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Re: 3 Best Backs in the HISTORY OF THE SPORT
« Reply #400 on: December 02, 2008, 12:26:56 PM »
oh noes! I'm sure I could find a quote from 83 saying Samir Bannout had the best back of all-time. ::)

not everyone believes the Earth is round. You're point?

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Mike Matarazzo – Flex, January 1999

"I think this creature from another planet, Ronnie Coleman, is going to be number one for a while. I think that, in the shape he was in, he would have beaten Dorian Yates. Ronnie has every single attribute it takes to be the greatest bodybuilder who ever lived. "

oh no! Another quote from before Ronnie's peak. ::)

do you believe everything Ronnie says? ;)

Ronnie Coleman Interview by John Stamatopoulos

John: "Let's say that it would be possible to have a bodybuilding contest where the only competitors would be you... and Dorian Yates, and all of you in their prime condition. Who do you believe would win?"

Ronnie: "Come on now, this is the age of Ronnie Coleman who else would win."

http://creditplushealth.org/health%20education%20content/ronnie%20coleman%20beating%20arnold.htm

Ronnie also says he should have beaten Jay in 06 (which he lost).

you mean the same senile old man who couldn't figure out how to press a button during the challenge round disaster in 05?

source? I don't know who this guy is.

whoop-tee-doo! Last time I checked, Markus Ruhl wasn't paid to write contest reviews and judge physiques for the largest circulating bodybuilding magazines in the world.

not really. I posted quotes from the most respected names in bodybuilding: Peter McGough, Jim Schmaltz, Milos Sarcev, and Team Flex. What do you have? A quote from Markus Ruhl? LOLOL ::)


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oh noes! I'm sure I could find a quote from 83 saying Samir Bannout had the best back of all-time. ::)

this coming from a person who keeps posting a quote from McGough that's been amended  ;) and how did Ronnie's back improve by 2000? did it get harder? NO didn't his lats suddenly get lower? did his x-mass three get sharper? NO his back got softer and wider , big deal that's not improvement and did you miss the many quotes I posted about how Dorian had the best back and all of these were POST retirement lol I'm sure you missed those

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not everyone believes the Earth is round. You're point?
oh boy what a piss poor analogy , one is subjective there is empirical evidence that proves the Earth is round , not everyone shares the view Ronnie's back is better and if you claim your right solely based on the numbers then you're guilty of more faulty logic , argument ad populum  ;)

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in the same vain he says Dorian may go down as the greatest bodybuilder who ever lived and this was 2003  ;) again Mike is very generous with his praise

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oh no! Another quote from before Ronnie's peak. ::)

Which has NOTHING to do with the point I was making , the point was Mike is very generous with his praise


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do you believe everything Ronnie says? ;)


more clear deception on your part omitting a very key part where he says what? but I couldn't have beat them in their hey days.


I don't agree with everything Ronnie says , however on the topic of back it coincides with reality Dorian has arguably the best back ever , so his opinion matters on the topic especially considered has having one of the best backs ever , as does Samir Bannout

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Ronnie also says he should have beaten Jay in 06 (which he lost).

this doesn't coincide with reality , he was clearly off , and you constantly post quotes from Flex Wheeler as proof , yet this is the same guy who says Ronnie was in first place after the pre-judging in 2007 lol that makes you a hypocrite

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you mean the same senile old man who couldn't figure out how to press a button during the challenge round disaster in 05?

This has what to do with backs? he's on the list , he knows a great back and he says Dorian

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source? I don't know who this guy is.

Google him interesting guy

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whoop-tee-doo! Last time I checked, Markus Ruhl wasn't paid to write contest reviews and judge physiques for the largest circulating bodybuilding magazines in the world.

