigger does not by default denote better.  For the trolls, you may want to say the words aloud in a similar manner as the "near/far" exercise that Sesame Street used to do.  Only this time, contrast "bigger" with "better".   ;)



Bigger




lmfao




Better



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Re: 3 Best Backs in the HISTORY OF THE SPORT
« Reply #390 on: December 02, 2008, 11:43:06 AM »




That back's holding water.  OH, YEAAHH!


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Re: 3 Best Backs in the HISTORY OF THE SPORT
« Reply #391 on: December 02, 2008, 11:44:42 AM »
yates was the man, check out this video it's great just like the great Dorian
 8)



 


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Re: 3 Best Backs in the HISTORY OF THE SPORT
« Reply #392 on: December 02, 2008, 11:47:46 AM »
;) ;) ;)

The 20 best backs of all time - Flex, March 2008

20. albert beckles
19. melvin anthony
18. thierry pastel
17. tony pearson
16. sergio oliva
15. orville burke
14. art atwood
13. flex wheeler
12. robby robinson
11. mohamed benaziza
10. victor martinez
9. michael francois
8. samir bannout
7. jean-pierre fux
6. jay cutler
5. franco columbu
4. lee haney
3. joel stubbs
2. dorian yates
1. ronnie coleman

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Re: 3 Best Backs in the HISTORY OF THE SPORT
« Reply #393 on: December 02, 2008, 11:49:11 AM »
;) ;) ;)

The 20 best backs of all time - Flex, March 2008

20. albert beckles
19. melvin anthony
18. thierry pastel
17. tony pearson
16. sergio oliva
15. orville burke
14. art atwood
13. flex wheeler
12. robby robinson
11. mohamed benaziza
10. victor martinez
9. michael francois
8. samir bannout
7. jean-pierre fux
6. jay cutler
5. franco columbu
4. lee haney
3. joel stubbs
2. dorian yates
1. ronnie coleman

who cares about flex magazine.....honestly

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Re: 3 Best Backs in the HISTORY OF THE SPORT
« Reply #394 on: December 02, 2008, 11:50:49 AM »
show me a back shot of coleman that beats this  ::)


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Re: 3 Best Backs in the HISTORY OF THE SPORT
« Reply #395 on: December 02, 2008, 11:57:44 AM »
;) ;) ;)

The 20 best backs of all time - Flex, March 2008

20. albert beckles
19. melvin anthony
18. thierry pastel
17. tony pearson
16. sergio oliva
15. orville burke
14. art atwood
13. flex wheeler
12. robby robinson
11. mohamed benaziza
10. victor martinez
9. michael francois
8. samir bannout
7. jean-pierre fux
6. jay cutler
5. franco columbu
4. lee haney
3. joel stubbs
2. dorian yates
1. ronnie coleman

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/pro-bodybuilders-pictures/best-back-all-time-you-decide-39990-9.html  ;)


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Re: 3 Best Backs in the HISTORY OF THE SPORT
« Reply #396 on: December 02, 2008, 12:00:04 PM »




That back's holding water.  OH, YEAAHH!



This is really going to piss boy-Neo off

Quote Peter McGough Flex Magazine Jan 2001

RONNIE COLEMAN : ( 264lbs As big as a house , but holding water. In '98 , he was shredded and bone dry at 250 pounds. Last year ( 1999 ) he was 257 pounds but NOT as sharp as '98. This year ( 2000 ) at 264 pounds , he's not as sharp as 99 , which would seem to say that Ronnie is better at a lighter weight .


The video is from the 2000 Mr Olympia , this quote is from the 2000 Mr Olympia LMFAO you're spot-on when you say he's holding water , guess where he's holding that water? LMFAO


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Re: 3 Best Backs in the HISTORY OF THE SPORT
« Reply #397 on: December 02, 2008, 12:02:02 PM »
Team Flex 2000 voted Dorian best back ever.

oh noes! I'm sure I could find a quote from 83 saying Samir Bannout had the best back of all-time. ::)

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many NOT all

not everyone believes the Earth is round. You're point?

