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THE ADONIS DIET = WEIGHT WATCHERS
« on: November 20, 2008, 09:55:38 PM »
I finally figured it out!  I knew TA's diet sounded like something I've heard of before; it finally hit me.  WEIGHT WATCHERS!  After hearing my mother in law go over every detail of WW's "point system" for the past couple of years, I made the correlation. 

How many "points" do you consume in a day, TA? 


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Re: THE ADONIS DIET = WEIGHT WATCHERS
« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2008, 09:56:57 PM »
Hahhahahahahahaha

so Adonis wants to be skinny, but cant live without his McDonalds Ice Cream cone?  (its only 2 points!!!)

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Re: THE ADONIS DIET = WEIGHT WATCHERS
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2008, 09:59:31 PM »
Hahhahahahahahaha

so Adonis wants to be skinny, but cant live without his McDonalds Ice Cream cone?  (its only 2 points!!!)

LOL!  I know all about the McDonalds cones only being 2 points! 

Come on TA; admit your dietary principles are nothing but a WEIGHT WATCHERS rip!

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Re: THE ADONIS DIET = WEIGHT WATCHERS
« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2008, 10:02:12 PM »
I'll give him this, he looks good for a fat chick.  :-*

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Re: THE ADONIS DIET = WEIGHT WATCHERS
« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2008, 10:04:37 PM »
I finally figured it out!  I knew TA's diet sounded like something I've heard of before; it finally hit me.  WEIGHT WATCHERS!  After hearing my mother in law go over every detail of WW's "point system" for the past couple of years, I made the correlation. 

How many "points" do you consume in a day, TA? 



if you break it down far enough, EVERY diet is a weight watchers diet. their basic premise is calories out(metabolism)>calories in.

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Re: THE ADONIS DIET = WEIGHT WATCHERS
« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2008, 10:06:36 PM »
I finally figured it out!  I knew TA's diet sounded like something I've heard of before; it finally hit me.  WEIGHT WATCHERS!  After hearing my mother in law go over every detail of WW's "point system" for the past couple of years, I made the correlation. 

How many "points" do you consume in a day, TA? 


What in the world are points?  ???

I did see a study where weight watchers won hands down in the battle of who has the best diet. Low-Carb diets faring the worst for long term.


Study Finds Weight Watchers Tops For Long-Term Weight Loss

May 11, 2005
Despite the high profile success of many low-carb dieters, a leading consumer magazine says Weight Watchers, with its varied menus and weekly support meetings, provides the best chance to lose weight and keep it off. Consumer Reports made that assessment after analyzing a number of diets and diet products.

Weight Watchers establishes a "point" system for foods, assigning dieters a specific budget of points for their daily food consumption. Though designed to promote balanced nutrition, it also gives the dieter some flexibility when choosing what to eat.

Those on the diet are encouraged to attend weekly meetings, where their progress is monitored and their morale gets a boost, if needed. Consumer Reports editors said those on the diet were more likely than those on other plans to still be on track after a year or more.

Consumer Reports also gave high marks to Slim-Fast products, saying they were both easy to prepare and provided a healthy nutrition balance. Slim-Fast produces milk shakes that are consumed in place of a meal, and a number of healthy snacks. It ranked actually outranked Weight Watchers in the category of weight loss. And, like Weight Watchers, those using it tend to stick with it.

So, where do all the low-carb diets rate in the rankings? The Atkins Diet, perhaps the best-known low carb diet, scored high for short-term weight loss, but near the bottom in terms of long term success. It also rated poorly on overall nutrition.

The Atkins Diet restricts consumption of carbohydrates, but allows dieters to consumer large amounts of fat and protein.

From the beginning many physicians criticized the Atkins Diet as unhealthy, and Consumer Reports concurs. It says Atkins allows for too much fat and restricts too many fruits, which are nutritious, but also high in carbohydrates.

The diet rankings are in the June issue of Consumer Reports.