Flex magazine isn't comprised of IFBB judges so Rhul's opinion is as good as Team Flex , and Flex Wheeler who you love to cling to , and Ronnie Coleman etc , my point being the only real ones that matter are IFBB judges

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not really. I posted quotes from the most respected names in bodybuilding: Peter McGough, Jim Schmaltz, Milos Sarcev, and Team Flex. What do you have? A quote from Markus Ruhl? LOLOL ::)

Ronnie Coleman is not respected , neither is Samir Bannout  ::) this coming from the guy who posts quotes from Greg Valentino and Ryan Mackie LMFAO get real and you omit the parts of the quotes that favor Dorian lol


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Re: 3 Best Backs in the HISTORY OF THE SPORT
« Reply #401 on: December 02, 2008, 12:29:59 PM »
show me a back shot of coleman that beats this  ::)



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You're hurting ND's case

He's really giving it a shot

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Re: 3 Best Backs in the HISTORY OF THE SPORT
« Reply #402 on: December 02, 2008, 12:32:02 PM »
right here. Now apologize, b*tch. ;)

1998 Mr. Olympia Contest Review by Max Muscle Sports and Fitness

"Only Milos Sarcev, in his evaluation of Mr. Olympia contenders in the last issue of Max Muscle, saw Coleman as having a good chance: "At this time, Ron has the best back in the history of the sport," said Mishko, "even better than Bannout and Haney, or Dorian. Ron's thicker, wider, more pleasing."

http://www.maxmuscle.com/index.cfm?fa=article&doc_id=22&subcat=body_building

Shawn Perine - Ironage.us (December 2, 2008)

"Ronnie's back eclipsed Yates' in terms of sheer size, but when it comes to density and detail, Dorian reigns supreme."

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1998 Mr. Olympia Contest Review by Max Muscle Sports and Fitness

"Only Milos Sarcev, in his evaluation of Mr. Olympia contenders in the last issue of Max Muscle, saw Coleman as having a good chance: "At this time, Ron has the best back in the history of the sport," said Mishko, "even better than Bannout and Haney, or Dorian. Ron's thicker, wider, more pleasing."

You honestly think Ronnie at 247 pounds at the 1998 Mr Olympia has a wider thicker back than Dorian Yates at 257lbs , 260 lbs or 269 lbs? if you say yes you're as delusional as Milos is , 2003 I'll entertain he has a wider back 1998 get the fuck out of here

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Shawn Perine - Ironage.us (December 2, 2008)

"Ronnie's back eclipsed Yates' in terms of sheer size, but when it comes to density and detail, Dorian reigns supreme."

Where does it say width? yeah I thought so , see backfire and see fail  ;)


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Re: 3 Best Backs in the HISTORY OF THE SPORT
« Reply #403 on: December 02, 2008, 12:34:13 PM »
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You're hurting ND's case

He's really giving it a shot

he's not hurting my case , this is real and doesn't need it and the point still stands Dorian's back has everything Ronnie's has and then some

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Re: 3 Best Backs in the HISTORY OF THE SPORT
« Reply #404 on: December 02, 2008, 12:37:13 PM »
  Ha ha ha...oh man. So according to SemenHole, some people not sharing a common opinion is akin to some people denying a fact that has been proven beyond any doubt? Someone should send Galilleo a memo that his life work was simply an opinion of his... :D This is what we're up against. :-\

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Re: 3 Best Backs in the HISTORY OF THE SPORT
« Reply #405 on: December 02, 2008, 12:39:01 PM »
 Ha ha ha...oh man. So according to SemenHole, some people not sharing a common opinion is akin to some people denying a fact that has been proven beyond any doubt? Someone should send Galilleo a memo that his life work was simply an opinion of his... :D This is what we're up against. :-\

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Re: 3 Best Backs in the HISTORY OF THE SPORT
« Reply #406 on: December 02, 2008, 12:49:05 PM »
it's so fun watching the Dorian nuthuggers meltdown. Now they're reduced to talking amongst themselves b/c nobody else will listen to their nonsense. ha ha ha ;D

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Re: 3 Best Backs in the HISTORY OF THE SPORT
« Reply #407 on: December 02, 2008, 12:56:10 PM »
he's not hurting my case , this is real and doesn't need it and the point still stands Dorian's back has everything Ronnie's has and then some
I never seen the second pic scan10001013 or what ever its called...
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Re: 3 Best Backs in the HISTORY OF THE SPORT
« Reply #408 on: December 02, 2008, 01:02:27 PM »
I never seen the second pic scan10001013 or what ever its called...
That's Dorian showing Debbie whos boss.

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Re: 3 Best Backs in the HISTORY OF THE SPORT
« Reply #409 on: December 02, 2008, 01:09:57 PM »
I never seen the second pic scan10001013 or what ever its called...