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That's Mike Mattarazzo and he's very generous with his praise

Flex magazine October 2003 from Mike Matarazzo about Dorian

DESCRIBE DORIAN YATES: The ultimate warrior. A straight-up no-bulls-t bodybuilder. He backed up everything with his physique. He silenced his critics with action. He bowed out at the end of his career with grace and style. He may go down in history as the greatest bodybuilder of all time.

;)

Mike Matarazzo – Flex, January 1999

"I think this creature from another planet, Ronnie Coleman, is going to be number one for a while. I think that, in the shape he was in, he would have beaten Dorian Yates. Ronnie has every single attribute it takes to be the greatest bodybuilder who ever lived. "

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Flex magazine Step 1996 Mike Mattarzo on Dorian Yates

"the only Mr Olympia who can't lose to anyone but himself . he is truly unbeatable."

oh no! Another quote from before Ronnie's peak. ::)

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Ronnie Coleman on Dorian Yates

DESCRIBE DORIAN YATES: A close friend. Dorian is very intelligent, a great Mr. Olympia. He had the best side-chest pose and the thickest freakiest back I have ever seen.

do you believe everything Ronnie says? ;)

Ronnie Coleman Interview by John Stamatopoulos

John: "Let's say that it would be possible to have a bodybuilding contest where the only competitors would be you... and Dorian Yates, and all of you in their prime condition. Who do you believe would win?"

Ronnie: "Come on now, this is the age of Ronnie Coleman who else would win."

http://creditplushealth.org/health%20education%20content/ronnie%20coleman%20beating%20arnold.htm

Ronnie also says he should have beaten Jay in 06 (which he lost).

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Samir Bannout who had one of the best backs mind you on Cutler 2001

Jay Cutler blows the other bodybuilders away with the crisp detail of his muscularity from top to bottom. He has superior calves, hamstrings and glutes. His back is detailed and big, but it does not match up well against Ronnie, who has the second-best back in the history of bodybuilding behind the great Dorian Yates

Ronnie has the second best back behind the great Dorian Yates

you mean the same senile old man who couldn't figure out how to press a button during the challenge round disaster in 05?

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Ellington Darden, Ph.D. " best back - Dorian Yates "

source? I don't know who this guy is.

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FROM MARKUS RUHL

October 2000, FLEX page 166   (notice how it is post 1999)

"DORIAN YATES HAD THE BEST BACK IN THE HISTORY OF BODYBUILDING.  HIS LAT SPREAD WAS UNBELIEVABLE. HIS SIZE, MASS, AND CONDITIONING WERE PERFECT,"

whoop-tee-doo! Last time I checked, Markus Ruhl wasn't paid to write contest reviews and judge physiques for the largest circulating bodybuilding magazines in the world.

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it works both ways Neo

not really. I posted quotes from the most respected names in bodybuilding: Peter McGough, Jim Schmaltz, Milos Sarcev, and Team Flex. What do you have? A quote from Markus Ruhl? LOLOL ::)

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Re: 3 Best Backs in the HISTORY OF THE SPORT
« Reply #398 on: December 02, 2008, 12:04:34 PM »
show me a back shot of coleman that beats this


I'll let you know when I come across a photoshopped pic of Ronnie's back. ;)

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Re: 3 Best Backs in the HISTORY OF THE SPORT
« Reply #399 on: December 02, 2008, 12:08:01 PM »
You haven't proven me wrong in the least YOU made a claim he was wider where is the proof?

right here. Now apologize, b*tch. ;)

1998 Mr. Olympia Contest Review by Max Muscle Sports and Fitness

"Only Milos Sarcev, in his evaluation of Mr. Olympia contenders in the last issue of Max Muscle, saw Coleman as having a good chance: "At this time, Ron has the best back in the history of the sport," said Mishko, "even better than Bannout and Haney, or Dorian. Ron's thicker, wider, more pleasing."

http://www.maxmuscle.com/index.cfm?fa=article&doc_id=22&subcat=body_building

Shawn Perine - Ironage.us (December 2, 2008)

"Ronnie's back eclipsed Yates' in terms of sheer size, but when it comes to density and detail, Dorian reigns supreme."