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Re: THE ADONIS DIET = WEIGHT WATCHERS
« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2008, 10:06:59 PM »
if you break it down far enough, EVERY diet is a weight watchers diet. their basic premise is calories out(metabolism)>calories in.

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Of course!  Diet = calorie restriction.  

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Re: THE ADONIS DIET = WEIGHT WATCHERS
« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2008, 10:07:17 PM »
if you break it down far enough, EVERY diet is a weight watchers diet. their basic premise is calories out(metabolism)>calories in.

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I see the point you're making, but the basic premise of WW is helping people loose weight without giving up their favorite foods.

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« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2008, 10:08:03 PM »
What in the world are points?  ???

I did see a study where weight watchers won hands down in the battle of who has the best diet. Low-Carb diets faring the worst for long term.


Study Finds Weight Watchers Tops For Long-Term Weight Loss

May 11, 2005
Despite the high profile success of many low-carb dieters, a leading consumer magazine says Weight Watchers, with its varied menus and weekly support meetings, provides the best chance to lose weight and keep it off. Consumer Reports made that assessment after analyzing a number of diets and diet products.

Weight Watchers establishes a "point" system for foods, assigning dieters a specific budget of points for their daily food consumption. Though designed to promote balanced nutrition, it also gives the dieter some flexibility when choosing what to eat.

Those on the diet are encouraged to attend weekly meetings, where their progress is monitored and their morale gets a boost, if needed. Consumer Reports editors said those on the diet were more likely than those on other plans to still be on track after a year or more.

Consumer Reports also gave high marks to Slim-Fast products, saying they were both easy to prepare and provided a healthy nutrition balance. Slim-Fast produces milk shakes that are consumed in place of a meal, and a number of healthy snacks. It ranked actually outranked Weight Watchers in the category of weight loss. And, like Weight Watchers, those using it tend to stick with it.



So, where do all the low-carb diets rate in the rankings? The Atkins Diet, perhaps the best-known low carb diet, scored high for short-term weight loss, but near the bottom in terms of long term success. It also rated poorly on overall nutrition.

The Atkins Diet restricts consumption of carbohydrates, but allows dieters to consumer large amounts of fat and protein.

From the beginning many physicians criticized the Atkins Diet as unhealthy, and Consumer Reports concurs. It says Atkins allows for too much fat and restricts too many fruits, which are nutritious, but also high in carbohydrates.

The diet rankings are in the June issue of Consumer Reports.





Dude ur fvking annoying with the google shit.

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Re: THE ADONIS DIET = WEIGHT WATCHERS
« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2008, 10:09:55 PM »
Here is another.

UMass Medical School study identifies the best weight-loss plans for heart health
Research finds that some popular weight- loss plans outperform others in reducing the risk of cardiovascular disease

Over the past three decades, the rising obesity epidemic has been accompanied by a proliferation of weight-loss plans. However, as a new study by researchers from the University of Massachusetts Medical School (UMMS) reveals, these weight-loss plans vary significantly in their ability to positively affect heart health.

In “A Dietary Quality Comparison of Popular Weight-Loss Plans,” published in the October issue of the Journal of the American Dietetic Association, several weight-loss plans significantly outperformed others in their ability to reduce the risk of cardiovascular disease. Specifically, the investigators found that the Ornish, Weight Watchers High Carbohydrate and New Glucose Revolution plans scored highest when measured by the Alternate Healthy Eating Index (AHEI). Proven to be a strong predictor of cardiovascular disease, the AHEI is a measure that isolates dietary components that are most strongly linked to cardiovascular disease risk reduction.

“Obviously, obesity is associated with an increased risk for cardiovascular disease,” said UMMS Assistant Professor of Medicine Yunsheng Ma, PhD, MPH, one of the study’s primary authors. “Optimal weight-loss plans should facilitate both weight loss and chronic disease prevention, specifically cardiovascular risk reduction.”