1994 Mr Olympia in the hotel room

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Re: 3 Best Backs in the HISTORY OF THE SPORT
« Reply #410 on: December 02, 2008, 01:45:48 PM »
The Greatest! :o

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Re: 3 Best Backs in the HISTORY OF THE SPORT
« Reply #411 on: December 02, 2008, 01:48:10 PM »

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Re: 3 Best Backs in the HISTORY OF THE SPORT
« Reply #412 on: December 02, 2008, 01:51:43 PM »
 ;)

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Re: 3 Best Backs in the HISTORY OF THE SPORT
« Reply #413 on: December 02, 2008, 01:52:31 PM »
Leave it to Yates to raise the bar again and again!  Damn! :o  ND, somewhere the trolls heads are exploding! lol

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Re: 3 Best Backs in the HISTORY OF THE SPORT
« Reply #414 on: December 02, 2008, 02:47:08 PM »
1994 Mr Olympia in the hotel room

wtf is goin on in that top pic

geez its only 94' and the man's already got a gut

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Re: 3 Best Backs in the HISTORY OF THE SPORT
« Reply #415 on: December 02, 2008, 03:35:47 PM »
this coming from a person who keeps posting a quote from McGough that's been amended

this coming from a hypocrite who used to quote Flex as the Bible of bodybuilding when it suited him and now ignores any quotes from Flex that say Ronnie is better. ;)

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and how did Ronnie's back improve by 2000? did it get harder? NO didn't his lats suddenly get lower? did his x-mass three get sharper? NO his back got softer and wider , big deal that's not improvement and did you miss the many quotes I posted about how Dorian had the best back and all of these were POST retirement lol I'm sure you missed those

are you really that stupid? Ronnie's back became thicker, wider, and more defined (depending on year).

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oh boy what a piss poor analogy , one is subjective there is empirical evidence that proves the Earth is round , not everyone shares the view Ronnie's back is better and if you claim your right solely based on the numbers then you're guilty of more faulty logic , argument ad populum

the difference between your quotes and mine is that I quoted bodybuilding experts such as Peter McGough, Team Flex, and Milos Sarcev. All you have to work with is Markus Ruhl. I'm not guilty of ad populum b/c I never claimed I was right due to numbers. The credibility of my sources outweigh yours. It just so happens that I also have more quotes than you.

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in the same vain he says Dorian may go down as the greatest bodybuilder who ever lived and this was 2003 again Mike is very generous with his praise

what does this have to do with anything? Nowhere does he say Dorian has the greatest physique of all-time.

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Which has NOTHING to do with the point I was making , the point was Mike is very generous with his praise

who gives a shit? He explicitly said Ronnie would beat Dorian. That's all that matters.

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Re: 3 Best Backs in the HISTORY OF THE SPORT
« Reply #416 on: December 02, 2008, 04:25:54 PM »





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Re: 3 Best Backs in the HISTORY OF THE SPORT
« Reply #417 on: December 02, 2008, 04:38:15 PM »
wtf is goin on in that top pic

geez its only 94' and the man's already got a gut

He had a gut in 93 old news

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Re: 3 Best Backs in the HISTORY OF THE SPORT
« Reply #418 on: December 02, 2008, 04:56:53 PM »
this coming from a hypocrite who used to quote Flex as the Bible of bodybuilding when it suited him and now ignores any quotes from Flex that say Ronnie is better. ;)

are you really that stupid? Ronnie's back became thicker, wider, and more defined (depending on year).

the difference between your quotes and mine is that I quoted bodybuilding experts such as Peter McGough, Team Flex, and Milos Sarcev. All you have to work with is Markus Ruhl. I'm not guilty of ad populum b/c I never claimed I was right due to numbers. The credibility of my sources outweigh yours. It just so happens that I also have more quotes than you.

what does this have to do with anything? Nowhere does he say Dorian has the greatest physique of all-time.

who gives a shit? He explicitly said Ronnie would beat Dorian. That's all that matters.

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this coming from a hypocrite who used to quote Flex as the Bible of bodybuilding when it suited him and now ignores any quotes from Flex that say Ronnie is better. ;)

I never ignored any quotes that a another one of your many lies , every quote you ever posted I addressed period. I don't need to run especially when the topic is subjective .

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are you really that stupid? Ronnie's back became thicker, wider, and more defined (depending on year).

thicker & wider YES more defined NO sorry sport that's simply not true in fact if you missed the McGough quote from 2000 he states the obvious Ronnie's hardness and dryness suffer the heavier he became which would indicate he's better at a lighter weight , this was Ronnie at 264 pounds never mind the 287 pound Ronnie , Ronnie's best overall package for his back was probably 1998/2001 when he was at his hardest & driest

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the difference between your quotes and mine is that I quoted bodybuilding experts such as Peter McGough, Team Flex, and Milos Sarcev. All you have to work with is Markus Ruhl. I'm not guilty of ad populum b/c I never claimed I was right due to numbers. The credibility of my sources outweigh yours. It just so happens that I also have more quotes than you.

You dismissed McGough as flat out wrong on the subject of competitive bodybuilding lol now YOU need him he's an expert lol you played yourself Neo lol and NO I'm working with more than Rhul . Ronnie himself who is an expert on backs , Samir he's also an expert , plus Rhul , plus Team Flex , from 2000 and this is from the article you're clinging to

For much of the '90s, there was little dispute that Yates had the best back ever, and there are many who contend so today.

so I hate to break it to you team Flex isn't the end all be all like you'd had hoped , also did you Google Ellington Darden? and how about the poll from EliteFitness ? http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/pro-bodybuilders-pictures/best-back-all-time-you-decide-39990-9.html I have much more than you play it off as , what matters above at his Ronnie's confession lol

and you never answered the question , I don't care what Milos says you and him are fucking high if you think he has a thicker & wider back at 247 pounds in 1998 than Dorian from 1993/1995/1997 even NO WAY IN HELL , 2003 perhaps 1998 get the fuck out of here


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what does this have to do with anything? Nowhere does he say Dorian has the greatest physique of all-time.

fuck me your missing the point , it doesn't matter if he says Dorian has the greatest of all-time , what matters is he's very generous with his praise and how could he possibly go down as the greatest bodybuilder of all-time without having the greatest physique? stop playing stupid

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who gives a shit? He explicitly said Ronnie would beat Dorian. That's all that matters.

o.k he says Ronnie would beat Dorian what does that mean? it's true? Lee Priest says Dorian would easily beat Ronnie is this a fact? NO nice try


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Re: 3 Best Backs in the HISTORY OF THE SPORT
« Reply #419 on: December 02, 2008, 06:14:40 PM »
1994 Mr Olympia in the hotel room

ND would love to have been in that room. :-*

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Re: 3 Best Backs in the HISTORY OF THE SPORT
« Reply #420 on: December 02, 2008, 06:18:35 PM »
ND would love to have been in that room. :-*

This coming from the guy who searched the internet for pictures of mens testes , saved it to his hardrive and then posted it , who brags about the gorgeous transexuals he had chances with lol


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Re: 3 Best Backs in the HISTORY OF THE SPORT
« Reply #421 on: December 02, 2008, 06:47:52 PM »
[ Q ] I would now like to discuss the specific exercises you used while training for the Mr. Olympia. You were known as having the thickest best proportioned back of your time, possible of all time. What exercises gave you most of your back size and what approach did you use?

people still feel Dorian's back is the best of all-time lol

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Re: 3 Best Backs in the HISTORY OF THE SPORT
« Reply #422 on: December 02, 2008, 06:48:37 PM »
he's not hurting my case , this is real and doesn't need it and the point still stands Dorian's back has everything Ronnie's has and then some

then why does Ronnie crush it using your beloved pic?

 ::) ::) ::)
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Re: 3 Best Backs in the HISTORY OF THE SPORT
« Reply #423 on: December 02, 2008, 06:55:30 PM »
then why does Ronnie crush it using your beloved pic?

 ::) ::) ::)

the thing you will NEVER be able to get around is the fact that Ronnie will NEVER be as hard or as dry as Dorian , so posting pics of him offseason looking soft compared to Yates proves zero

Dorian's back is still better and not soft  ;)

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Re: 3 Best Backs in the HISTORY OF THE SPORT
« Reply #424 on: December 02, 2008, 06:57:55 PM »
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