Choosing weight-loss plans based on their status on The New York Times bestseller list during the past five years, Dr. Ma and colleagues evaluated the dietary quality of the New Glucose Revolution, Weight Watchers High Carbohydrate and Weight Watchers High Protein, Atkins 100- and 45-gram Carbohydrate, South Beach Phase 2 and Phase 3, The Zone, Ornish and the 2005 U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) Food Guide Pyramid plans. Weight Watchers and the 2005 USDA Food Guide Pyramid plan were included because they are the largest commercial weight loss plan and the current government recommendation, respectively. Elements used to determine dietary quality included ratio of white to red meat, ratio of polyunsaturated fat to saturated fat, and quantities of fruit, vegetables, nuts, legumes, cereal fiber and trans fats, all of which are known to affect cardiovascular health.

Of a maximum 70 points, the AHEI scores from highest to lowest were: Ornish (64.6); Weight Watchers High Carbohydrate (57.4); New Glucose Revolution (57.2); South Beach/Phase 2 (50.7); Zone (49.8); 2005 USDA Food Guide Pyramid (48.7); Weight Watchers High Protein (47.3); Atkins/100 g Carb (46); South Beach/Phase 3 (45.6) and Atkins/45g Carb (42.3). According to study co-author and UMass Memorial Medical Center registered dietitian Barbara Olendzki, RD, MPH, an instructor in medicine at UMMS, “The highest performing plans—Ornish, Weight Watchers High Carb and the New Glucose Revolution—fared well due to an emphasis on fruits and vegetables, higher whole grain composition and lower trans fats.”

“One of the unexpected findings is that the 2005 USDA Food Guide Pyramid, the current government recommendation, fared significantly worse than the New Glucose Revolution, Weight Watchers High Carbohydrate and Ornish plans,” said Ma. “The USDA dietary guidelines were originally devised to prevent nutrient deficiencies and it's clear that we need to modify or rebuild the pyramid to look into cardiovascular disease prevention, as it is the leading cause of death and disability for Americans. Americans deserve a better dietary guideline and recommendation”.

“Patients can lose weight with most dietary plans in the short term, but whether the plan they choose maximizes cardiovascular risk reduction over the long term should also be a consideration for patients and health care providers,” concluded study co-author Sherry Pagoto, PhD, UMMS assistant professor of medicine and a clinical psychologist at the UMass Memorial Weight Center.

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This research was supported by an internal grant from the Diabetes Endocrinology Research Center at UMMS and the National Heart, Lung and Blood Institute.

The University of Massachusetts Medical School, one of the fastest growing academic health centers in the country, has built a reputation as a world-class research institution, consistently producing noteworthy advances in clinical and basic research. The Medical School attracts more than $174 million in research funding annually, 80 percent of which comes from federal funding sources. UMMS is the academic partner of UMass Memorial Health Care, the largest health care provider in Central Massachusetts. For more information, visit www.umassmed.edu.

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Re: THE ADONIS DIET = WEIGHT WATCHERS
« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2008, 10:11:08 PM »
I see the point you're making, but the basic premise of WW is helping people loose weight without giving up their favorite foods.


...and this is why my mother in law cannot lose any more weight!  She's lost a lot of weight but has hit a plateau because she won't give up some of her foods or increase her exercise level.  The point system does not account for caloric quality or proper appropriation of protein/fat/carbs.

Bottom line - the COMPOSITION and QUALITY of food counts for something.

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« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2008, 10:12:13 PM »
I see the point you're making, but the basic premise of WW is helping people loose weight without giving up their favorite foods.


Very true. I can tell you right now that portion control goes a long way in restricting calories. It is what i am doing right now in preparation for GB IV.

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Re: THE ADONIS DIET = WEIGHT WATCHERS
« Reply #12 on: November 20, 2008, 10:57:50 PM »
I see the point you're making, but the basic premise of WW is helping people loose weight without giving up their favorite foods.


Can I eat Key Lime Pie

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Re: THE ADONIS DIET = WEIGHT WATCHERS
« Reply #13 on: November 20, 2008, 11:05:38 PM »
I'll give him this, he looks good for a fat chick.  :-*


That sounded kinda gay.  ;D